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I want France and the Netherlands to be able to 'shrink' the HRE while holding its provinces, like before. That doesn't happen any longer...
G-Klav said:
Johan had to remove that in order to be able to make the HRE softcoded. It's too bad, but an acceptable sacrifice imo.
Hive said:What exactly needs to be changed?
I don't know, that's why I started the thread!
Does this mean that Austria as Emperor (for example) will be able to walk through French provinces via HRE ability?Hive said:
Maybe then make countries, not provinces HRE?
minusa said:
Yes, I assume they can. But only the provinces that are a part of the HRE, not all of France.
My two cents (I hope it's not unlikely to happen) :
1) have country information (in country.csv for start and in savefile (*) ) : HRE=0 to n
0 = not part of HRE
n = part of HRE and number of votes (n>=1)
+ end_date (number of months from EUII startdate) in country.csv
+ HRE_bonus in country.csv (bonus in election for certain countries like Austria)
2) have province information : HRE=0 (not part) or 1 (part) in savefile
+ end_date (number of months from EUII startdate) in province.csv
Logic :
When date reaches end_date for a province => province in savefile HRE=0
When date reaches end_date for a country => country in savefile HRE=0 (*)
=> "natural" shrinking of 1640 (iirc)
When HRE (or former HRE) country conquests (or by defection or as revolter) HRE province before province end_date (information in province.csv) => province in savefile HRE=1
When not (and not former) HRE country conquests (or by defection or as revolter) HRE province => province in savefile HRE=0
So, when HRE country reaches his end_date, it is no more involved in election but doesn't shrink HRE. For country who were not part of HRE at any time in game period but do not shrink HRE, as Poland, the solution is in country.csv as HRE=1 and end_date=0 (immediatly)
With this, HRE is to be drawn by provinces with HRE=1 in savefile
And, for election, apply actual rule with informations in country.csv
I hope number of votes didn't change in game period...
If yes, we need an extra command "modifyHRE" in events for countries in order to change number of votes in savefile and this information is to be taken for elections in savefile and not in country.csv.
If not, HRE information is useless for countries in savefile (*)
Last thing, I hope any former HRE country was able to shrink HRE after his end_dateo
What do you think of this ?
Am I dreaming ?
1) have country information (in country.csv for start and in savefile (*) ) : HRE=0 to n
0 = not part of HRE
n = part of HRE and number of votes (n>=1)
+ end_date (number of months from EUII startdate) in country.csv
+ HRE_bonus in country.csv (bonus in election for certain countries like Austria)
2) have province information : HRE=0 (not part) or 1 (part) in savefile
+ end_date (number of months from EUII startdate) in province.csv
Logic :
When date reaches end_date for a province => province in savefile HRE=0
When date reaches end_date for a country => country in savefile HRE=0 (*)
=> "natural" shrinking of 1640 (iirc)
When HRE (or former HRE) country conquests (or by defection or as revolter) HRE province before province end_date (information in province.csv) => province in savefile HRE=1
When not (and not former) HRE country conquests (or by defection or as revolter) HRE province => province in savefile HRE=0
So, when HRE country reaches his end_date, it is no more involved in election but doesn't shrink HRE. For country who were not part of HRE at any time in game period but do not shrink HRE, as Poland, the solution is in country.csv as HRE=1 and end_date=0 (immediatly)
With this, HRE is to be drawn by provinces with HRE=1 in savefile
And, for election, apply actual rule with informations in country.csv
I hope number of votes didn't change in game period...
If yes, we need an extra command "modifyHRE" in events for countries in order to change number of votes in savefile and this information is to be taken for elections in savefile and not in country.csv.
If not, HRE information is useless for countries in savefile (*)
Last thing, I hope any former HRE country was able to shrink HRE after his end_date
o What do you think of this ?
Am I dreaming ?
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YodaMaster said:
I think so, yes. Johan himself said that he probably wouldn't implement more new features.
Hive said:
Too bad...
I see no other way to have HRE fully moddable with full previous behavior. You wrote probably wouldn't, so maybe there is a little chance. So please... God of thunder and rock&roll
Well yes, but it should stop being a part of the HRE when it becomes French and that doesn't happen anymore apparently.
BiB said:
Yeah but that's a problem not only Provence has. The same applies for Franche Comthé, Lorraine, the Low Countries, etc...
You're right, you know what? We should make it hardcoded so that when France for example takes a province it immediately ceases to be a part of the HRE!
Well, I'm getting the feeling this softcoding is doing more harm than it is fixing things
BiB said:Well, I'm getting the feeling this softcoding is doing more harm than it is fixing things
Bah. You are too negative. We got a chance to get rid of the straits now, what more can you ask?
Acceptable trade-off, this is.