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From D-Day to the end of the Falaise pocket battle.

Regarding M18, I have never seen pictures nor read account of its actual service in Normandy, prior to the combat of Arracourt (18-20th September).
The actual "hard" facts are:
- the 704th TD battalion was the first one to receive M18 in N-W Europe, and had them on September 18th at Arracourt.
- the 704th TD took part in Operation Cobra.

Those are verified facts, but doesn't imply that the 704th had de facto M18 in Normandy.
The earlier date I ever found for delivery of M18 to the 704th was August 1944, hence after Cobra, surely as replacements.

Zaloga says the M18 was committed in late July.

https://books.google.com/books?id=p...XDAN#v=onepage&q=m18 hellcat normandy&f=false
 
Sounds like a Unicorn. So I hope it isn't in the game.
how is unicorn i feel it would be cool unit to balance game. T26e4 would be not unicorn. it saw combat just like sherman or pershing. This tank would balance out the usa vs germany
 
Nope, just no.

No wunderwaffen of whatever side thanks. :)
 
how is unicorn i feel it would be cool unit to balance game. T26e4 would be not unicorn. it saw combat just like sherman or pershing. This tank would balance out the usa vs germany

Reasons why the super perishing will not appear
1)Asymmetrical balance
2) they appeared in 1945 this game is set in 44
3)they saw action in Belgium

And Finally this game is set in 1944
Yes I know I've mentioned earlier in my reply and the fact 1944 is in the actual title of the game which means nothing from 1945!
 
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how is unicorn i feel it would be cool unit to balance game. T26e4 would be not unicorn. it saw combat just like sherman or pershing. This tank would balance out the usa vs germany

In all seriousness, enough games try to include every obscure piece of equipment they can get their hands on. Why not go back to the basics, and make it realistic. Stick to TO&E's - if they could deal with all the crap Germany threw at them in real life with what they had in their TO&E's, I see no reason to go outside them to balance a game, when there's other ways you can achieve a fun and balanced game.

Not to even mention that for me (I'm willing to guess more than a few others as well) it's immersion breaking to see someones battlegroup consist of wunderwaffen and prototype-weapons. There's a reason they stayed prototypes, it's called "war sucks, life hates you, and this piece of junk isn't as good as it looked on paper". But this is a game, we don't get that effect without some serious simulation, so something that was utter garbage on a real battlefield, might punch way above it's weight class in a game. Don't go down that road.
 
In Normandy, it would be, hence why it won't be featured.
I think the most "unicorn" we've got is the M22 Locust, which was ready for deployment in England with the US airborne divisions but was left behind in favor of more cargo space for AA/AT weapons.

This is good to hear. And atleast 800 Locust were produced so it's not like it was a prototype.
 
Fireflies, Challengers, and towed 17-pounders with APDS will be the only option for frontal attack. However, APDS wasn't very accurate at this point in time, so IRL that'd have to be at like 600m. Flanking will be the better way. Air support and artillery will also be great back up since KT's are slow. Thus it will be much harder to withdraw a King TIger from a bad engagement than the super-heavies of Wargame, since(Unlike the Tiger II) the Wargame super-heavies are also fitted with gigantic engines and reach ridiculous speeds that exceed most cheaper tanks.

This whole Tiger II being a lumbering giant thing is just a myth. Sure it's strategic mobility was not all that great, but it's tactical mobility was on par with, or in some cases superior to meduim tanks of it's period.
 
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From D-Day to the end of the Falaise pocket battle.

Regarding M18, I have never seen pictures nor read account of its actual service in Normandy, prior to the combat of Arracourt (18-20th September).
The actual "hard" facts are:
- the 704th TD battalion was the first one to receive M18 in N-W Europe, and had them on September 18th at Arracourt.
- the 704th TD took part in Operation Cobra.

Those are verified facts, but doesn't imply that the 704th had de facto M18 in Normandy.
The earlier date I ever found for delivery of M18 to the 704th was August 1944, hence after Cobra, surely as replacements.

I found the 704th's official unit history here.

"July 25th, 1944 was an unforgettable day to the men of the 704th - the start of the Normandy breakthrough.... the 4th Armored Division with the 704th attached plunged out through the dazed enemy, cutting down, and overrunning anything that presented opposition - the situation was no longer a static one. "B" Company under Captain Falloon was attached to CCB, "C' Company under Captain Evans to CCA, and "A" Company under Captain Ryan, with Headquarters Company under Captain Tanner went to CCR. Rcn. Company under Captain Horn had platoons out with each line company. They rolled to Coutances and assembled to refuel. Snipers and small isolated groups of Germans caused minor delays, but they were wiped out in short order. Moving on to Avranches, "A" Company had its first opportunity to carry out its primary mission. Several well - camouflaged German tanks opened fire and knocked out five half tracks. Lt. Addison of the 2 nd platoon of "A" Company roared past the column with two guns to push the Jerries out. Sgt Joe Shedevy, tank commander spotted the enemy tanks first, T /5 Bleemel Beck, driver, whipped the tank around into firing position, Pfc Manuel Alviso shoved home a 76 mm APC, the breech block snapped shut, Cpl Clinton Threet laid the crosshairs on the center of the swastika, and the first round fired at an enemy tank by an M18 of the Battalion tore through its mark."
 
I found the 704th's official unit history here.

"July 25th, 1944 was an unforgettable day to the men of the 704th - the start of the Normandy breakthrough.... the 4th Armored Division with the 704th attached plunged out through the dazed enemy, cutting down, and overrunning anything that presented opposition - the situation was no longer a static one. "B" Company under Captain Falloon was attached to CCB, "C' Company under Captain Evans to CCA, and "A" Company under Captain Ryan, with Headquarters Company under Captain Tanner went to CCR. Rcn. Company under Captain Horn had platoons out with each line company. They rolled to Coutances and assembled to refuel. Snipers and small isolated groups of Germans caused minor delays, but they were wiped out in short order. Moving on to Avranches, "A" Company had its first opportunity to carry out its primary mission. Several well - camouflaged German tanks opened fire and knocked out five half tracks. Lt. Addison of the 2 nd platoon of "A" Company roared past the column with two guns to push the Jerries out. Sgt Joe Shedevy, tank commander spotted the enemy tanks first, T /5 Bleemel Beck, driver, whipped the tank around into firing position, Pfc Manuel Alviso shoved home a 76 mm APC, the breech block snapped shut, Cpl Clinton Threet laid the crosshairs on the center of the swastika, and the first round fired at an enemy tank by an M18 of the Battalion tore through its mark."

Nice work. US official histories are painful to find - even if they read like fan fiction.
 
Yeah I get the KTs armor is great. I just didnt realize KTs were in the area so soon after D-Day.

King Tigers would in fact be a lot more common in 1944, as Tiger I production would be ended for good by August 1944. That said the two Schwere Panzer Abteilungs which brought King Tigers in Normandy were not at full strength (but then again neither was the 101st SS Schwere Panzer Abteilung - which had the older Tiger Is - for most of the campaign).
 
King Tigers would in fact be a lot more common in 1944, as Tiger I production would be ended for good by August 1944. That said the two Schwere Panzer Abteilungs which brought King Tigers in Normandy were not at full strength (but then again neither was the 101st SS Schwere Panzer Abteilung - which had the older Tiger Is - for most of the campaign).


Exactly what their front armour amounted to is actually a question. British tests suggested that is was quite soft in armour terms and it's protection frontally was not much greater than that of the panther - which is still a lot.
 
Exactly what their front armour amounted to is actually a question. British tests suggested that is was quite soft in armour terms and it's protection frontally was not much greater than that of the panther - which is still a lot.

There are a lot of reports on german armor hardness towards the end. Some say there were no changes, some say there were quite a lot. Honestly, it could really depend on whatever the steel mill had at hand to mix in on the given day.

At any rate, we're talking something like a .9x modifier- which means that Tiger II still has A LOT more armor than Panther.