tech exchange in MP - kind of cheat

[Tonioz]

That is not a bug, but should be changed definetely

As it is known, the idea of exhanging technology is getting -10 research points for each gained technology. The Vicky mechanism counts that for exchanging, but not for giving as the gift.

So in MP it leads to player`s exchanging deals without getting -10 research points - at first one player sends technologies as the gift, then other player does the same to first player... Using this way in our first testing Vicky LAN MP game we got researching of Combustion Engine and 4th level of Railroad before 1560, and most countries got full researched industry and commerce of all able.

The second thing can be popular in MP - it is very comfortable to send expendionary forces to minors to avoid maitenance expenses.

ciao
Anton

 

[unmerged(4926)]

I just hope you realize why the -10 research points is not there when you "give" a tech to someone right ?

 

[Belissarius]

I just hope you realize why the -10 research points is not there when you "give" a tech to someone right ?

hahahaha beware the attack of realism! hahaha

The major problem I have with the -10 now is that it was designed to curb MP exploits and yet now we see that its been underminded. Think the whole -10 research thing should be removed seeing as its fundemental reason for being added has shown to be useless as it doesnt keep two players from sharing 5 techs per diplomatic point and thus teh -10 reseach point feature hurts only single player games and has no effect in MP gamess. The every reason it was added in the first place.

 

[Fawr]

The major problem I have with the -10 now is that it was designed to curb MP exploits and yet now we see that its been underminded. Think the whole -10 research thing should be removed seeing as its fundemental reason for being added has shown to be useless as it doesnt keep two players from sharing 5 techs per diplomatic point and thus the -10 reseach point feature hurts only single player games and has no effect in MP gamess. The very reason it was added in the first place.

The RP cost is the implementation cost. It should remain. The obvious solution to this problem is to make both sides have to pay the 10RPs for research. However the AI will need the use its technology preferences to value incoming technology (most tech would go down in value). Otherwise countries will be flooded with useless tech. This would also curb the "reseach seller" strategy that is found in some SP games.