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Updated tree.
60's DDG require Medium shipyards, WW2 Light Cruiser, 50's DD and 60's Helicopter.
60's FFG require 50's FF and Small shipyards
WW2 PG(Patrol Boat) require Small shipyards.

Now, edited models list:
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MODEL_21_0;WW-II Battlecruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_21_1;WW-II Battleship;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_21_2;Nuclear Battlecruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_21_3;Nuclear Battleship;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_21_4;'80s Heavy Nuclear Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_21_5;'90s Heavy Nuclear Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_21_6;Future Heavy Nuclear Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_21_7;Arsenal Ship;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_0;WW-II Light Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_2;WW-II Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_3;'50s Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_4;'60s Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_5;'60s Missile Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_6;'70s Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_7;'70s Missile Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_8;'80s Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_9;'80s Missile Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_11;'90s Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_12;'90s Missile Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_22_13;Future Frigate;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_0;WW-II Heavy Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_1;'50s Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_2;'50s Nuclear Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_3;'60s Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_4;'60s Nuclear Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_5;'70s Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_6;'70s Nuclear Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_7;'80s Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_8;'80s Nuclear Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_9;'90s Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_11;'90s Nuclear Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_12;Future Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_23_13;Future Nuclear Guided Missile Cruiser;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_24_0;WW2 Patrol Boat;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_24_1;'50s Patrol Boat;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_24_2;'60s Patrol Boat;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_24_3;'70s Patrol Boat;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_24_4;'80s Patrol Boat;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_24_5;'90s Patrol Boat;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_25_0;Future Destroyer;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_25_1;'50s Destroyer;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_25_2;'60s Destroyer;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_25_3;'60s Missile Destroyer;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_25_4;'70s Destroyer;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_25_5;'70s Missile Destroyer;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_25_6;'80s Destroyer;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_25_7;'90s Destroyer;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_25_8;Future Destroyer;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_0;WW-II Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_1;'50s Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_2;'60s Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_3;'70s Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_4;'80s Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_5;'90s Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_6;Future Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_7;'60s Nuclear Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_8;'70s Nuclear Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_9;'80s Nuclear Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_11;'90s Nuclear Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_26_12;Future Nuclear Fleet Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_0;WW-II Light Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_1;'50s ASW Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_2;'50s Light Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_3;'60s ASW Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_4;'60s Light Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_5;'70s ASW Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_6;'70s Light Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_7;'80s ASW Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_8;'80s Light Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_9;'90s ASW Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_11;'90s Light Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_12;Future ASW Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_27_13;Future Light Carrier;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_28_0;WW-II Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_28_1;Post WW-II Diesel Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_28_2;'50s Diesel Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_28_3;'60s Diesel Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_28_4;'70s Diesel Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_28_5;'80s Diesel Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_28_6;'90s Diesel Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_28_7;Future Diesel Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_0;'50s Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_1;'60s Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_2;'70s Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_3;'80s Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_4;'90s Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_5;'90s Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_6;'60s Ballistic Missile Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_7;'70s Ballistic Missile Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_8;'80s Ballistic Missile Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_9;'90s Ballistic Missile Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_29_11;Future Ballistic Missile Nuclear Submarine;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_30_0;Converted Cargo Ship;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_30_1;Attack Transport;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_30_2;Amphibious Transport Dock;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_30_3;Attack Cargo Ship;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_30_4;Armored Landing Ship;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_30_5;'70s LHA;;;;;;;;;;x #Amphibious Assault Ship
MODEL_30_6;'80s LHA;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_30_7;'90s LHA;;;;;;;;;;x
MODEL_30_8;Future LHA;;;;;;;;;;x
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Brigades

Vannila            Cold War
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-CAG           --> CV and CVN Air groups
-ASW           --> Frigate/Destroyer ASW helicopters
-AA            --> SSBN ballistic missiles(let's hope we will get 'em to work on non-coastal provinces, mkay?)
-Fire Control  --> cruise missiles(deployed on BB, BC, SS, SSN, SSBN, maybe some CG and LHA)
-Improved Hull --> rocket weapons for CG and CGN
-Torpedoes     --> CVS Air group(ASW helicopters + some VTOL's)
-Capital AA    --> CVE/CVL Air groups
-Radar         --> anti-capital ship missiles for PG's
As you see, I've changed order of models for many ships, due to AI limitations. It's always builds highest model of ship possible. So I tried to place models so, that it's always builds best ship possible.
Anti-Capital ship missiles are brigade for PG's. That way we can have PG's with missiles and without and keeping number of techs as low as possible.

EDIT:
hellfish6 said:
What are your ideas for doctrines right now?
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Right now I'm thinking about industrial techs, but land doctrines should have 3 main branches: NATO, W.P. and Rest of the world. Ideally those branches should have sub-branches. Also some stand-alone techs like CORE's Winter experience, Mountain expirience and so on.
 
Industrial tech tree

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Computers and Network techs provide research bonuses.
Sybthetic Materials and Metallurgy techs require coresponding Civil Industry tech and required by various aircraft, naval and coresponding military industry techs.
Civil industry provide small IC & supply bonuses and some construction bonuses(aircrafts ports and etc). Military industry provide large IC & supply bonuses and decrease land units building time.
Agriculture techs provide manpower and supply bonuses.
 
Secret tech tree

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These are my initial thoughts about space program and rocketry techs for secret weapons tech tree(also there will be encryption/decryption techs). Small Missile techs are required for all kinds of techs like fighters, guided missile cruisers, various brigades(cruise missiles and so on).
Tactical and ballistic(ICBM) techs are required for various rockets/missiles.
GPS techs will be needed for C2 techs and various doctrines. I don't know if spy sattelites can be implemented correctly, but I included them too.
 
Stupid question in regards to the infantry tech tree:

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We're renaming mountain brigades to light infantry brigades, right? What, then, are air assault brigades supposed to be? Historically they're light infantry that are transported with helicopters... as such, how are they any different from a light infantry brigade with an attached transport helicopter unit?

Could we use that air assault brigade as something else? Light armored or armored cavalry maybe (like US armored cavalry regiment or French Brigade légère blindée)? Something else?
 
hellfish6 said:
We're renaming mountain brigades to light infantry brigades, right? What, then, are air assault brigades supposed to be? Historically they're light infantry that are transported with helicopters... as such, how are they any different from a light infantry brigade with an attached transport helicopter unit?

Could we use that air assault brigade as something else? Light armored or armored cavalry maybe (like US armored cavalry regiment or French Brigade légère blindée)? Something else?
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Well, we already have armoured cavalry, so I don't see need in another light cavalry. And about air assault division, I'm basing descision to include them on US Army TO&E. Besides, Air assault division has integrated attack helicopter squadron. Also, they should have the ability to use airborne armored vehicles, how're you going to simulate this if you'll use transport helicopter brigade to turn light inf. division into air assault?
 
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Foxbat said:
Well, we already have armoured cavalry, so I don't see need in another light cavalry. And about air assault division, I'm basing descision to include them on US Army TO&E. Besides, Air assault division has integrated attack helicopter squadron. Also, they should have the ability to use airborne armored vehicles, how're you going to simulate this if you'll use transport helicopter brigade to turn light inf. division into air assault?
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I think that the best example for an air assault division is the U.S. 11th Air Assault division, ex 11th Airborne Division.
 
Is there any way to modify carriers to have more than one CAG type? The current HOI system wouldn't work for a system that would extend into modern day, as carriers today don't carry one solitary plane type, like it's portrayed IG.
 
Kevin W. said:
Is there any way to modify carriers to have more than one CAG type? The current HOI system wouldn't work for a system that would extend into modern day, as carriers today don't carry one solitary plane type, like it's portrayed IG.
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Yes but you have to replace a naval brigade with other, and add "allowed_brigades = [brigade name]" line at the top of the unit configuration archive.
 
Kevin W. said:
Is there any way to modify carriers to have more than one CAG type? The current HOI system wouldn't work for a system that would extend into modern day, as carriers today don't carry one solitary plane type, like it's portrayed IG.
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Isn't it's more simple and easier just to add naval/shore bombardment/air attack to simulate CAG capabilities than adding 3 different brigades?
 
Foxbat said:
These are my initial thoughts about space program and rocketry techs for secret weapons tech tree(also there will be encryption/decryption techs). Small Missile techs are required for all kinds of techs like fighters, guided missile cruisers, various brigades(cruise missiles and so on).
Tactical and ballistic(ICBM) techs are required for various rockets/missiles.
GPS techs will be needed for C2 techs and various doctrines. I don't know if spy sattelites can be implemented correctly, but I included them too.
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The Spy satellites can raise the surprise chance "us" and reduce "their" surprise chance
 
Bump! :D
Industrial tech tree:
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Air tech tree update:
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Two additional types of CAS models:
Light CAS and Gunships. I hope gunships don't need explanation? ;)
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Light CAS represent all sorts of light aircrafts that are used widely over the world for training and support purposes. Some sort of "poor man airforce" or efficient anti-partisan fighter. For example A-37A Dragonfly, Aermacchi MB-326 and e.t.c.
 
^Very cool and very nice. Does the CAS thing means that the trial of the CAS models succeded?
 
Silly bug report: Foxbat: add required techs to future agriculture.
 
Models

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuupdaaaate!
We only lack doctrine/secret techs, so I composed list with all models/attachements(though it lacks rocket/missile units, doh!).
Download here: http://rapidshare.com/files/59247287/models.txt.html (103Kb, .txt)
If someone wants to start naming models for countries, we'll really appreciate your efforts.
Kretoxian said:
Silly bug report: Foxbat: add required techs to future agriculture.
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Done. :)

UPDATE: Found error in list: lack of 50's and 60's Mechanised Infantry(Armored Cavalry) Regiments.

UPDATE: Changed model numbers for light armor divisions, to ensure that western tank divisions will upgrade from Post War Armored Regiment to 50's NATO Armored Regiment.
 
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