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What about magical research? You could have those with an alchemist guild unlocking wildfire research, asshai unlocking shadowbinding research, northerners studying wargs/greenseers etc. Can you tie tech levels into events? You could have events like the more research done, the greater the chance of children being born with greenseer trait or followed by X animal. Though with wildfire more research should result in more explosions lol. You could also add in events to do a forced tech reset, like the doom etc.

I have no idea if any of that would work, i just liked the idea.
 
Frankly, tech should be in the mod; it should just be utilized in an entirely different fashion than in vanilla. One can argue that technological progress in England wasn't particularly great between 1100-1400 - it was probably greater than in Westeros, but there's a reason the Renaissance has that name. The high middle ages were the domain of the black death and the crusades, not industrial revolution. The technological progress described in vanilla is not transformational. It's a matter of degree, gradually compounding.

aGoT could benefit from the use of the tech system to display, rather than learning-by-doing, a sort of "best practices". What I mean is, perhaps the arrival of a particularly great shipwright increases the galleys available from one's demesne - the Cersei's ships example. Having a man like Petyr Baelish around, acting as if a medieval Goldman Sachs, should increase whatever that tech that increases castle tax is. Further, if technology is moddable, it could represent totally different things, like how much stored arms and armor could be used to equip levies (+attack/defense to heavy infantry, buts clears to 0 after a war ends). Or even something like investing tech points to increase one's chance at getting a good Maester.

Why not just make those "Master-of-Coin" tied modifiers larger instead? Because using tech allows one to simulate what happens when the methods of a superior administrator are passed on beyond his term of service. Events could have a high chance of knocking tech back down, if a particularly ineffective replacement is made. But this would allow it to be more sensible that the Lannisters usually have good administrators in each generation, or that the LP of the Reach is more courtly and majestic than his counterparts.

Obviously, if the tech system isn't moddable, it should remain disabled. But if Paradox provides an avenue for modding, don't just shrug it off because the vanilla implementation doesn't fit the mod. That's what mods are for!
 
It is not only technology that is static in Westeros; Society is too. Westeros has been feudal for 8000 years, much because of the lack of technological progress. In Europe when gunpowder was introduced, knights became obsolete, and thus the whole feudal system that rested on fielding heavy cavalry. What always bothered me with GoT is the mix up of eras in weapons and armour. The weapons in GoT clearly belong in the 9th - 12th century (except that "two handed swords" nonsense that belongs in the 14th -16th century), while the armour belongs in the renaissance of 13th to 16th century. That is the case with most medieval fantasy settings though. So to me, the mod is entirely justify that there is no technological progress, for there has indeed not been the last 8000 years. And it probably won't happen until western Christianity is exported to Westeros and lay the foundation for scientific inquiry.
 
Let me rephrase that to "resting on professional warriors from the nobility who could afford the expensive equipment". When guns became affordable enough, together with the rise of the cities as economic centres, the landed nobility lost much of its military and economic power. In the world of Westeros, the landed nobility have the economic and military upperhand since there is nothing that can match the full-plate warriors of the noble houses.

But the greatest puzzle are the Maesters of the Citadel, who as pointed out, seem unable to develop any kind of scientific method, despite seemingly putting much weight on rationality.
 
Yeah, feudalism becoming obsolete had a lot more to do with changing demographics (particularly after the Black Plague) and the bourgeois class becoming more and more influential and dominant.
 
But the greatest puzzle are the Maesters of the Citadel, who as pointed out, seem unable to develop any kind of scientific method, despite seemingly putting much weight on rationality.

The Maetsres definitely use scientific method.
 
If that is the case, why the 8000 years of near zero scientific progress?

it's hinted that it might be closer to 4000 years but your point stands, and GRRM apparently hinted that something sinister is behind it such as what might be causing the screwed up seasons which themselves might be the actual reason for it.

Or maybe GRRM just wants things like that and has no plans to change it, we have no idea what Valyria was actually like before the doom aside from some fragments and likely miss remembered truths. Technological stasis is pretty common in fantasy since it's a particular style distinct from say urban/modern fantasy etc.

Come to think of it ASOIAF would still work in a gun powder setting but skills with swords wouldn't be as important making Jamie and other warriors less important and the lesser houses would be far less important due to cannons and such wrecking castles although the royals and the grant houses could still be powerful and carry out intrigue...
 
To be clear, I understand why GRMM chose a technological stasis; it makes his life easier and the writing more consistent. This is a common trope in fantasy writing since we all like worlds that have thousands of years of history to show for, as long as we can still read/play around with swords and awesome armour.

Nobility and court intrigue has continued to exist all up until present day, so that could of course work in any setting. But the introduction of gunpowder and any social change to ASOIAF would make for a very different world that probably would not be compatibel with the current theme.

I suppose the best explenation of the Maesters is to liken them with the trends of the ERE in its later years to revere and seek to emulate the past and not strive for any actual progress.
 
If that is the case, why the 8000 years of near zero scientific progress?

I read an interesting article on why technological stasis may exist in such fantasy worlds as ASoIaF. Basically long story short: magic. The magic (that we know was more common during the age of dragons, although not sure how pronounced it was) may have meant there was no need for technological advancement as things that we use technology to help with may have been handled in a magical way. (Asshai may well still have magic not sure)
 
I read an interesting article on why technological stasis may exist in such fantasy worlds as ASoIaF. Basically long story short: magic. The magic (that we know was more common during the age of dragons, although not sure how pronounced it was) may have meant there was no need for technological advancement as things that we use technology to help with may have been handled in a magical way. (Asshai may well still have magic not sure)

Asshai more them likely does considering it's in a Mordorish like deathland from the description in the World of Ice and Fire and apparently has no children and lots of shadow binders and buildings made of oily black stone etc..., the series almost seems to have had magic almost die in the west but not so much in the east at least until it starts growing in the west thanks to Daenerys dragons hatching.
 
I would like technology implemented back in, but in a different way too.

Example access to retinue (like unsullied)
Dragon riders bonus (instead of making just a dragon rider pit)
Knight bonus (instead of just having a trait define knight)

Different diplomacy setting and brutality (a bit like slavery access to castrate and torture)
Assassins guilds etc. (now all just hire faceless events etc, but this way the technology level represent investment into those guilds and setup)
Why does only braavios only have consort and why do they always retun there >.< or escape miraculously (even enslaved)

Maybe put this way, would like technology representing advancements or cultures specials.
So if you want to raid/reave as another culture, you need level X reaving. (so ironborn still get it as free, but other culture and religion can invest huge amount of tech points into getting it, if they desire)
 
The problem with using technology to simulate 'best practice' is that best practice doesn't seem to survive in ASoIaF. Instead, it seems to be established by 'great men', who use it to further their own ends and careers and consequently keep it a closely-guarded secret.

In Weberian terms, you could say that administration is charismatic rather than rational-mechanical. Take Littlefinger's accounting techniques, for instance - no one can wrap their heads around how he makes money appear, no one seems to be particularly interested, and he's certainly not going to tell anyone (partly because it turns out he was just taking out loans). When Littlefinger is gone, his replacement has no idea how to manage the Kingdoms' finances; there isn't generalised knowledge of that sort, except in the form of the Maesters, who are effectively a secretive guild of general experts and have an interest in limiting the accessibility of knowledge to themselves.

Varys is another case in point. What he does isn't based on a generalised theory of espionage, but rather on his own personal competence and charisma. To replace him, they need to find someone with his own way of doing things. The only kind of training in administrative functions seems to be practical experience, outside of the Citadel.

So if we implemented technology, it would have to be assumed that, when the economic technology level increases, it's because Littlefinger, say, develops and records, systematically, his techniques, such that anyone studying his records could learn them, and that there are people who are trained in them. Note that educational institutions other than the Citadel don't seem to exist in Westeros. That doesn't happen; Littlefinger's knowledge will die with him. For that situation to be modelled, the technology level would have to drop every time a councillor is replaced. The same applies to military practices; a brilliant general in Westeros doesn't institutionalise their methods such that they persist after the general's death.

Indeed, technology seems to have been in decay for a long time, if anything, as it sounds like at the time of Aegon's conquest, magic - arguably a form of technology - was used for things that people at the time of the books' setting don't even remember. Even (presumably) non-magical technologies such as wildfire seem to be lost quite easily - the lack of any educational infrastructure for the preservation and distribution of accumulated knowledge means that, even when new discoveries are made and used, political disruption can cause them to stop being used. The use of wildfire was never generalised, for example, because the Targaryen kings had an interest in keeping it secret, and if it were to be generalised, it would be to the disadvantage of the ruling class - it would entail greater investments in warfare and potentially destabilise the social order, as it would enable knowledgeable but relatively powerless agents to use incredible force (a petty lord - or worse, a revolting peasant leader - could theoretically blow up the Red Keep).

The stasis of society is probably the most significant contributor: if someone did invent the steam engine in Westeros, why would it lead to an industrial revolution? Hero of Alexandria described the steam turbine in the first century AD; no one realised its implications because the agricultural economy, as it stood, functioned without the need for powered locomotives, and their introduction would have seriously destabilised an economy based on the exploitation of slave labour, and in turn the whole socio-political situation in which the acquisition of slaves through warfare, provision of land for the soldiers needed to acquire slaves, and so on, was fundamental. In Westeros, who would have access to that knowledge and not, at the same time, a vested interest in maintaining an economy based on the exploitation of the peasantry? Even if such a person did exist (Tyrion might be sympathetic to their plight), how could they convince enough people to take up the new technology? It would be against the interests of the entire power structure, and there's no nascent class (such as the bourgeoisie in our industrial revolution) to use it to the end of seizing power.

If there's some other variable that increases incrementally over time in the world of ASoIaF, technology could perhaps be used to simulate that. I can't think of one off the top of my head, though.
 
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Well the Ghiz empire unsullied still excist, even if only in Astapor. While there civilisation is dead.

The valyrian Dragons still excist even if they have been extinct for a couple centuries.
Wildfire was researched again, magic is coming back slowly with Rhllor faith.

Technology maybe asked for by people isn't the technology they know from CK2 (which would work horrible in AGOT, was thinking of modding it back in, but it just wouldn't work in AGOT, some things just doesn't feel right in a total conversion game)

But it would be cool to make technology do other stuff, that normally are culture restricted.
I mean why does Braavos has the only courtesan houses, The Iron Throne only access to kings Guard events.
I know somethings are just to give flavor and make certain factions unique.

But something like knight system could easily be copied over, matrilinear republics (which I tought was working fine, also do not have a issue anymore with female inheritance or winning the republic elections, unless it was the custom GOT house traits bugging up the familiy barony/palace)

Maybe make technology Features, would be more reasonable, want to study magic? Now you can.
(sadly I don't know how to make it work without tons of work)
So maybe it is beter put who wants to really dedicate time to make AGOT technology unique and work with certain factions favorite events.