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They didn't overly, though they make up a slight majority in the region they are people of Turkic origin but still Orthodox Christian, most of the people of Turkic Islamic origin are in Egypt in this timeline. Anatolia is like Byzantium's Austria, both of the same or very similar origin and to a degree wishing to be conjoined but like Austria and Germany they are being forced to keep separate

The whole idea of Pan-Slavism and the huge unrest among the Slavic regions did not happen as OTL. As the regions in Europe were cleansed much as Basil II did in Bulgaria in the 12 century, along with that the European territories were subjected to a much more rigorous integration doctrine with the Theme system being brought over from Anatolia to Europe.

The splitting of the Empire wasnt totally along National lines it was from convenience, essentially as I have said the Emperor was forced to accept the loss of all lands that had been occupied by Britain and Co, however their European territories still stood strong and rather than continuing to attempt to break into them an due to the Byzantine surrender they inflicted the most stringent terms they could in regards to the lands that had already fallen. Also, as you have probably noticed, in this timeline Britain, Russia and France were the ones with aggressive military alliance and their long term goals were all different. France wished for a weakened France and Byzantium and to generally get their revenge. Britain wished for free access via the Suez canal to their Indian and East African positions and Russia wished to assert themselves as the New Rome and to do so with a power play in regards to Romania.

Also, everyone should vote to deny the unseating of government in La Republique ;)
 
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Also, as you have probably noticed, in this timeline Britain, Russia and France were the ones with aggressive military alliance and their long term goals were all different.

Just as in OTL. :D
 
i think Byzantium will face same destiny as turks in otl, there will appear greekish ataturk (atagreek? lol) that will make a revolt,
well make a vote? ;)
on either it will be left(commies, +50 relations with USSR, mutuall guarantee, later on probably allies), centre(realpolitik, just regain territory and stay neutral) or right(go nazi, go crazy(ee), contest all) revolution

anyway starting the 1936 with home war would be interesting :D
 
I don't know about an Attaturk but it's certain that a militant and vengeful Byzantine Government will arise from this cruel and brutal dismemberment. It may be that the monarchy is discredited after this, or the blame is put on "wicked and shifty advisers."

I wonder how the US and Russia view this?
 
i think americans will "give a damn" bt russian might see that as an opportunity and as a problem (it might be easier to get deal with bizantium or easier to move in with revolution but balkanised anatolia/middle east will heat up things in caucasus and central asia) as it might end up with russians reaching coast of indian sea
 
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Prologue; G. M. Aurelius, 1989, De vita Caesarum: The Reigns of the Emperors from Manuel II to Constantine XIV, (Constantinople) Chapter 16; The Beginnings of Byzsoc:~

As was explained in the previous chapters the victory in the Great War of the jingoistic Axis powers had severe consequences, not just for Byzantium but for all of its allies in the war. In the case of Germany this was the loss of its territories in central Europe as well as East Prussia and its colonies in Africa. Italy had escaped from the war largely unscathed due to its early surrender to the Axis and its supplying and contribution to the Axis campaigns from 1916 onwards. In Byzantium itself the loss of over 75% of the empire along with nearly 50% of its industrial base lead as might be expected to a severe depression in the economy with the number of unemployed reaching by 1921 a figure closing in on 20% of the working population.

These problems were of course laid at the door of the then emperor, Julius VI Augustus. Though he had only taken power following his father’s death just following the war it was the opinion of the people and thus the assembly that the problems of the empire in regards to the current levels of unemployment and the food shortage could be laid squarely at his door. This discontent was made manifest by the rise of many political parties that can only be named as extremists, with the various regions of what was left of the Empire sprouting different groups the parties which sprung to large prominence in the 1922 elections were the Byzantine People’s Party (BPP) and the Byzantine Socialist Front (BSF). While based purely off the names which were presented to the people one might assume that these two parties would be in alignment with each other and opposed to the reining Byzantine Imperial Party (BIP) this was not that case and as such, despite losing almost 30% of its vote split evenly between the two parties the BIP was able to continue to operate as the governmental party by ruling through a minority and the subtle playing off of the BPP and BSF against each other when the BIP wished to pass a bill.

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Georgi Dimitov leader of the BPP

Due to their prominence in Byzantine politics of the period it is apt that each party should be analysed in slightly more depth. The Byzantine People’s Party had its routes among the huge industrial parks of the Bulgar Province of the Empire. With their close proximity to the Rumanian state which had been placed under the close protection of the newly formed USSR they were a conduit through which the then leader of the soviets, Lenin, had been able to funnel communist propaganda into the state and it was in the mind of one Georgi Dimitov which the effort of Lenin took fruit. Already a member of parliament in the liberal party of the empire, Georgi became convinced that it was only through the acceptance of communism and a toppling of the monarchy much as had happened in Russia could Byzantium ascend to its former place of power within the world. Preaching to his liberal colleague Georgi was able to convince almost a third of the existing liberal membership of parliament to turn to his new party the BPP when he founded it in 1920. The BPP’s policies were an almost carbon copy of those espoused by the Soviets in Russia, however to allow the party to avoid the censure which the Emperor was constitutionally allowed to place upon any party which could be accused of treason their central tenement was for the Emperor to become the Premier should the BPP grasp power with the title of Premier becoming a hereditary title in the line of current Emperor, however, the Premier would enjoy much more limited powers that the Emperor and the various bureaus proposed much more.

The Byzantine Socialist Front unlike the BPP was a party embodying the views of the people of the Empire without foreign influence affecting their views to another’s benefit. Born as the brainchild of a group of miners within the Serbian Protectorates the BSF was a party of the people and was from its formation in 1918 just a minor player in local politics with just 860 registered members, this was to change following the joining of their cause by Milan Nedic, a man who had served in the Imperial Army during the Russian Campaigns of the Great War and had been honourably discharged as part of the limitations upon the Imperial Army enforced as part of the Treaty of Toulouse. Formerly a colonel on the general staff Nedic had been born in 1877 and was a staunch patriot and nationalist who unlike the majority of people laid the problems of the empire on a corrupt governmental structure who had censured the will and efforts of the emperor and thus leading to the stagnation of the empires economy. His call was to give back to the people of the empire their jobs and a secure supply of food. He vowed that should the BSF come into power it would do all it its power to restore to the Emperor the ability to guide and protect the empire without being guided and controlled by the corrupt members of the current government. This message as might be imagined in a country where the average man could hardly afford to eat and cloth his family allowed for the common man an actual thing to blame within the country that his vote might in fact be able to affect, the level of membership of the party between 1919 when Nedic joined and the 1922 elections increased exponentially with the party securing 27% of the national vote and thus holding 81 seats in the parliament.

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Milan Nedic the leader of the BSF.

The years from 1922 until 1926 can be categorised by increasing tensions between the supporters of the BSF and those of the BPP, alongside this is the increasing inability of the minority BIP government to control even the simplest of proposals to the parliament. The first evidence of the increasing tensions between BPP and BSF came with the formation of the Imperial Fists, a group of activists with the BSF which formed into an unofficial militia following a conjectured incident at a BSF gathering in Bulgaria where it was claimed that Communists had attacked the small group with clubs and even caused a pregnant woman to miscarry. The IF as they shall be here on in referred to grew quickly in number until in 1924 a year after their formation and at the onset of the elections of the local authorities they numbered over 5,000 in total. As might be expected in response to the formation of a paramilitary group attached to the BSF the BPP responded in kind with the creation of the ‘Red and Whites’ or RAW as they shall be referred to in later chapters, though not as large as the IF they were better organised with the first commander of the RAW being one Simeon Vlasic who had until that point been an assistant manager at a steel mill.

As such the stage was set in the 1924 local elections for a series of events that would change the face of politics within the Empire totally, with two armed fructuous parties within its boundaries the Empire had come once again under the scrutiny of the former Axis powers and money had been flooding the country to support one of the three main parties with France providing funding to the BSF, Britain to the BIP and the soviets funding the BPP it would only be a matter of time before the kettle that Byzantium had become would boil over.
 
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Prologue; G. M. Aurelius, 1989, De vita Caesarum: The Reigns of the Emperors from Manuel II to Constantine XIV, (Constantinople) Chapter 17; The Clash at Salonica:~

As was explored in the previous chapter the Byzantine Empire in 1926 was one riven by political division. With numerous clashes taking place between supporters of the BSF and the BPP in towns throughout the empire it was seen by many contemporary european politicians at the time that it would be only a matter of time before matters came to a head. Indeed the man who would become one of the most infamous Prime Ministers of Britain in later years is quoted often in this context in regards to a statement he made at a dinner held at the Italian Embassy in London; "My dear ambassador, Byzantium has become nothing more or less than a powder keg, it is my opinion that within the political struggle currently enveloping that land we will see some indication of the strengths of the differing views on rule which have been developing in europe of late. Will the more autocratic ideas of the BSF win through with the system of thought I am informed is called 'national populism', or will the red tide sweep from Russia into the Balkans? Personally of course I am in favour of the BIP managing to preserve some type of true democracy in the region of course, but I do not believe they will be able to do so........you might say, I have my doubts."

In light of the perfect hindsight that is possessed by many historians today, wherein we press onto the figures of the past our own morales and knowledge we take for granted it seems to us that the way in which the political tensions within Byzantium came to a head seems obvious. However, there was no way in which the people of the age could predict the events of the Wall Street Stockmarket crash. With the economies of the victors of the Great War having become tied heavily into that of the United States of America the massive contraction which hit the US economy was felt acutely in Western Europe. As many readers are no doubt aware the effects of this crash are seen as one of the many important events leading to the ascension of Adolf Hitler as the leader of the much truncated nation of Germany as well as the descent into inactivety and dithering of the governments of France and Britain.

However, in Byzantium it was the conjuntion of the abrupt market crash happening in conjunction with the 1928 elections which brought the boiling tensions to a head. With the announcement of the Salonica vote having long been one of the major indicators as to which way the general vote would go the city found itself swamped under BSF and BPP supporters on the day of the vote count, as well as large portions of the paramilitary arms of both parties. After nearly 24 hours of counting the government officials with a small firing squad of 4 imperial soldiers at his back announced that the seat of Salonica had been voted to the BSF with a 42 vote margin. He further announced that the vote had been recounted twice and as such the final counts have been ~ 18,760 (44.5%) BSF, 18,718 (44.4%) BPP, 4,679 (11%) BIP.

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People cowering from the start of the violence between the RAW and Imperial Troops.

This count was met with differing extremes of reaction, from the BSF was elation that all indicators were for a narrow victory empire wide for their party, however on the part of the BPP anger was widespread and a rumour began to circulate about ballot fixing on the part of the BSF. Though the issue was not pressed and the crowds dispersed by 9AM of the following day the city was in uproar. With the RAW paramilitary group of the BPP advancing on the government buildings of the city demanding a new vote and a new count, taken by members of the BPP the small garrison of Imperial troops in the city was marched out to meet them. This however proved to be a mistake, in the close quarters of the city streets and with no way to form proper street blocks due to the nature of the labyrinth of alleys in the city, the RAW were able to close in on an openly attack the Imperial forces using makeshift weapons and what handguns they had. Thus, by noon the Imperial infantry in the city had been broken and the RAW resumed their march.

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BSF supporters clashing with the BPP as night closes in.
Just half an hour later with the Mayor of the city looking out onto the streets the sound of the communist chants getting closer stopped abruptly with screams and the sound of small arms fire drifting up from as close as two houses away from the square in front of the government building. With no idea what was going on when at 5PM that evening a small group of men all wearing red armbands made their way to the front of the building the mayor very nearly had them shot on sight. That was until the lead man raised his head and the mayor saw the face of Milan Nedic, the leader of the BSF. Shouting up to the mayor he declared that the communists had been driven fron the town and the RAW had been stopped. He then asked if he might be allowed in to the building to refresh himself, seeing no reason to refuse the mayor ordered the door unbarred and the man let in. A man guarding the door that day in a later poem that the entrance of Nedic to the building was not that of a man who had protected his government, but that of a conquerer in the ancient style and the poem was apt, as the rise of Milan Nedic was just beginning.
 
Chetnik alert!
 
communist chants getting closer stopped abruptly with screams and the sound of small arms fire drifting up from as close as two houses away from the square in front of the government building. (...) Milan Nedic, the leader of the BSF. Shouting up to the mayor he declared that the communists had been driven fron the town and the RAW had been stopped.

so bpp forces first dealt with imperial guard, came allmost under the gov buildings and then, just with few shots, yelled to bsf?
somethings wrong!

anyway i see world is to become fasci grey :-(
 
The fighting between the BSF paramilitary and the BPP paramilitary forces went on from 12:30PM until 5PM when Nesic arrives at the government buildings.