As I was explaining to Daniel earlier about his analysis, that does not leave "everybody as a winner". Portugal has expanded very little against the AI- in fact its been fighting an uphill battle against intelligent players since the beginning. Why? Because it had nowhere else to go, whereas Saxony and Moldavia, and other players to a lesser extent had all the room they could want. So when I lose this war, I lose a large amount of my gross gains since the beginning of the game, which have come to represent the backbone of the Portuguese economy. Almost everything that Portugal is was won in that struggle. The only difference between Portugal and Saxony or Moldavia, is that my country was forced to expend vs humans, whereas they did not have the necessity, or the ambition or courage to take such a step themselves. Either of them are more powerful than Portugal now, as is Albania.
So to say that Portugal comes out slightly ahead of where it was as a net winner is preposterous. Especially when inflation is so high, and tech has begun to really lag. The real winners, by far, are Saxony and Moldavia, because they didn't need to expand during this war in the first place. But this was Portugals economic progress. The alliance members grew by colonizing, trading(yeah, Daniel and co grabbed all the AI cots toward the beginning. I had to grab all mine and scotlands cots from humans, but for this I am a bad guy, and recieve sanctions by the world. Why isn't it equally bad to take a cot from the AI? Is it just the emotional frustration the victim of a player war recieves, compared to no feelings for the AI? Is there any difference outside of that? Why should it set any bigger alarm for the global community that a player loses a cot, than when a player snatches one from the AI?) So They established themselves as the top players with their uber powerteching and expending in easy wars vs the AI. and continued to do this with relative ease as the burden of war was shared between them, rather than placed on a sole nation as it was with Portugal.
And equally beneficial to all the coalition members, it acted as a polarizing force, preventing any of the big powers from getting attacked themselves. All they had to do was recruit support to fight portugal.
If this war was about balance, then Portugal should recieve a mere slap on the wrist, because there are a few nations already that are much stronger than Portugal. But of course, I am willing to agree to terms, as long as they are reasonable. What can I say, I am good at defensive warfare. It took you guys a while to get organized, and for some nations to pull equal weight, and for you to lose the weaker nation of Naples, that I was always able to use for easy warscore. But now you get the result of everything working normal for you, and Portugal was easily defeated thrice. My main tool for holding out so long has been the use of DOTF. The most logical demand would be for me to give up the title, and a few concessions to each party.
That I should give up almost everything in France is a little out of line. Especially when I've already lost a good chunk of what I have there. If this war is about vengeance, Brabant will have already recieved plenty to satisfy whatever craving it has. Seven provs from Moldavia is a lot.
7 provs is more than can be demanded by a nation in one war.
However, I am willing to give up Champagne and all the lands parallel to, or north of it, to Brabant. If you want to buy lands to the south of that, my ears are open. That's 9 provs. A 15 prov boon for Brabant, constituting more than half of France. It is already very dramatic and extreme for Portugal to suffer this, on top of all the other losses it is facing, but acceptable. However, don't push me any further than this.
