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So...
What will be?

EU = Europeans countries that left NATO.
NATO = USA and who didn't enter EU.
WP = East Europe.

Like this?

Also, I can try to help codifying some events, or with some Brazilian Tech Teams.

Cheers,
Tedesco
 
So...
What will be?

EU = Europeans countries that left NATO.
NATO = USA and who didn't enter EU.
WP = East Europe.

Like this?

Also, I can try to help codifying some events, or with some Brazilian Tech Teams.

Cheers,
Tedesco

This is the alliance situation as of 1990:
EU: U00 (The European Union)
NATO: USA ENG BEL CAN FRA POR HOL ITA ICL DEN GRE TUR SPA POR NOR GER
Warsaw Pact: SOV BUL CZE HUN POL ROM

E: And yes, all new events/other stuff is appreciated. I've done a lot already, though.
 
Hey guys, I played a little with Photoshop today, so I decided to create a small poll.
Which one of these scenario icons should we use?
Number #1, the one currently in use:

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Number #2, with soldier, rain, and the Berlin wall:

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And Number #3, with a ripped Soviet flag and "Berlin Wall Tumbles" piece of newspaper:

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Guy_Montag also votes for #2, he cannot post because he hasn't got AoD.
I will edit the second picture a bit to fix the scale, the soldier is too wide atm.
 
While I'm finishing up the provinces, we could discuss the national ideas. Are there some that should be renamed and effects revised?
 
I can provide some help event wise. Ironically the back ground i made for a sci fi game I'm running included a realistic set of events covering 2001 to 2020. Included were wars some of which could go nuclear, Terrorism, and the like.
 
I can provide some help event wise. Ironically the back ground i made for a sci fi game I'm running included a realistic set of events covering 2001 to 2020. Included were wars some of which could go nuclear, Terrorism, and the like.

That would be nice. I'd like to do the major, big events myself (Like the dissolve of the USSR, and the Gulf War events), but you could do some events relating to something you'd like to do or have done before. Do you want to reserve some id's?
Oh, and nuclear wars are made similarly to MDS, so that only if you are losing badly OR the enemy uses nukes (if they have things going badly), an event gives you the possibility to use nukes. Also, after the war, the nuke mission is disabled again. You can only use nukes in a near-death situation or if the enemy uses them.
 
I'd be glad to help with the events and all about Russia, since I live here.
I just see a lot of difficulties fitting all the rl events into such a model as it is in AoD.

I think first of all you should decide about the timeline end (1st iteration at least). Besides, in case of ahistorical decisions, i see it extremely difficult to come up with anything but dead-end.

Some thoughts about major Russian event chains could be done (only historical):

1. USSR Dissolution
-- Baltic states independence declaration, Gorbatchev visit and KGB Spetsnaz operations 1990-1991
-- Baku "Popular Front" crush by troops 1990 Jan
-- USSR Referendum 1991 Mar
-- Russian SFSR first president election 1991 Jun
-- The August Coup 1991 Aug
-- Ukranian referendum 1991 Dec
-- Belavezhskaya Pushcha (CIS creation and Soviet era end) 1991 Dec // need to swicth country tag etc

2. Shock therapy, GDP and industrial collapse // have no idea yet on how to implement it in AoD model

3. Constitutional crisis of 1993
-- National referendum
-- Yeltsin's "Order 1440" - dissolution of Supreme Soviet
-- Mass protests and Moscow riots, russian white house tanks shelling
-- New constitution

4. Chechen Wars
-- 1st war 1994-1996
-- Invasion of Dagestan 1999
-- Terrorism uprising (Apartment blocks bombings, Budyonnovsk hospital hostage crisis, Nord-Ost siege, Beslan massacre)
-- 2nd war 1999-2000

5. USA/USSR nuclear arms limitation treaties
-- START I (1991/1994)
-- START II (1993/canceled)
-- Detargeting (1994)
-- [United nations] CTBT (1996)
-- SORT (2002 / 2003)

6. 1997 Asian Financial Crisis // worldwide event chain, should have heavy consequences in Russia, including "GKO bills crisis"

7. Yeltsin resignation and Putin accession to power 1999-2000

8. "United Russia" party creation 2001

9. "Putin's Plan" (2004-now)
-- National Priority Projects
-- Power centralization reforms

10. Georgia // most of the events should be for Georgia
-- Gamsakhurdia accession to power and fleeing to Chechnya 1990-1991
-- Shevardnadze presidency 1992-2004
-- Ossetian war 1991-1992
-- Abkhaz war 1992-1993
-- Civil war 1993, CIS entrance to ensure peace // Russian choice as well
-- Rose Revolution 2003 and Saakashvili accession to power
-- Georgia Train and Equip Program (GTEP)
-- Anti-government protests 2007
-- South Ossetia War 2008

+ major events for Ukraine, Moldavia, Tajikistan, Baltic states

In theory, I could do the scripting myself as well, but I guess some discussions will be needed.
 
I've made changes to the USSR dissolution event chain. If you decide the defeat the coup, in the end of December you have no other choice than to dissolve the USSR. Also note that if you decide to "OK" the coup, USA has a chance of intervening. The reason is that historically, USA was ready to give support to the USSR so that they could defeat the coupers (whatever is a name for couping persons?). If the USSR decides to just accept the change, the USA might declare war.

And some of the events you mentioned bring me ideas about some really nice a-historical possibilities. The nuclear limitation: What if some nation stubbornly refuses and decides to do MORE nuclear tests instead?

Also thanks for mentioned these, I wouldn't have known anything about Chechen wars. Are you Russian?
 
> I've made changes to the USSR dissolution event chain. If you decide the defeat the coup, in the end of December you have no other choice than to dissolve the USSR.

No problem, I've just included it in the list as a potential event, no need for "multiple choice".

> Also note that if you decide to "OK" the coup, USA has a chance of intervening. The reason is that historically, USA was ready to give support to the USSR so that they could defeat the coupers (whatever is a name for couping persons?). If the USSR decides to just accept the change, the USA might declare war.

Hmm.. peronally I think that such a probability for the AI should be really small, ~ 1%. But internal reactions/effects (whatever is kind of it) should be negative indeed.

The names of the coupers are:
vice president Gennadi Yanayev, prime minister Valentin Pavlov, defense minister Dmitriy Yazov, KGB chief Vladimir Kryuchkov

> Chechen wars.

There will be troubles implementing them anyhow.
Besides, similar conditions (like "dissent > 20" as far as I see it) but at larger scale should trigger some ahistorical seccessions, like other Caucasian republics, Bashkiria, Tataria etc.

> Are you Russian?

Yes, I am.

I'm ready to do some research and provide some more info on any topic about the events in Russia/USSR/CIS, whichever you need.
 
There's one special case that requires our attention - Congo. In 1990, it was still Zaire, and was renamed in 1997. I think we have to make a new tag for Congo, and then make Zaire become Congo.

E: Due to my stupid file replacing, I must re-assign every province again. Fortunately I didn't get that much done.
 
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Eww, triple post coming.
I'm soon done with reassigning the provinces. Meanwhile, you can have a look at the (almost) finished new interface:
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Also, I'd like to have a completely new minimap (the AoD gray one doesn't fit 1990s, so I'm using the Hoi2DDA map), but the scale is always wrong.
 
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Here's one of a couple rough event chains i've come up with.

4th Indo Pakistani War

1. Rogue Elements in Pakistan Inteligence service try to assassinate prime minister of india.

for this was thinking about Pakistan loosing a potential Security Minister.

2. Assassination attempt. India of course finds out that is was memebers of Pakistan Intelligence and dont care if they're rogue or not

Two choices here
1 India prime minister dies (they go to war)
2 Prime minster Lives they Might go to war.

Both choices of course Have negative Relation for Pakistan with Most countries. ( who likes an assassin)

3. Now if war breaks out as both these countries are members of the Nuclear club there should be a trigger for a possible exchange if the enemy gets too close to victory such as an event trigger if the opposite player take a province next to the capital of the other nation.

4. Aftermath - Nuclear Exchange Both countries start over as much as they can. Can think of all sort of event internationally at this eventuality.

Aftermath - Pakistan Loss without an exchange never the less there would be great anger among the people and This could start a civil war within the country that could possibly end up with a coup bringing islamicist government to power.

For india something similar fall of the government ect ect ect.
 
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Thank you. I will make these events when I'm ready with assigning the provinces (or at least approximately).
What do you think of the UI?