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The Rule of Jingtai, conclusion & of Jingding I, Chapter I

After the great Tibetan war, the rule of Jingtai began to follow his health, slowly declining as the years past. While the military force in the South kept revolutions down, many in the occupied provinces knew that weakness was being shown from within the walls of the Imperial City and they wanted to take advantage of it as quickly as possible.

While revolutionaries planned to remove the yoke of Chinese rule in the South, in the North, another less obvious sense of warfare was being waged. Within the market places of Jingzou, Sortau, and Changsau, merchants of the Chinese Empire were slowly being brided, coerced, and intimidated away from their employers service to work for other nations. The backers of such a plot were doing well to cover their tracks, although with the decline of the central government, it was not hard to achieve.

Finally the fateful day came. White banners flew across the nations as the news of the passing of the Emporer swept across the land. Ruler of almost a quarter century, Jingtai would be loved by his followers, but reviled by recent subjects to the Empire. His advisers and those closest to him in court circles would be of the middle of the scale of love and hate; he was a poor emperor there was no mistaking that. And yet he appealed to the common serf, and his successes in the battlefield would solidify a reputation that was larger then the man himself. Only a long dehabilitating illness would sully his reputation in the slightest, and even them not by much. A true paradox.

Rising to the throne would be his eldest, Jingding The First. Unlike his father, he had proved to be a very capable man for the head position in all regards*. As dignitaries, royalty and heads of state gathered to pay their last respects, Jingding took control of the council, ordering efforts in the training community re-doubled, and to find out the source of who was accosting their merchants and their bankers. Those that were responsible would give Jingding his first taste of battle.

The source was finally found through their contacts in the underworld and spy networks, but it was not who you would expect.

* = Stats of 7/7/8. Not too shabby if you ask me!
 
Duke of Wellington said:
You sure annihilated the opposition. You cannot annex a nation by force unless they are Pagan or have only one province left.

That kind of sucks, although understandable. However, technically everyone is Pagan to me (as I am confusism, and my neighbours I believe are all Buddism, Anamalism, or whatever Japan is)

mib said:
Hmm in the demo in 1493 there is a Ming vassal called Annam in Vijaya that soon gets killed by Champa (allowing me to DoW them and annex Vijaya and vassalize Champa...)

Hm....havent' seen it, but I"ll start a game at 1493 and check it out. By nwo I probably have it under my control :D

stnylan said:
Sounds like a good divide and rule stragey you executed there - very imperial. But trouble at home hey? Revolts perhaps?

Oh defiantly. I lost three regiments of five thousand men in the southern lands in between the last update and this one. Probably didn't help that I was demanding religious conversions. ;)

As for the divide and conquer, I kind of like that. Defiantely made things interesting, and with my huge expanse of land blocking any troops moving between Southern and Western nations, alliances are hard to help out each other.

kingmbutu said:
sounds like they took a sound beating.. but maybe the consequences will not have been worth the gain1

Didn't someone once say that war is much easier to do then peace? I am experiencing that during the time frame of this update. Half of it is self caused though, as with the multitude of money that I get I'm trying to convert my new subjects. As of where I last left the game (1493), Half of my subjects are not the state religion. Not a good thing at all.
 
Now, just hope he doesn't die off quick! I just had that today happen in a game, got a wonderful monarch who lasted for all of about two years!!!
 
The Rule of Jingding I, Chapter Two

Jingding the First, in his first few years of rule sought to bring back order and efficiency to all aspects of life within the Empire. During his father's illness, things had been lax, and for this his enemies were like sharks in the water, circling around the leaking of blood. This could not continue, and would not under his rule.

First he ordered all rebel activity suppressed in the Southern lands. Five regiments of five thousand men were sent to help the southern divisions to finally crush the rebellious populace once and for all. Following them were bringers of the enlighten wisdom of Confucius, to convert them from the heathenism worship of Buddha, or as the Emporer termed him, "The only popular fat man to have ever existed". While it would be many years before any results to the missionaries work would be seen, the effect to the military show of force was instant. The southern regiments, who were just holding their own to put out fires across the northern peninsula, now had the manpower to not only defeat the rebels, but to chase them down and stamp them out completely. Relative peace soon followed, for while the fire of some to rebel was still smoldering, no fuel allowed it to grow into a burning flame.

The next stage he would focus on would be one of cloak and dagger politics, and of the source behind his merchants issues. After two years his advisers had news on the source of the backers. All were amazed as to who it was, so much so that it took three confirmations to convince the court.

The source, was the Mongol Khanate.

The Emporer was impressed; they were no match to regain their Chinese holdings by force, so they struck at the fuel that runs the Empire's power. Money. Further enquiries find that the Oirat Horde was helping with undermining our trade, while Tugung and Chumpa were in alliance with them, with Tugung in line to inherent the Mongol Khanate throne. Once the coffers start to run dry, thats' when they'll attack and the Empire will not be able to muster a response. Very ingenious, and under his fathers reign it may ahve worked.

But a new Emporer was in charge, and with this information, it'd be all they need to erase their western menaces once and for all.

Emporer Jingding decided that he would play their subtle game. He ordered creations of the largest armed forces known to the Empire; over 30,000 troops of spear and horse would be deployed in the provinces south of the capital to avoid detection by their enemies, as doing so near the border or the trade centres would set off the alarm. After a few years they were ready, the southern batteries were replenished, all but one item was set.

Many years ago, the former emporer Jingtai guaranteed the independence of the Mongol Khanate as a deterrent to the Oirat Horde. However they had used this to their advantage, scheming against those that swore to protect them. Emporer Jingding would not go against their word, but he did know that once the current ruler died, they would feel the full wrath of the Empire for such betrayal.

In the year 1480, news reached the forbidden city of the passing of the leader of the Khanate, and the crown being inherited by the King of Tugung. The Emporer lept into action, having all legions dispatched to the Khnate with orders to destroy all in their path. Delegations sent to the Khanate that they would soon be under Chinese control were expedited as well, some having a ahrd time staying ahead of the invading armies.

The military genius of Emporer Jingding was awe-inspiring. Within three months the Khanate was only a shell of it's former self, being wiped off the face of the map, it's acting governor executed personally by the Emporer as a warning to all those that betray the Empire. By the war declarations that followed from the Oirat Horde, Tugung and Chumpa, it was not effective in conveying its' message. the Emporer offered a hard lesson, personally leading the charge into the Oirat, while the southern legions swept south into Tugung yet again. Chumpa was ignored for the time being, any chance of it claiming territory muted by over ten thousand troops stationed outside it's borders to repel any attempt, to which there were some, although small and badly outclassed.

The Oirat Horde consisted of not much more then plains and desert, subtle for fast quick armies such as the Khan calvary of old. This time however, it was the Chinese that had the calvary, sweeping across the plains and sand like locust, destroying all armies that dared to face them. They were not here to conquer, they were here to annihilate, and they were effective at doing so. The Oirat fought hard, but only the vastness of the Oirat nation prevented this from being over quickly. A few parties made it past the swarm to try and cause some disruption in China proper, but were quickly crushed by their local allies, Manchu. By the time news reached the Emporer that Tugung was annexed, the Oirats were on their way to becoming vassals of the Empire, being left one measly province.

Tugung was a long siege, going many months with fierce fighting between both sides. The people of this subjected nation already knew their fate should they fail; they had already experienced one crushing loss to the Empire, and this time their leaders had been exposed for their treacherous plot. They would receive no mercy this time. In fact, the siege was so bloody and hard fought that ti is set when the walls were finally breached, the victors only found dead or dying bodies in the streets. The people of the city had given every ounce they had to defend their realm. For this alone the city was spared it's intended fate.

With CHumpa left all alone, and the armies in the Tugung campaign being set to control any potential unrest in the southern provinces (to which there were some misguided attempts), the armies swarmed into the last traitor nation. Unlike Tugung, Chumpa caved quickly, offering vassalation soon after the siege began upon their capitol. Liek the Oirat, they were made a vassal and subgicated to the authority of the Empire....minus one leader and his head of course.

In the span of one year, Emporer Jingding had proved once again that the Empire was not to be trifled with, and with only the Khmer nation as a potential advisory in the future, China was in control of the Far east in all sense of the word. Trade soon began to increase, with Chinas tradesmen no longer fearing harassment or worse, it looked to be the beginning of peaceful times for the Empire.

How long they would last, it would remind to be seen.



The Northern lands after the revenge of Jingding The First



The southern lands. Quite efficient, wouldn't you say?
 
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stnylan said:
Now, just hope he doesn't die off quick! I just had that today happen in a game, got a wonderful monarch who lasted for all of about two years!!!

NO he seems pretty virial, He began his reign in I believe 1473, and twenty years later he's still kicking from what I remember

mib said:
... Pdox need to fix the "numbered succession" thingy. Really.

:confused: He was the first of hat name, hence he'd be #1?

Duke of Wellington said:
A very nice leader to have. I hope as stnylan says that his reign is not short.

So far twenty years and counting. He's pretty handy, better then the last guy for sure.

Decided to treat you folks with a second update, since it was just flowing today and also I wont' be here next weekend, so this will probably be the last one till I get us caught up to present day.
 
canadiancreed said:
:confused: He was the first of hat name, hence he'd be #1?
He was the first of that name, and will be the only one of that name. Naming kids after their parents (or grandparents, or ancestors) is simply NOT done. It is outrageous and sacrilegious and blasphemous. :mad: :mad:
 
mib said:
He was the first of that name, and will be the only one of that name. Naming kids after their parents (or grandparents, or ancestors) is simply NOT done. It is outrageous and sacrilegious and blasphemous. :mad: :mad:
Someone forgot to tell the European royal families that one :D
 
Duke of Wellington said:
Surely such a strong base of power will last a long time.
You never know. It's usualyl not the external enemies that you need to watch out for, but the internal strife that has killed off great empires then this.
 
Excellent updates. The Empire grows and Jingding doesn't look like a man to be trifled with (i.e very good stats).

How about some screenshots of the Empire?
 
A very - ahhh - 'educational' campaign for the Mongols there. ;)
 
Garuda said:
Excellent updates. The Empire grows and Jingding doesn't look like a man to be trifled with (i.e very good stats).

How about some screenshots of the Empire?

Ya I didnt' even notice how good they were until the reactions in the War of the Roses about Queen Anne being 9/9/9. Truly these are the beginning of the golden age :D

As for screenies I'm working on it. My plans for them have hit a snag :(

stnylan said:
A very - ahhh - 'educational' campaign for the Mongols there. ;)

Indeed. Today's lesson is get caught screwing with the Empire, prepare to be educated in Pain 101
 
canadiancreed said:
..., for while the fire of some to rebel was still smoldering, no fuel allowed it to grow into a burning flame.

I really like this sentence. Very well-written. :)

You made some excellent progress. I'm looking forward to a titanic clash with Russia in the future (if you haven't colonized Siberia before they can get powerful enough, though).
 
Grundius said:
I really like this sentence. Very well-written. :)

You made some excellent progress. I'm looking forward to a titanic clash with Russia in the future (if you haven't colonized Siberia before they can get powerful enough, though).
Well if I recall from my playing around with one of the states there (I forget if it was Novgorod or Muscovy), they dont' start out that powerful, or large. They've got Islamic nations hating them to the east and south, and Lithuania, Poland, and Sweden chomping at the bit to the west. I dont' predict them ever giving me trouble.

Then again, I havnet' gotten any explorers yet.....like at all.......in over fifty years. I think they figured that China was a closed society, hence they modeled it that way.
 
canadiancreed said:
Well if I recall from my playing around with one of the states there (I forget if it was Novgorod or Muscovy), they dont' start out that powerful, or large. They've got Islamic nations hating them to the east and south, and Lithuania, Poland, and Sweden chomping at the bit to the west. I dont' predict them ever giving me trouble.

Then again, I havnet' gotten any explorers yet.....like at all.......in over fifty years. I think they figured that China was a closed society, hence they modeled it that way.

I believe you'll have to recruit those explorers with the "Quest for the New World" idea.
 
Very interesting story so far. China expansion in Central Asia could be very interesting. Good work canadiancreed, but screen or two would enchence this AAR
 
Hello all again. Sorry for the delay, but I have some good news. I've finally gotten some pictures for you to enjoy, and starting with the next update, you'll have many more illustrations to peak at. Thanks to the creator of materilize, and the folks at imageshack (having issues with my own host, so for the time being imageshack it is)

Grundius said:
I believe you'll have to recruit those explorers with the "Quest for the New World" idea.

Damn is that the only way? I know that with euro nations I could get colonists, but couldn't' do anything with undiscovered areas yet obviously :). Oh well, I'll just conquer some more ;)

thrashing mad said:
Very interesting story so far. China expansion in Central Asia could be very interesting. Good work canadiancreed, but screen or two would enchence this AAR

I'd have to discover msot of it. Apparently I only know a little pathway or too past the former Oirat Horde areas.

As for pictures....well read above :D