Confirmed The Eternal Court - Quest Bug

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Summary​

The Eternal Court - Quest Bug

Description​

Unable to explore the Tomb of the Lost Mother on the 'Web of Madness' quest to complete the scenario. In both saves the NPC Sylvani Laurel has settled by the wonder, and it shows as cleared both times (though not annexed on 2nd try). Annexing the wonder, and moving various heroes onto it did not allow me to explore it, or count it towards the quest.

Steps to reproduce​

Start The Eternal Court Story Realm 4 scenario from Rise of the Godir.
Start Web of Madness quest.
Travel to Tomb of the Lost Mother (seen around turn 25+)
Tomb of the Lost Mother is explored, and cannot be interacted with.

Platform​

Steam

Game Version​

v1.010.001.106191

Owned DLCs​

• Dragon Dawn
• Empires and Ashes
• Primal Fury
• Eldritch Realms
• Herald of Glory
• Ways of War
• Giant Kings

Optional​

Affected Feature​

• Campaign
• Quests

Attachments​

View attachment AUTOSAVE - Katrina, Turn 75.zip

 

[Patriarche]

Hi Patriarche, thanks for reaching out
Here is your fixed save game!

thank you ^^

 

[Patriarche]

Hello,

thank you for fixing my save file

I have been trying to add my savegame to the same folder I have taken my save file from, but when I launch the game to try and load it, it doesn't show in the list.

Any idea why the save doesn't appear in-game? I've tried to check and even when I copy-paste an existing file from the same folder, the copy doesn't appear in the list. It looks like if it wasn't generated by the game, the game doesn't want to recognize the file.

 

[Eomolch]

Good morning, Patriache!
Sorry for the late reply, but I had to check with a few people about this.

As it turns out, unfortunately, what I did was not very well informed and save game fixing like this will only work for GoG players. For other platform users the save games are cloud based and as you observed this means the system will ignore files you put in the same folder manually.

My apologies for this mixup and giving you unfounded hope of fixing the session, which sadly is not possible.

However, at the very least, yesterday's 1.2.1 Giant Kings patch did bring our general fix of the issue for players on new playthroughs. This does unfortunately not help you, but should mean no more people will get stuck on this moving forward.

Best regards,
Eomolch

 

[Velodir]

Hey,
it seems that the fix has not worked for me.
I started a new game yesterday, but the tomb is still bugged and I can't complete the quest. I included two savegames, one from the very beginning and one where I completed the other two objectives (hoping that it was just a visual bug).

 

[Eomolch]

Hi Velodir, thank you for reporting this and very sorry about this bug somehow still messing with your game. I have looked into it and it seems that there is another bug in addition to the one previously fixed that still makes it that _sometimes_ the wonder is cleared on game start. A coder is looking into the exact cause of this now!

Unfortunately as established before I cannot fix your save, so you will have to complete your session the non-story route

 

[Ragius_66]

Hello,

I have the same problem as those described above, but on PS5. There is no need to fix the save, because I start from the beginning anyway. I just have one question - if I currently start this map from the beginning on hard difficulty, will the bug not occur? I have all the add-ons including Giant Kings. Will lowering the difficulty to "normal" help solve the problem?

EDIT: It works! I started new campaign on Hard and rushed for the tomb. Everything seems to be fine.

Kind regards,
Ragius

 

[Ashur4]

Hi!

I have the same issue as mentioned above. The save it's still fixable?

Thanks!

 

[Vidyaraja]

Hello,

I seem to have the same problem.
Game up to dateon the Steam platform, difficulty Hard, started a new save even today - and I checked, it doesn't seem like sylvani has enough affinity to clear the Tomb (though maybe NPC opponents can clear it by force?)

I'm not asking for a save fix, rather I just want to use the thread this problem is still occurring even in up to date clients

 

[Vidyaraja]

I wish to submit a second set of saves in which the bug did not occur - and these should also be set on Hard.
Off the top of my head I can think of two things that happened differently in this session:
- No ruler revealed the Tomb before I revealed it I just ran into this again and saw the tomb cleared with sylvani having a slaim on it. Perhaps it is based on claim?
- Perhaps most importantly, I did not reveal the Tomb before finding Necrolis and starting the quest (in most sessions, a player will likely find the tomb before finding Necrolis) This was not it. I tested this theory just now in a different playthrough

 

[Vidyaraja]

After more testing, I can confirm the bug is still present. Some games will start with the tomb cleared, and some will start not bugged.
Should I make a new thread for it?

 

[Eomolch]

HI Vidyaraja, I am very sorry about the late reply. I did look into the problem again when you reported it, but it then had to go to a (very busy) coder for debugging and I forgot to reply.

I found exactly the same thing as you, that it was sometimes working fine and sometimes cleared on hard.
There is no need to start another bug thread, it is in our system and QA is pushing for a fix for our AP release.

 

[GenovaEmpera]

HI Vidyaraja, I am very sorry about the late reply. I did look into the problem again when you reported it, but it then had to go to a (very busy) coder for debugging and I forgot to reply.

I found exactly the same thing as you, that it was sometimes working fine and sometimes cleared on hard.
There is no need to start another bug thread, it is in our system and QA is pushing for a fix for our AP release.

Hello, Paradox Team!
I've encountered this bug as well! More so, I've also caught something related to this quest, that might bring some insight on what's wrong with this story chapter.

Prerequisites:
1. Version: 1.010.001.105705
2. Mode: Normal
3. Ruler is an ascended champion of a custom race.

Rep steps:
1. Start on Normal (since it initialises a cleared TombOfLostMother on Hard mode again and again).
2. Spot EternalCourt city spawned in proximity to your throne city.
3. Lay siege on EternalCourt on day 14 before encountering both MeandorOfHouseInioch and MelenisTheLifeless and receiving WebOfMadness quest.
4. Migrate EternalCourt to your ruler origin race on day 17.
5. Meet MelenisTheLifeless and get the WebOfMadness quest.

Result:
The FallenEmperorDefeated sub quest gets checked, and the text turns green, yet the counter is still 0/1. Also, MeandorOfHouseInioch doesn't get furious at all like he usually does. You can even ally with him and be 800 points happy friends despite what the story script tells you. Which is rather funny.

Attached a screenshot depicting the problem and a random save file from that session. Hope it helps!