I wonder if the Emperor might be making a mistake supporting the rebels and fostering the spread of democracy and nefarious republicanism in the world. 
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Aha so the Empire is going to send an army to help the Americans eventually! Just as I thought! Though hopefully that won't do to the Empire what it did for France, and just fan the flames of a revolution much closer to home.
I suppose the revolution will be over a bit faster if both France and the Romans send help, then you can have more time to prepare for L'Empereur Napoleon
I suppose the revolution will be over a bit faster if both France and the Romans send help, then you can have more time to prepare for L'Empereur Napoleon
Andreios II said:
I'm sure SeanB can answer this better than I can, but from what I've read so far, the Empire is a very different beast than ancien regime France was: better, more ably lead at the top (the current Emperor, his name escapes me at the moment, is no where near Louis XVI); more consistently applied and better designed laws and criminal codes; better economy, and nothing like the hated tailie of France; Constantinople is, from all appearences, nothing like contemporary Paris (no mobs waiting to form and storm the Bastille, no Robespierre waiting in the wings, etc.); and so on.
It might be over a little faster than in real life, but it'll still take a couple of years for the Colonials to win. I expect that both the Empire and France will play a "wait and see" game, figure out if the Americans are for real (maybe send some supplies, some advisors, just to keep their hand in the game), then commit active forces to combat Britain. One thing to remember: the American War of Independence brought to the forefront Britains vulnerabilities of trying to fight a war across the length of the North American continent, while facing no enemy in Europe.Andreios II said:I suppose the revolution will be over a bit faster if both France and the Romans send help, then you can have more time to prepare for L'Empereur Napoleon
It'll be interesting...
Lemons
The First Partition of Poland and the Ethnicity of the Roman Empire
Several years before the outbreak of the colonial rebellion in America, there had been a debate amongst the Great Powers of Eastern Europe. Poland, an elective Monarchy on the verge of complete Anarchy was desperately attempting to reform its bloated and overly complicated political system.
One of the largest states in Eastern Europe, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth had fallen far by the 18th century, essentially being a Russian vassal whose Kings were chosen by the Russian Empress. In 1732, Austria, Russia and Prussia signed the Alliance of the Three Black Eagles.
One of the key motivators of this pact was to prevent Poland from reforming, and possibly growing in strength again. This would have greatly threatened all three states’ interests and possibly even their security, as Poland had proven to be considerably aggressive during the height of its power.
Though the Roman Empire was not a signatory to this agreement, their interests in the eventual fate of ‘The Crown’ gradually increased over the following decades. On February 19th, 1772, Prussia, Russia, Austria and Rome all agreed to partition Poland in order to prevent any successful reforms from threatening their collective interests.
The Confederation of Bar (1768 – 1772) had attempted to expel foreign influence from Poland, which in itself perhaps only further encouraged the partition. Despite Poland’s valiant attempt to drive the Russians out, their disorganized and hastily raised armies fell before the better trained and equipped Russian military.
The partition itself was relatively quick in comparison. Though some regions held out for nearly a year, most of the territory was easily conquered by the occupying powers. The Roman Empire itself took the provinces of Moldova and Bujak, while Prussia took Pozan and Danzig. Russia took several territories along its border with Poland, while Austria gained the rich salt mines of Bochnia.
Though the First Partition of Poland was devastating for the Poles at the time, it did show notable signs of an emerging national consciousness amongst the Poles. Nevertheless, it had cost them over 100,000 lives, and devastated them economically.
From this point onward, Poland’s fortunes would only grow dimmer, however it is important to note that the Sejm (Parliament of Poland) did manage to pass several important reforms amidst the chaos of the partition, such as the creation of a Permanent Council and Commission for National Education.
The Partitions of Poland is considered a controversial topic amongst the Poles to this very day.
The Roman Empire, happy with its new gains in the East, chose to consolidate them in 1773 by forcing Prince Grigore III Ghica to abdicate the throne of Wallachia, which had been a loyal vassal of the Roman Empire for over 300 years following the defeat of the Ottoman Empire and its other vassals by Demetrios Palaiologos.
The Prince was forced to turn over the entirety of his realm to the Empire, and it became a part of the newly formed Roymaniki Eklogiki Perifereia. (Romanian Electoral Region, or Romanian Constituency.)
Newly acquired territory
Despite the name however, Emperor Nikolaos III dispatched Greek governors to Romania, and only the very small population of Greeks in the region were allowed to elect the constituency’s representative in the Koinoboylio.
This caused a degree of unrest amongst the Romanian population of the region, who were use to greater rights under the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, and who felt alienated by Roman intolerance of their cultural differences and customs. Romanian schools were closed, and efforts to Greekify the population were undertaken, greatly lowering literacy.
Neither Britain nor France showed concern for the partition of Poland, and offered no opposition, despite the pleas of Polish King Stanislaw August Poniatowski. It is considered one of the more controversial acts of the 18th century, and still conjures anger among many Polish nationalists to this very day.
The ill treatment of the Romanians by the Roman Empire would eventually lead to trouble, but at the time their efforts to rebel were too disorganized and sparse to pose any serious threat to Roman authority in the region. The primary reason for this ill treatment was the perception amongst the Greeks that the Romanians were hardly different from the Slavs of the Balkans, who were at best considered second-class subjects of the Emperor.
Within the Roman Empire of the late 18th century, there were considered to be five main ethnic groups. The Greeks were of course the dominant culture of the Roman Empire and were given the most favor when it came to positions within the government and in high society in general, making up the vast majority of nobility in the Empire.
The Turks and Italians, while still not as favored as their Greek counterparts, were in most respects considered to be “first class” subjects of the Emperor. They were still allowed to hold positions within the government, and tended to be the primary holders of public offices in their native regions.
In contrast the other two ethnic groups, the Arabs and the Balkan Slavs, were barred from holding public offices or government positions in most cases. They did not vote for the representatives of their constituencies in the Imperial Parliament, and while they were not quite serfs, they were still forbidden from serving in the army.
Both were perceived as “uncivilized” and unworthy of the privileges held by the more accepted ethnic groups. While the Arabs had originally been seen as a reasonable and cultured (if heathen) people by the Empire, the perception at that time was that they had been corrupted by the savage and brutal Mongols who had conquered much of their land.
The Mameluks, being former slaves, were also considered to have corrupted any semblance of “nobility” and civilization within the Arab world. This applied to all Arabs, however, including those who had never been under Mongol or Mameluk rule. The only ones who were marginally respected were the Empire’s vassal states.
These included the Hedjaz, which held both Mecca and Medin; Al-Hassa, a Shiite state created in the northwestern tip of Arabia by the Persians before it was later placed under Roman protection, Morocco, which was the oldest tributary state of the Empire, having been paying an annual tribute since the late 16th century and to a lesser extent Persia, though Roman control over the Shah had greatly waned by the 1770s.
The Slavs had been seen as Barbarians since they first invaded the Balkans following the fall of the Western Empire. They had been a constant and ever present thorn in the side of the Empire, particularly the Bulgarian and Serbian Empires, both of which threatened the very existence of Constantine’s state with their aggressive expansion.
Though the Romanians called themselves ‘Romani’, most Greeks of that day considered any Roman legacy that they might have once possessed to have been watered down and all but eliminated by “Slavonic Influence”. Though their culture differed in many important ways from that of the Slavs of the Balkans, their adherence to Slavonic Orthodoxy caused resentment from the Greeks.
The relations between Prussia and the Empire were only further strengthened by the partition of Poland, as Emperor Nikolaos III praised Frederick the Great, who had originally promoted the idea of partitioning Poland, famously stating: “Not only an ingenious military leader, but also a capable statesman, Frederick is a worthy example for all future Sovereigns to follow.” A trade agreement was soon arranged between the Empire and Prussia, allowing Imperial merchants to easily set up shop in the rich coastal trading center of Danzig.
As the American Revolution began in Britain’s North American colonies, and as the Empire gradually began lending their support to the cause of the rebels in their fight for independence, many of the more learned individuals within the mainland Empire began to wonder if self-determination should be an ideal solely restricted to the American continent…
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There you go, enjoy and reply.
I know this post is technically a prequel to the last one, but I forgot it before, and I felt it needed to be covered.
Mettermrck: Well, There isn't really any strong Republican movement within the Empire right now. Only the most extreme parliamentarians dream of such a thing, and always in secret.
Andreios II: The Empire may eventually send an army, but certainly not before 1778. The Emperor at this point believes that the rebellion in the American colonies is nothing more than a revolt that will soon be crushed by Britain. They'll have to prove to him that they actually have a chance of winning before he'll commit anything major like troops.
Lemonsbd: The Empire is not really in danger of a revolution, thanks to Emperor Nikolaos III's reforms. For now, the parliamentarians have been mostly appeased. What is far more dangerous to the Empire is the idea of self determination. If these ideas spread too widely among the Slavonic and Arabic peoples of the Empire, it could cause great unrest in the future...
Andreios II: The Empire may eventually send an army, but certainly not before 1778. The Emperor at this point believes that the rebellion in the American colonies is nothing more than a revolt that will soon be crushed by Britain. They'll have to prove to him that they actually have a chance of winning before he'll commit anything major like troops.
Lemonsbd: The Empire is not really in danger of a revolution, thanks to Emperor Nikolaos III's reforms. For now, the parliamentarians have been mostly appeased. What is far more dangerous to the Empire is the idea of self determination. If these ideas spread too widely among the Slavonic and Arabic peoples of the Empire, it could cause great unrest in the future...
On the other hand; all Roman citizens are equal regardless of nationality. It's a fundamental fact of Imperial law ever since Caracalla extended the citizenship to all free men in the Empire. That goes for Indians and Caribs and even Slavs and Arabs. I suspect Curcuas will fight for his political survival on this issue of equality. (RThe son of an Arab Sheik was the Emperor who celebrated Rome's millenium.)
This really is quite an impressive work. Rarely does one see an AAR span two years (and over 350 in-game years) without facing some sort of untimely death or disinterest. I've read it all of the way through recently and have found it enticing from the early period of renewed life to the troubles and glories of a major world power.
I like the style of this too. Its a fine balance that includes story-building without straying so far from the mechanics of the game that its difficult to understand what is represented. Good to see that you're keeping much of the world outside of this purple powerhouse historical. Hopefully that means that gameplay in Victoria and particularly HoI2 won't be too lopsided and weird, like some converted games tend to get.
I look forward to seeing this continue over the final decades of EUII and on into Victoria and beyond. God willing, this will indeed become, as promised, a history of the Roman Empire from a besieged city-state in the fifteenth century to its surely decisive role in the Second World War.
I like the style of this too. Its a fine balance that includes story-building without straying so far from the mechanics of the game that its difficult to understand what is represented. Good to see that you're keeping much of the world outside of this purple powerhouse historical. Hopefully that means that gameplay in Victoria and particularly HoI2 won't be too lopsided and weird, like some converted games tend to get.
I look forward to seeing this continue over the final decades of EUII and on into Victoria and beyond. God willing, this will indeed become, as promised, a history of the Roman Empire from a besieged city-state in the fifteenth century to its surely decisive role in the Second World War.
It's been a real pleasure to read so far.
Is it strange that I get inspired to play EU2 when I read great AARs?
Is it strange that I get inspired to play EU2 when I read great AARs?
American War of Independence: The Patriot and the Time Lord
After the success of the Siege of Boston, the Roman Empire began shipping supplies to the beleaguered revolutionaries. At first, they were but minor shipments, smuggled to the rebels mainly through French territory and occasionally through Boston Harbor itself. These supplies were enough to keep the rebels fighting however.
Consisting mostly of muskets, gunpowder and bayonets, these small shipments were never intended to help the rebels win the war, but merely delay Britain in putting down this troublesome revolt, which would hopefully weaken their global position, if only slightly.
Emperor Nikolaos III and his court believed that the rebels had utterly no chance of victory. Indeed, for most of 1775 and the first part of 1776, it seemed as if the rebels had no real goal or objective behind their revolt. In the eyes of Nikolaos, this was merely another colonial revolt without any real goal or objective.
He expected them to quickly melt away once the disciplined armies of Britain marched upon them, and thus did not wish to invest too heavily in this uprising. Most members of his court shared this opinion with the Emperor, as did most in the Koinoboylio. Their view of the colonial rebellion however, would quickly begin to change in mid-1776.
From early 1775 to the first half of 1776, the American Revolution was seen by foreign powers as being merely a revolt, or at the very absolute most, a civil war. On July 4th, 1776 however, all 13 of the rebellious colonies adopted what they called a “Declaration of Independence” which formally abolished their connection to the British Crown.
One of the main reasons for this act was to rally their people around a clear and common goal, as well as unite the members of continental congress against their common enemy. But it also served as a means of announcing to the Old World that they were now an independent state, and that the enemies of Great Britain, such as France and the Roman Empire, were free to intervene since it was no longer a civil war.
Though many in Europe considered the legitimacy of the declaration somewhat dubious, it served to show that the colonies were more than merely a disunited band of rebels without a clear objective. Emperor Nikolaos himself was impressed by the declaration’s boldness, though he still doubted the colonists’ chances of victory.
Nevertheless, the declaration took the war beyond merely a civil conflict, and the Emperor began considering the possibility of heavily investing in the newly formed 13 United States of America. Even if they could not win in the long run, it was now clear to him that this war would be a protracted conflict that would cost Britain dearly.
At first, it seemed as if the American prospects for victory were indeed bleak. The Battle for New York in the later part of 1776 saw the capture of New York City by the British army under Sir William Howe and Lord Cornwallis. New Jersey nearly fell as well, but a strong counteroffensive by Washington saved the colony from occupation.
Though New Jersey had been saved, the loss of New York, one of the largest cities in America, cast doubt upon those who had been considering giving aid to the fledgling state. The Emperor did not wish for a fruitless war with Britain that would only weaken the Empire, and did not wish to needlessly worsen their relations even further by sending large amounts of military supplies and resources to a lost cause.
But the United States desperately needed allies against Britain. In 1777, it dispatched John Jay as an emissary to the court of the Roman Emperor in Constantinople, and John Adams to Louis XVI’s court in Paris. John Jay arrived on April 7th to try and garner recognition, funding and supplies for use against the British.
After the disastrous later half of 1776 however, the Emperor proved reluctant to offer any significant aid to the US. He still saw it as a government doomed to eventual failure, and at the time, it seemed as if it would fall sooner, rather than later. Nevertheless, the Emperor allowed John Jay to meet with him in person, a great honor for a man not even of noble birth...
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April 21st 1777, Great Palace of Constantinople
He was here, at last. After two long weeks of waiting in apprehension, he was finally here. John Jay, an emissary from the fledgling United States of America nervously watched several soldiers dressed in white uniform approach him and his small entourage. It had taken them over a month to reach Greece from Boston harbor, but what had proven even more agonizing was the wait afterwards.
Upon their arrival, they were told by the Logothetes tou dromou that the Emperor would not be able to give them an audience for at least two weeks. While outwardly they graciously exclaimed their willingness to wait for His Majesty’s availability, inside they were offended at the ease with which they were brushed aside.
Their stay in Constantinople had been a pleasant one nonetheless. They had been given quarters near the Imperial residence at Blachernae, which even after the restoration of the Great Palace in the 16th century, continued to be the primary living quarters of the Imperial Family, as well as the Patriarch on some occasions.
Despite being relatively close to the palace at Blachernae however, they had yet to see any members of the Imperial Family. Most aspects of government had been relegated to the Great Palace, where the Emperor primarily lived separate from his family.
John Jay and his fellow patriots had traveled a great distance for this day. The tension could be felt in the air around the men, as they knew they would soon be standing before the ruler of the only Empire that had any hope of opposing Great Britain.
The gentle sound of hems that echoed throughout the palace did little to sooth their nerves as the pristinely uniformed guards grew closer. They knew that they could not fail in their mission, as it could very well mean the destruction of their fledgling state, and the end of the ideals upon which it stood.
The soldiers finally stopped short of a meter away from the group. Their uniforms were well kept, without a wrinkle or blemish. On their shako-style hats, they bore the symbol of the White Guard, the elite Imperial Guard founded by the late Megas Domestikos Georgios Curcuas, and maintained by the Emperor.
They clearly were not simply ceremonial guards however. One only needed to look into the eyes of one of these stern individuals to know that they had experienced the horrors of war. They were veterans, the elite of the Roman Empire, and worthy of guarding the life of the Emperor himself.
There were seven guards in all with the forward most one bearing the colors of an officer. The man briefly glanced over John Jay and his two companions as if to judge their worth.
“His Imperial Majesty shall see you now. Please follow me, and do not stray. You are guests of His Most Gracious Majesty and you are expected to behave as such.” The officer spoke in a rather stern tone, considering they were diplomatic emissaries.
John Jay nodded his head slowly, “We are grateful for being allowed to plea our case before His Majesty.” The man stated cordially.
The officer did not speak another word, as he turned and began walking down the long corridor. The three Americans quickly followed behind him, as the other six guards marched along beside them. The corridor was made of beautiful marble that glistened brilliantly with the sunlight as it shined through the large colored windows.
Renaissance art covered the ceiling and much of the walls where there were once mosaics, while their path was covered with a carpet of Imperial purple. Golden cloth covered each junction that they passed, and in addition to the six men who were escorting them, there were great lines of guards standing at attention all along the walls of the corridors.
The gentle and soothing sound of hymns could be heard throughout the palace, the voices of the unseen choir echoing throughout the structure. The Americans had never experienced anything like what they were seeing and hearing now. After passing through a seemingly endless maze of elaborately decorated chambers and corridors, the emissaries found themselves gazing at a pair of massive golden doors.
Seemingly without so much as a signal from the escorting guards, the massive doors began to creak open. The befuddled Americans watched in amazement as the doors took over a minute to fully open. The room before them was both wide and elongated. On either side of the main path, crowds of Dynatoi could be seen conversing with one another.
As their escorts lead them further into the room, they could see a large section near the back of the chamber, completely shrouded with purple cloth. As they grew closer, a figure stepped forward from around the shroud, dressed in the typical aristocratic fashion of the day. After giving the Americans a slight glance of disdain, he cleared his throat as the guards stopped before him and stepped aside.
“Before you, hidden from your eyes by this shroud, sits His Imperial Majesty, King of Kings and God’s Vicar on Earth. He, in his infinite generosity, has chosen to allow you to speak before him this day. You will prostrate yourself before him and will not rise until His Majesty sees fit for you to do so.” The chamberlain stated with a hint of disdain for the men before him.
John Jay could hear his two companions grumbling under their breath at the man’s order. They were representatives of the United States, and they did not just throw off one master to simply grovel before another.
John Jay stepped forward slightly, “We must respectfully decline. As representatives of the United States of America and its Congress, we shall not bow down before any foreign authority. So with that in mind, we again, must respectfully decline.” He finished, awaiting the harsh response that he was certain he would receive.
The palace chamberlain’s face twisted in outrage, “Need I remind you that you are supplicants before His Majesty! If you wish for him to hear your pleas, then you will prostrate yourself in respect of his presence as is customary!” The chamberlain barked at the delegation.
It now appeared as if the men behind John Jay were preparing to shout obscenities at the nobleman before them, but they were stopped when I surprisingly soft voice spoke up.
“They need not prostrate themselves if they do not wish to. I shall hear their request regardless.” A man hidden behind the purple shroud stated.
“B-but Your Majesty…!” The chamberlain spluttered slightly, before hesitantly turning back towards the Americans. “…You should count yourselves fortunate. His Benevolent Highness has bestowed a great honor upon you. But I must still insist that you kneel before his presence.” The man finished sternly.
John Jay nodded his head slightly, “That is acceptable. I am most grateful for His Majesty’s understanding.” He stated as he dropped to one knee, lowering his head slightly. The two men behind him reluctantly followed suit.
The chamberlain then clapped his hands twice, and the shroud was pulled back, finally revealing an illustriously dressed figure sitting upon an elevated throne. Above his throne was a marble double-headed eagle emblem, with the national flag of the Empire to its right and left. The throne itself sat at the top of a short flight of stairs, elevating it above all within the room. The man who sat upon the throne was surprisingly young, seemingly in his early 30s. He smiled slightly at John Jay and his companions as they knelt before him.
“It brings me great joy to see that you have arrived safely and in good health after your long journey. I do hope that your stay in the City was a pleasant and comfortable one.” The Emperor stated with a surprisingly warm tone. The Americans had expected the Emperor to be disdainful and cold towards them.
“We appreciate the great hospitality that His Majesty has shown us these past two weeks. Our stay has been one of the utmost pleasure.” John Jay finally responded, trying to sound as respectful as he knew how to be.
The Emperor gave the slightest of nods to the men before him in response, “To have come so far, I would imagine that you must have a matter of great importance to discuss. Let us speak more in a less formal setting. I have taken the liberty of having a banquet prepared for you, so that we might speak with greater ease and comfort.”
John Jay nodded slightly once more, “We thank His Majesty for his gracious generosity.” While John Jay personally did not care for Monarchial formality or titles, he knew that for the good of his country, he would have to conform to some of their social customs. He knew that his compatriots would need to be kept in line so as not to offend their hosts.
The banquet later that night was attended by not only the American delegation and the Emperor, but also many of the highest-ranking Dynatoi within the Empire. The amount of food and wine brought to the table by the palace chefs looked to be enough to feed one of the smaller colonies for weeks on end.
The food was a delicious assortment of Greek, Italian, French and even a few American dishes fixed by special chefs who had previously been to the colonies whilst they were still under British dominion. The meal went well, with everyone present eating their full. Afterwards, the Emperor told all but his most senior Court Officials and guards to leave the room in order to give him and the delegation some privacy in which to speak.
“I hope the meal was to your liking. The palace chefs are considered to be the finest cooks in all the Empire.” The Emperor stated cordially to the delegation.
John Jay smiled slightly, “It was most delectable, Your Majesty. We are once again grateful for this show of hospitality on His Majesty’s part.”
The Emperor gave a slight nod of acknowledgment, “But enough idle talk, for what reason have you come? What is it that you ask of me?” Nikolaos questioned the American intently.
John Jay paused for a moment, wishing to choose the right words for this decisive moment. It fell upon his shoulders to secure the supplies and weapons that America desperately needed from the Emperor, and his failure could very well mean the failure of the revolution itself.
“Your Majesty, we are currently locked in a desperate struggle with Great Britain for our independence. Our people have endured decades of ill treatment at the hands of the British. They refuse to give us our promised representation in their parliament, and yet see it fit to impose taxes upon us. If we dare to protest against this, we are shot dead in the street! Surely Your Majesty has heard about what happened in Boston, seven years ago?” John Jay asked the Emperor, making sure not overstep his bounds.
The Emperor stroked his bearded chin slightly in thought, “You mean the incident in Boston where several colonists were shot dead by British regulars? Yes I have heard of it.” Nikolaos replied calmly.
“Then surely, Your Majesty, you must see the brutality that the British are capable of, the lack of common decency that they display towards us. We truly have been left with no other choice but to sever our ties with the British Crown.” John Jay stated, his voice filled with emotion.
“Perhaps so,” the Emperor continued to stroke his beard as he replied, “but I still fail to see why the Roman Empire should concern itself with a conflict that is at best a foreign dispute, and at worst merely a civil war within Britain’s empire.” He finished.
John Jay could almost feel his heart stop at the Emperor’s reply but he retained his composure, “Your Majesty…Britain, if I am not mistaken, poses a great threat to the Roman Empire’s global interests. If His Majesty were to graciously provide us with the aid that we seek, it would be a great blow to London. The loss of their American colonies would cost them dearly, and I can tell Your Majesty from personal experience that the British do not enjoy sharing power for very long.” He finished, his tone growing dark towards the end.
“And what, precisely, is it that America requires?” The Emperor questioned him, his left eyebrow arching slightly.
John Jay was forced to hold back a smile at this seeming glimmer of hope, “For the moment, all we require is Your Majesty’s recognition that we are indeed a sovereign and independent state, as well as weapons and supplies for our war effort.”
“I see. And the Empire’s participation will of course be taken into account when peace negotiations begin, assuming you are victorious?” Nikolaos asked with growing interest.
The American emissary nodded readily, “Of course, Your Majesty.”
Emperor Nikolaos III leaned back in his chair slightly and chuckled, “Very well then. You may have your recognition and supplies, for now. But if you are unable to reverse your fortunes, we may withdraw our support in order to avoid direct conflict with Britain.” He stated bluntly, wishing to make it clear that he was making no permanent guarantee to support the rebel cause.
“Yes of course, Your Majesty. I completely understand.” John Jay replied eagerly. “I thank Your Majesty for your gracious generosity. I hope that this shall be the start of a long lasting friendship between our two countries.” The American emissary responded with obvious joy.
“Perhaps so. Only time will tell, however…” Nikolaos added quietly as his mind pondered the consequences of his actions. Though ‘allying’ themselves with colonial barbarians felt distasteful, if it offered them an opportunity to greatly weaken Britain then it was worth it. Only the future would tell if Nikolaos made the right choice in supporting a ragtag band of rebels fighting for independence in a far away land…
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The last time an absolute government supported the American Revolution, they had their own revolution in a decade. Hopefully the Empire won't emulate this. Good update, sir!
The enemy of my enemy is my friend...
A marvelous display of the might and grandeur of the eighteenth century Roman Empire, the affects of which, I'm sure, were not to be lost on Jay and his colleagues.
A marvelous display of the might and grandeur of the eighteenth century Roman Empire, the affects of which, I'm sure, were not to be lost on Jay and his colleagues.
That was a very well written post there SeanB! I could really imagine the Roman Empire of the 18th Century in those sentences. The recognition and further support should get France on the bandwagon as well.
This looks like the beginning of the end of the Revolutionary War, or at least one of the beginnings of the end
Go USA and Roman Empire! Destroy the tyrannical British imperialists!!!
This looks like the beginning of the end of the Revolutionary War, or at least one of the beginnings of the end
Go USA and Roman Empire! Destroy the tyrannical British imperialists!!!
Great coupel of updates SeanB.... sorry for not posting for a while but RL has made it hard to use the internet for anything els then RL.
I do hope the emporer knows what he is doing, as others have said the french had s major backlash when they helpt the Americans. But on the other hand this sentence "And the Empire’s participation will of course be taken into account when peace negotiations begin" hints of some substantial colonial gains if the revolt is successful, so it may be worth the risk.
I'll be waiting for the next update.
I do hope the emporer knows what he is doing, as others have said the french had s major backlash when they helpt the Americans. But on the other hand this sentence "And the Empire’s participation will of course be taken into account when peace negotiations begin" hints of some substantial colonial gains if the revolt is successful, so it may be worth the risk.
I'll be waiting for the next update.
Most impressive. There's at least one group at Court that wants little or nothing to do with these Americans.
I, too, wonder exactly what Nikolaos meant by 'taken into account'.
I, too, wonder exactly what Nikolaos meant by 'taken into account'.
Great updates. Can't wait to read more. I'm just thinking that when Napoleon starts to conquer Europe, we'll possibly see a French-Romano alliance against England - and what about Prussia? It's going to be interesting to see which side they'll choose.
What happened to the Varangian Guard, though?
-TGD
What happened to the Varangian Guard, though?
-TGD
Awesome, just superb.
This is definately a good turn. Though in supporting this I fear the Empire will fuel internal unrest as nationalism grows.
This is definately a good turn. Though in supporting this I fear the Empire will fuel internal unrest as nationalism grows.
you shall really move the capital, population and CoT to Rome, Venice or something. You told that's a 'Roman' Empire, not a Constantinopolitan both now never not a Byzantine.
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Move the capital to Rome? Must be a closet republican. For nearly 1500 years now the Roman Empire has been ruled from the City Constantine designated as the Capital. It is the centre of the Roman World.