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See. There have been 3 German invasions of Eastern Europe from 200 BC.
1st time Bastarns. Kolomiytsev writes that the slaves of Bastarns fled from Greece, during the unsuccessful campaign of the Germans and settled on the Dnieper. The slaves themselves were not Germans.
2nd time Cimbri and Teutons. They were repulsed by the Boii tribe.
3rd time Goths.
The name Venets entrenched to the Balts by the name of the disappeared people, once the ruler of Europe.
1st time Bastarns. Kolomiytsev writes that the slaves of Bastarns fled from Greece, during the unsuccessful campaign of the Germans and settled on the Dnieper. The slaves themselves were not Germans.
2nd time Cimbri and Teutons. They were repulsed by the Boii tribe.
3rd time Goths.
The name Venets entrenched to the Balts by the name of the disappeared people, once the ruler of Europe.
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From Manchus like the Japanese and Koreans also occur. Himself recently found out and was surprised
Except they are not. Manchus are younger than both Koreans and Japanese. Koreans might have some Tungusic admixture, but there is no evidence of Japanese being ever in contact with Tungusic populations.
A little bit similar words between Yakut and Japanese:
Japanese-Sakha(Yakut) Ani(senior brother) - Ini(brother) Desu(is) - Den(called) Doko-e(somewhere) - Togo(why) Doshita(what happened) - Toch bolla(what happened) Doshite(why) - Togo, Togo da(why) Hirohisa(extraordinary intelligence) - Kyragy(keen eye) Icha(medic) - Ichen(shaman) Itai(painfully) - Abitai(painfully) Kaeru(return) - Кeli(come), Tennen keli(return) Kaiwa(conversation) - Kepsen (conversation) Kakimasu(writes) - Katchimach(fussiness) Kane(money) - Khatci(money) Katta(won) - Khotto(won) Kei(supremacy) - Kiech(power) Kireina(nice) - Kere(nice) Kita(north) - Khotu(north) Koe(voice) - Kuemei(throat) Kuray(black) - Khara(black) Kyo(today) - Kun(day) Bugun (today) Obaa-chan(grandmother) - Ebe - ken (grandmother) Oboite(recall) - Eyde(recall) Oni(demon), Ani(sin) Sayonara(goodbye) - Sayihi (the constant desire to be together) Saku(sharp) - Syty(sharp) Sanran(radiant) - Sardanga(ray) Shun(superiority) - Tsculu(superiority) Senshi(warrior) - Serihit(warrior), Seri кihite(warrior) So(clearly) - Duo(clearly) Sugoi(excellent) - Uchugei(excellent) Suteki(charming) - Utueken (charming) Tano(another) - Atin(another) Ten(heaven) - Tangara(heaven) Ureshi(gladness) - Ueru(gladness) Ue(upper) - Uehe(upper) Yuugi(dance) - Unku(dance) Yuurei(ghost) - Uer(ghost) Yokatta(cost) - Khata(cost) Yonderu(call) - Ynyry(call)
The image of the Avar (Mazur) war with the Balts (according to V. Kulakov) on the ring from Strobenien (near Königberg), approximately - 8th century. Archer and prostrate warrior depicted with braids
I'm sorry, but this list is useless. Full of errors ("yokatta" doesn't mean "cost", doctor is "isha" not "icha"), contains borrowing from Chinese (yuurei), contains words with inflectional endings. Zero methodology.
Translated from Wikipedia:
The people of ancient
Gojoseon
belonged to the Tungus language family, adjacent to the Altai languages. They were distributed in Manchuria, eastern China, north of the Yangtze River, and on the Korean Peninsula. Kochoson was located just in lower Manchuria and in the north of the Korean Peninsula.
The people of ancient
Gojoseon
belonged to the Tungus language family, adjacent to the Altai languages. They were distributed in Manchuria, eastern China, north of the Yangtze River, and on the Korean Peninsula. Kochoson was located just in lower Manchuria and in the north of the Korean Peninsula.
There is no linguistic proof that language of Gojoseon was Tungusic. Try harder.
I do not know. I'm not strong yet, I will not argue. Took from wikipedia
House Than never was on Chinese throne. "Династия Тан" is Tang Dynasty.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f6/East_Europe_Archaeological_Ancient-Slavs.jpg
As you can notice, not all of them. They include mountains.
Still, after Byzantium, Avar and Langobard campaigns there was not a big population of Gepids there.
Oh, but R1a1 is far more intresting that just "Aryan".
The R1a1, which is specifically slavic now, has origin from Yamna and Corded Ware cultures.
Northern wave of Corded Ware mixed with celts (R1b), northerns (I1) and northern branch of balkan I2. That's Germans, Z283 lineage.
Baltic genetics is different. It's R1a plus N1C1, Fatyanovo–Balanovo culture (like, 3 thousand years ago, Pskov). Still, it's the same M456 lineage as slavic one. The main difference is some south halpogroups, like Balkan I2, Caucasian G2, and African E1b1b; supposedly, it was assimilated from Cucuteni-Tripolye culture (again, western Ukraine and eastern Balkans). The first place to see this mix are Srubna and Trzciniec cultures - which are spreaded through eastern Poland and western Ukraine. They're dated into Later Bronze Ages,18th–10th centuries BC.
Intresting coincedence: Slavic language believed to differ from slavic-balkan unity in the same timeframe.
Of course, it's long ago Avars or even Huns came to Europe.
Strobehnen, if you want german name.
Still, you can find gepid jevelry there as well. Thing is, Mazovia (where Mazurs, who are polish minority and exists today, lived) was a center of trade, selling amber from north, and crafted items from south.
And how many millions of people lived inside the Carpathians and on the Dnieper?
The Dnieper was more densely populated according to your data?
The Dnieper was more densely populated according to your data?
So, the argument here is that the Slavs supposedly didn't originate from Western Ukraine/Belarus like most historians seem to believe but rather through some interaction between the Avars and... Baltic women? And thus the Slavs were born in the Carpathian Basin? And the evidence to support this thesis are literal interpretations of Medieval historians, old tales and stuff like that? Am I getting this right?
I think I'll just keep trusting what the majority of experts are going for these days.
I think I'll just keep trusting what the majority of experts are going for these days.
Population in the 6-7th century.
How werewolves had a population explosion. None other than the witches cursed the Gothic people, condemning them to death for their extermination, they also bred their subjects.
That's what it means to not respect their archaic relatives
Here is what the well-known Russian archaeologist Vladimir Kulakov writes: “The actions of the Avar Kaganat aimed at restoring the ties of the South and the North of Europe as part of the operation of the Amber Road are not reflected in written sources and are being restored solely on archaeological material. spurs of the Carpathian Mountains in the direction of the mouth of the Pregolya River, located in the western part of the Mazury Poozerie (now Olsztyn Voivodeship of Poland) Group 8. This territorially small association, not exceeding 60 kilometers by 60 kilometers on a map, including merchants, artisans and warriors, resumed the southern direction of the Amber Route with a new force. This group arose as a result of a campaign undertaken from the Middle Danube Avars These cavalry warriors, which included in their army also the Lombards and Gepids under their control, occupied the outskirts of the Western Balt lands on the Masurian Lake District. The rite of the Mazur cultural group, while retaining partially the features of the Balt sub-basis, is characterized by features (urns with holes and lids, burnt inventory), which isolate Mazury among the Baltic archeological cultures of the time. The products of local craftsmen found in the graves combine the Baltic traditions and techniques of the Middle Danube. Langobard plate bronze spurs and massive belt lining are directly connected with the south of Europe. In the years 600-650, Antsky miniature finger brooches, Avar belt patches with a “pearl” ornament, combat knives with braces adapted for horizontal hanging to the belt appear on Masuria.
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Your right. But keep in mind that until the 20th century, the Danube hypothesis was dominant
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Nobody knows. But I believe we can make some guesses.
First of all, characteristic number of troops for barbarian (and, actually, for byzantium operations) states were tens of thousands, like 20 thousands being common number (let me not repeat all the sources; I can though). So, it's free to assume that in the middle of 6th century there were, like, 20 thousands of Gepids army. If we believe that it was 1/10 of total population (actually, it would be not really adequate, as barbarian states had better troop/population ratio), and declaring that Gepids and Langobardes were quite similiar on power, we'll got like half a million of german population of Balkans.
Still, if you check Siege of Thessaloniki of 586, you'll notice slavic army of 100 thousand men. Keep in mind, it wasn't some kind of apocaliptical battle, slavic existence wasn't at stake there (at least we don't know nothing about it). Lets cut this number twice (byzantium sources could extarragate to make slavics looked more powerful and miracle saved Thessaloniki more powerful), so, only this army, with the same 1/10 troop/population ratio, gives us 500 000 slavs on Balkans who support moving to Greece. Until you don't believe this people appeared from thin air, I believe the only other option is they already lived there.
Just to compare: Battle of Taginae was a matter of life and death for Ostgoths, and they got 15000 men.
So I believe estimate of something around 2 millions, half a million germans (who were first-class people until Avar destroyed/banished them), million of slavs who was thralls/slaves/subjugated people, and the last half a million being some different guys like greeks. It's for the end of 6th century.
You somehow ignore quite obvious fact - it's you declaring some kind of magical population boost Slavs gain in 6th century. It's in your version some kind of small, unsignificant tribes became a force to cover lands from Volga to Oder and from Baltic to Mediterranean in just a hundred of years. It's in your version somewhy Gepides (or Avars, if you want) took a language of small unsignificant tribe and forced it on germans.
I do tend to believe that science grow, not wither, therefore later theories are more correct that earlier ones. There are reasons why Danube hypothesis was refused, and, actually, Karamzin (it's the beginning of 19th century) already refuse "Tale of Bygone Ages" absolute authority, speaking about Slavs as a people who came from "the depths of Russia, Poland, Lithuania, Prussia", and pointing contradictions is Nestor's evidence, and declaring slavic ethnogenesis a mystery.
It is strange that at the same time lived in Eastern Europe, large animals that died out long ago in another part of Europe: bison, lions, tarpan and primitive bulls. Obviously there was enough space for pasture.