Hollywood said:
Defeat the UK. France will then disappear, replaced instead by the Vichy regime.
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Defeat the UK. France will then disappear, replaced instead by the Vichy regime.
Thanks for the response! Your mod is actually the reason why I "downgraded" and bought original HoI2!
The overall flavor of the mod is awesome, my over-thinking self just didn't think of something as simple as..."Defeat the UK."
Thanks again!
The overall flavor of the mod is awesome, my over-thinking self just didn't think of something as simple as..."Defeat the UK."
Thanks again!
I just wanted to tell everyone that we're still working on 5.0 (slowly but surely).
However, both Jamison and I now have Doomsday, which means that an OFFICIAL DD SMEP will come out shortly after the release of 5.0 for regular HoI2.
Before anyone gets too excited, 5.0 still has a ways to go. To repeat what Jamison has posted before, we need help in a variety of ways:
If you want to beta test what we have so far, send a private message with your e-mail to either of us.
We also need help with possible leaders for newly added nations (such as Catalonia and Macedonia).
And of course, we plan to build a website and need a designer to help out if willing.
However, both Jamison and I now have Doomsday, which means that an OFFICIAL DD SMEP will come out shortly after the release of 5.0 for regular HoI2.
Before anyone gets too excited, 5.0 still has a ways to go. To repeat what Jamison has posted before, we need help in a variety of ways:
If you want to beta test what we have so far, send a private message with your e-mail to either of us.
We also need help with possible leaders for newly added nations (such as Catalonia and Macedonia).
And of course, we plan to build a website and need a designer to help out if willing.
That mean you're going to work with the existing Unofficial DD SMEP?
That seems like the best choice, since they already converted most of the SMEP stuff already.
That seems like the best choice, since they already converted most of the SMEP stuff already.
Hail of Nails said:
There has been much friction between the two, so that has a very very low chance of happening.
A new SMEP 5.0 beta is ready, and I need people to test it who are actually going to test it. Send me an e-mail at atruejedi[@]alltel.net and I will most-likely hook you up if I trust you 
Atruejedi said:A new SMEP 5.0 beta is ready, and I need people to test it who are actually going to test it. Send me an e-mail at atruejedi[@]alltel.net and I will most-likely hook you up if I trust you
I don't know if you trust me and probably I wont be able to play more than once or twice, but if that's enough, let me know.
I've helped do playtesting with TRP so I am willing to help.
Atruejedi said:A new SMEP 5.0 beta is ready, and I need people to test it who are actually going to test it. Send me an e-mail at atruejedi[@]alltel.net and I will most-likely hook you up if I trust you
Afalsejedi said:
You guys just made my day. Japanese Co-Prosperity Sphere, here i come!!
Before i forget, I volunteer for beta testing DD SMEP as soon as you convert it, as i dont have regular hoi2 anymore...
Are you doing anything different with Operation Torch in 5.0? As written it produces bizarre results, like the Vichy army and navy fighting proudly on Nazi Germany's side. A better alternative would be to hand over North Aftica to the USA, metropolitan Vichy France to Germany, Tunisia to Italy, and everything left over to the Free French -- though there's still a problem with getting the AI to respond effectively.
It more or less already works that way. The Allies just have to fight to take North Africa, because it would be kind of lame (and open to exploit) if you only had to take a couple of provinces. Once Morocco and Algeria are taken, Italy will receive Tunisia while Germany annexes mainland Vichy.AlanC9 said:
Sure, once the Allies take those provinces, everything is fixed. The problem is the period between the event firing and the Allies taking the provinces, which has absolutely nothing to do with history.
What typically happens is that you get a long campaign in sub-Saharan Africa, since the Vichy French can access the area from Morocco and Algeria. With the rotten infrastructure down there it can take months for the AI to sort things out. I've seen this campaign drag on for years.
The naval balance in the Mediterranean can also go straight to hell if the Italians are still competitive, though this is less common.
There's also a problem with the Middle East, but the real issue there is that the UK should be attacking Syria and Lebanon a year or so before Torch happens.
I'm not even sure the event helps the Allies. On balance it seems to distract them more than anything else.
Edit: obviously, I'm only concerned with AI Allies. The event is irrelevant to a human Allied player.
What typically happens is that you get a long campaign in sub-Saharan Africa, since the Vichy French can access the area from Morocco and Algeria. With the rotten infrastructure down there it can take months for the AI to sort things out. I've seen this campaign drag on for years.
The naval balance in the Mediterranean can also go straight to hell if the Italians are still competitive, though this is less common.
There's also a problem with the Middle East, but the real issue there is that the UK should be attacking Syria and Lebanon a year or so before Torch happens.
I'm not even sure the event helps the Allies. On balance it seems to distract them more than anything else.
Edit: obviously, I'm only concerned with AI Allies. The event is irrelevant to a human Allied player.
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I have a question regarding SMEP for anyone out there who might have knowledge on this subject: which nations prior to WW2 had significant amounts of communists? Either "legitimate" or underground. I know in Western Europe they were vocal, but what about Eastern Europe and Scandinavia? In other words, which nations would have a communist coup or uprising if they could gain enough popular support (without Soviet help)?
Van der Gent said:
That's right. Around 8% in 1932 and just below 8 in 1936.
In 1940 they got 4%
There were never any real threat of a communist coup in Sweden/Norway/Denmark as far as I know. In Finland however it should have been possible.
Afalsejedi said:
During the time frame of HOI2 there weren't many homegrown Communist parties, because the Great Purge decapitated them all. Stalin viewed international Communist parties as a threat because his nemesis from the 1920's Leon Trotsky headed the "internationalist" wing of the CPSU.
Hungary had a Communist government after WW1 (the Bela Kun regime). It did poorly and was completely discredited by the time it was overthrown, but you could still use it as a possible coup target. Bear in mind Kun, like many other Communist leaders, died during the Purge in 1938. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Béla_Kun
Romania's Communist party was unpopular, mainly due to Bela Kun's Communist Hungary fighting a brief war with Romania in 1919. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_Communist_Party
Yugoslavia's Communists were led by Josip Tito, who of course is in HOI2 already. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/League_of_Communists_of_Yugoslavia
Greece's Communists were driven underground, first by the Metaxas regime, then by the Germans. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Greece
Bulgaria had a homegrown Communist movement under Georgi Dimitrov, a lot of that was due to Bulgaria having a natural affinity with Russia. If I'm not mistaken Bulgaria is already set to go in vanilla HOI2 with a Dimitrov government once it goes leftist. Dimitrov is one of the few European Communist leaders who survived the 1938 purge. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgi_Dimitrov
Finland had very little Communist sympathizers, but the revolters set up in HOI2 are the actual puppet Soviet government in exile that was briefly set up during the Winter War as Stalin flirted with the idea of making Finland a Communist puppet state. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Democratic_Republic
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Talar said:
Actually, the possibility is even less in Finland. The Communists revolted and fought a civil war in 1918 as part of the aftermath of their independence from Russia. They lost, and the Communists fled to the USSR, where most died in the 1930's purges.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_Civil_War
Kuusinen's collaboration with Stalin during the Winter War made Communists even less popular in Finland than they were otherwise.