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They might even be fun for MP... if there wasn't the endless tedium of upgrading province buildings, as many others have already said.
 
Yea, I got it and had none of the games. It was truly a great benefit for me, as I hadn't been able to find Victoria ANYWHERE.
 
I've got TT and CotN bundled with Victoria... :D
 
One fair complaint that could be leveled is that CoTN and TT are practically the same game, with mostly superficial differences. Factor that in if you re in a situation where you are buying them, whether separate or together.
 
sainte-therese said:
One fair complaint that could be leveled is that CoTN and TT are practically the same game, with mostly superficial differences. Factor that in if you re in a situation where you are buying them, whether separate or together.
They are also not supported by Paradox, ie no patches. I wish Paradox would create more complex and intensive regional games. I am not really into "beer and pretzel".
 
CoTN and TT are good games IF you take them for what they are. I doubt that the time that went into making them was much, making them did not keep them from making something else, I would imagine. TT is basically CoTN redone and CoTN, IIRC is Svea Rike III, a game already made, renamed and marketed outside Scandinavia.