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Mostly my fault, although in fairness I a) never expected the second mission to be approved, which totally threw me off and b) I had forgotten spies were automatically set to sabotage.
Could we get some kind of summary on who was who?


Also, I HATE Avalon. The other version with cards has so much more depth, strategy and skill involved. In this one it's more or less just about whether Merlin can convince everyone else without being too obvious.
Can we have the other version next?
 
marty99 said:
Mostly my fault, although in fairness I a) never expected the second mission to be approved, which totally threw me off and b) I had forgotten spies were automatically set to sabotage.
Could we get some kind of summary on who was who?


Also, I HATE Avalon. The other version with cards has so much more depth, strategy and skill involved. In this one it's more or less just about whether Merlin can convince everyone else without being too obvious.
Can we have the other version next?
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The other one has issues, too. I dislike how a sufficient number of upcoming spy leaders and spies holding NCs can effectively force a win on the basis of rejected teams.
 
Cliges said:
The other one has issues, too. I dislike how a sufficient number of upcoming spy leaders and spies holding NCs can effectively force a win on the basis of rejected teams.
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Possible fix: Prevent NC'd teams from counting towards the reject limit?

Might seem like unnecessary complexity, but the way I see it the reject limit is supposed to stop the resistance from simply rejecting every team they see, rather than being a legitimate spy strategy.
 
Panzer Commader said:
Possible fix: Prevent NC'd teams from counting towards the reject limit?

Might seem like unnecessary complexity
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I think it would be, and it could make games last longer. I guess that the theory is that a Resistance player can use it to reject a team likely to pass but feels is likely to pass. Really, I think that such a thing could be put to good use, but the result is that it can be used creatively to help the Spies win by default. It would probably be better and more practical to remove NCs entirely rather than to try and tinker with them.
 
Well, this was quite the game. Who was merlin, anyway?
 
tamius23 said:
Nope.
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Tonka? Madchemist? Clidges? Panzer? I was thinking tonka was merlin, because he accused aedan, even when he hadn't done anything spyish.
 
I was not Merlin.

Was once in a previous game, and hope to never hold that position again!
 
Cliges said:
I was not Merlin.

Was once in a previous game, and hope to never hold that position again!
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My best game was probably when I was Merlin! Also the first Avalon game the resistance won.
 
wasn't me
 
The merlin was madchemist, the second of the two names I recieved.
 
Merlin is hard to play, I think I ran the first Avalon here, and aedan was able to guess Falc (as Merlin) long before the game was approaching the end.
 
Noooo! Why was the staff used??? That's the sort of thing you don't do unless you're 100% certain.

And I was worried I was a way too obvious Merlin. I guess not.
 
Cliges said:
Merlin is hard to play, I think I ran the first Avalon here, and aedan was able to guess Falc (as Merlin) long before the game was approaching the end.
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Yeah, though he basically had to say "I'm Merlin" to stop the village from putting me or another spy on the third team after 2 sabotages.
 
Interesting. I was completely wrong about AsdfeZxcas, and I was quite serious about making him the fifth person (he had the Mordred role, so I didn't know), until the interesting events with tonka. I was actually going to try enforcing Panzer as the fifth person (hence my rejection of this proposal); good to see that would have worked as well.

I'm surprised I wasn't figured out as Merlin from this post

alxeu said:
If you guys must know, I am the Professor of Inclusionary Knowledge. The teams I have accepted have had one of the two names I received on them, and that is why I supported them, to see if I can determine who among the two are the Traditionalists. I will not (really can't, too risky) reveal whom I believe to be which, or, at least, who is the Traditionalist.
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Marty knows he's Morgana, and alxeu rejected a team with him along with Panzer, tonkatoy, and myself, so Merlin is one of the three. If you go back to missions alxeu accepted, he kept saying "he wanted to see something" on missions like Aedan's proposal for mission 2, which had aedan, tamius, and Cliges to go along with me (i.e. I was the only person on both those missions). I actually figured out that marty was Morgana and aedan the assassin from this statement, and I was terribly worried that the spies would be able to do the same from it and determine I was Merlin.
 
I figured you out, and posted so, but I guess no-one was paying attention to me :p

marty99 said:
Madchemist was I believe the Merlin. Could've been tamius but he was being way too open. Also, Alxeu switched his vote from reject to approve once he seen madchemist's post. Unless he meant that as a diversion, but if I had to be I'd say the madchemist.
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I didn't know anyone was Morgana, I don't even know what side Morgana is on...

But once alxeu posted that

The teams I have accepted have had one of the two names I received on them
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I narrowed it down to Cliges, tamius or you. Cliges' voting record was too erratic to be Merlin, and tamius was being for too openly accurate in his analysis (very well done, by the way). And Alxeu initially rejected the last team, but once you made your post approving it, he immediately switched with no explanation. That was the smoking gun.
 
Cliges said:
The other one has issues, too. I dislike how a sufficient number of upcoming spy leaders and spies holding NCs can effectively force a win on the basis of rejected teams.
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But this is just another component of the game, for people to be wary of. I don't recall it ever happening in a game I've played in, and I imagine even the potential for it to occur would be quite rare. It's just another element of strategy, something Avalon completely lacks.
 
alxeu said:
How would everyone feel about a Resistance Game based on the April 14 assassination of Lincoln, and attempted assassinations of Seward and Johnson? I could try to write something up for it, if enough are interested.
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Sounds good. Resistance isn't all that theme-heavy (most of the games have been themeless) so don't think too hard over it.

marty99 said:
I narrowed it down to Cliges, tamius or you. Cliges' voting record was too erratic to be Merlin, and tamius was being for too openly accurate in his analysis (very well done, by the way).
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Thanks. Out-Merlining Merlin :cool:

Why'd you propose the 3-spy team?
 
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