Putting Panzer, Daffius, and Avatar on any future team would be absolutely insane. The only discrepancy between aedan's proposal and mine was switching panzer for aedan. Aedan's proposal (which was the obvious correct proposal, namely people that hadn't okayed that second failed mission and the two scanned goodies) failed 5-5. 4 people switched votes away from this team, (Avatar, Ironhead, Panzer, and Daffius), and the failed mission was passed 8-2. (I thought Daffius voted no on my proposal, but madchemist's update indicates otherwise - PM vote?) Panzer took the no confidence card from Falc, threatened to veto any mission except one with him on it, and gets an 8-2 vote for a mission with one sabotage. He then proceeds to waste Open up, an extremely powerful card, on Daffius, which gives us precisely 0 provable information at a critical time in the game, rather than breaking the Falc/Ironhead deadlock or figuring out if Jackson or I sabotaged the 3rd mission.
I was wondering how you'd hand that out. It's an important card, and we want to maximize information from it. Thus giving it to Ironhead or Falc would be most useful, since we'd then have more information on their claims so far. Instead you give it to Daffius, who hasn't been on a single passed team and thus having someone claim his allegiance gives us little information. I'll also point out how illogical Daffius has been with his actions so far. He claims he never wanted Deathbywombat on a team to begin with, yet he just approved the team proposed by Deathbywombat, containing Deathbywombat. Though he had rejected the previous team proposed by me also containing Deathbywombat, yet lacking Panzer. And now he's utterly convinced that Panzer, audren, and Jacksonian are confirmed resistance. I'm having a real hard time not seeing this as confirmation that Daffius and Panzer are spies. This would also mean one of Falc and Ironhide must also be a spy, since Daffius wouldn't want to out himself to a resistance member. Or maybe he does, so he can claim Ironhide or Falc is a confirmed spy for "lying" about his role. Suffice to say, I'm rejecting any team with Panzer or Daffius on it.
Exactly this. I'd like to add that Avatar voted down aedan's mission, claiming that "all members having been accused with varying degrees of support of being a spy," (#129)
and then accepts 3/4 of the same team the next round. That's either sloppy, sloppy spy play, or lunacy.
Avatar, Daffius, and Panzer are all likely spies (or one of them is cosplaying as an intellectual dumpster fire), with Ironhide or Falc as the 4th probable spy. At this point, I'd say Falc is more likely to be innocent than Ironhead - Panzer Commander swiped a no confidence card from him, and Ironhead voted for the failed mission while Falc voted against it.
Regardless, this team should be clean:
Audren
Jacksonian Missionary
DeathbyWombat
Aedan
Ironhide G1
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