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Ok, Jeray is resistance so I know two out of three members on this team are resistance. Wary of Tamius, but I'm increasingly convinced the spy team is Jacksonian, Tornadoli, and Falc.
Voting by PM
Voting by PM
Also, Falc and Jeray have to be resistance, as Aedan and Tamius are spies and the saboteur is either Health or Torn. Wouldn't terribly surprise me if Torn was one, because I could imagine that Aedan would name at least one actual spy in his spy team.
Jacksonian is a likely spy because of aedan and tamius' say so. They'd both have to be spies for him to be resistance.
aedan confirms that I'm resistance.
Tornadoli is a likely spy for irrationally trusting Jacksonian.
Falc is a likely spy for not putting himself on his proposal, possibly because he's a spy and Tornadoli's a spy and Falc knew Tornadoli would sabotage.
That would make the spy team Falc-Tornadoli-Jacksonian.
So that might not convince you Falc since you're one of the named spies, but it would then depend on whether you personally think tamius or Health is the more likely spy. If you think Health is, then you should still vote approve.
Ah, I had forgotten that with 7 people it's only a 3-man proposal... So I don't absolutely need to be on.
Why does my trust of Jacksonian make me a likely spy? If I was a spy, I would have just voted for the team consisting of me, tamius, and aedan, and sabotaged it and blamed it on aedan and/or tamius. Why would I intentionally put another spy on my team, and risk two sabotages?
Nono, I am not a spy. I made an honest mistake with Jacksonian, I thought I was being played by aedan and tamius. To be fair, it is still possible that Health was the one who sabotaged my team, but at the moment, the probabilities are stacked against Jacksonian, so that's my working hypothesis. That makes aedan a very likely resistance member (not certain by any means - there could have been two spies), which makes tamius a likely resistance member, and jeray (as aedan confirmed him to be resistance). Yes, that would mean that Falc (a spy in my scenario) proposed a clean team - but so what? Could have been done to gain credibility.
So, I think it's likely that the spy team is Falc, Health, Jacksonian. Looking at Falc's team proposal (which I now assume was clean), look who voted against it - Jacksonian and Health.
Nono, I am not a spy. I made an honest mistake with Jacksonian, I thought I was being played by aedan and tamius. To be fair, it is still possible that Health was the one who sabotaged my team, but at the moment, the probabilities are stacked against Jacksonian, so that's my working hypothesis. That makes aedan a very likely resistance member (not certain by any means - there could have been two spies), which makes tamius a likely resistance member, and jeray (as aedan confirmed him to be resistance). Yes, that would mean that Falc (a spy in my scenario) proposed a clean team - but so what? Could have been done to gain credibility.
So, I think it's likely that the spy team is Falc, Health, Jacksonian. Looking at Falc's team proposal (which I now assume was clean), look who voted against it - Jacksonian and Health.
Right then. I'm currently really sleepy so I might miss something really obvious. However this team seems rather okay for me. Whilst I still hold some degree of doubt concerning aedan, the other two seem to be okay.
APPROVE
APPROVE
So Tornadoli is voting for this team, while he's not on it...
Option 1, he's a Spy. Makes this team 100% suspicious.
Option 2, he's not a Spy. But neither am I. So there's no way the team is clean.
Any other Resistance member, unless you are on the team, feel free to repeat this thought process for yourself, you'll come to the same conclusion.
Sorry Tornadoli, but if you keep your vote like that I must
REJECT
Option 1, he's a Spy. Makes this team 100% suspicious.
Option 2, he's not a Spy. But neither am I. So there's no way the team is clean.
Any other Resistance member, unless you are on the team, feel free to repeat this thought process for yourself, you'll come to the same conclusion.
Sorry Tornadoli, but if you keep your vote like that I must
REJECT
Yeah spy team is Tam/Aedan/Torn. Falc I don't need to be on this team but it has to be you, health, and Jeray. That will pass.
I've had a little think about it, then realised that it's totally impossible for this team to fail. I know Aedan's resistance, and he says Jeray's resistance, and he has no reason to lie.
APPROVE
APPROVE
Hah
Jeray's proposal(Jeray, Aedan, Tamius) was approved 4-3:
Approve: Jeray - Aedan - Health - Tamius
Reject: Jacksonian - Falc - Tornadoli
The mission was sabotaged twice.
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And the game thus ends in a decisive spy victory(Resistance Stalingrad?). I'll announce who the spies were later, in case anyone wants to take a guess at that now.
I know what I was doing... I tried to bait the real spies.
Well, sabotaged twice, so the spies are probably tamius, aedan, and health. Health because he wasn't on the team and voted for it. Thoughts?
Sorry Jacksonian, but I had little information to go on and it did seem more likely you were lying than aedan and tamius.
Congratulations to the spies Tornadoli, Aedan and Tamius! (I think... If I haven't made any mistake this time...)
Is this our first 3-0 victory? It doesn't sound like it should be that rare but I can't remember any and I've been in most games.
No GM survey this time but a single question: I used to send a simple "Noted" or "Alright" or whatever as a response whenever someone sent a vote or order by PM to let them know it was counted, but then I figured that that should be the default anyway and that I'd rather not spam people's inboxes so I started not answering any conversations. However Tornadoli pointed out to me that he would rather have me answer even if it's a simple "Noted" every time so he knows that his votes/order have indeed been taken into account. Thoughts?
Or basically, just a vote: Should the GM or should the GM not let players know with a PM reply that they have written down their votes/orders when they have?
(I should also say, another thing that I do not reply to is players' thoughts on the game since anything I might say could influence the game and I cannot do that, but I do really enjoy getting them and the insight they give so please don't mistake my silence for disinterest there)
Is this our first 3-0 victory? It doesn't sound like it should be that rare but I can't remember any and I've been in most games.
No GM survey this time but a single question: I used to send a simple "Noted" or "Alright" or whatever as a response whenever someone sent a vote or order by PM to let them know it was counted, but then I figured that that should be the default anyway and that I'd rather not spam people's inboxes so I started not answering any conversations. However Tornadoli pointed out to me that he would rather have me answer even if it's a simple "Noted" every time so he knows that his votes/order have indeed been taken into account. Thoughts?
Or basically, just a vote: Should the GM or should the GM not let players know with a PM reply that they have written down their votes/orders when they have?
(I should also say, another thing that I do not reply to is players' thoughts on the game since anything I might say could influence the game and I cannot do that, but I do really enjoy getting them and the insight they give so please don't mistake my silence for disinterest there)
Yeah, like I said, a simple "noted" can prevent bad feelings later on.
Congrats to my fellow spies, I think we played it well, 3-0 is nothing to be scoffed at.
Any thoughts Panzer? GM AAR?
Congrats to my fellow spies, I think we played it well, 3-0 is nothing to be scoffed at.
Any thoughts Panzer? GM AAR?