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Dude...

You're doing the same as Cymsdale. That's two people different from the round 4 team. This is no good and really makes me think you're a Spy.

The No Confidence cards are with me and Xarkan, they should be rather safe. Kiwi has Strong Leader. If Kiwi's a Spy, then he'll use it now to prevent me from proposing something that stands a chance of being all-Resistance, in which case we'll be down to the wire with Doom Lord's proposal.

REJECT

Yeah, I think at this point I'll accept anything that is not a stupid team. Getting tired of it.

Reject

For future proposers, these are the possible spy teams. Look at your proposal, and check who is 'not' on the team. If the three names do not make up one of the following, you are doing it wrong.

GCD
CLX CLK
CLD CLT
LFD
 
For future proposers, these are the possible spy teams. Look at your proposal, and check who is 'not' on the team. If the three names do not make up one of the following, you are doing it wrong.

If you analysis is true (and I'm not saying it is), then the spy team is LFD. Falc is a spy, and that's the only one with Falc on it.

Which would make the latest proposal pretty cheeky.
 
Cymsdale, you've been informed why your proposal did not make a shred of sense and you haven't responded to that. You really think there's anyone left who believes you over me?
 
Cymsdale, you've been informed why your proposal did not make a shred of sense and you haven't responded to that. You really think there's anyone left who believes you over me?

Ehhh, the game has been strewn out so long I could accept that he just didn't think his proposal through all the way.

Granted, I still believe that Cyms is the spy, but I wouldn't count you out completely. ;)
 
Note that my gripe is about the total lack of response once it was pointed out, not the fact that he made that proposal. Anyone can slip up. But if it was an honest mistake, you admit to it and move on.here, we've had no response whatsoever and it doesn't look like Cliges will comment on the fact that he did the same either.
 
I laid out the core criteria I care about and simply made a quick proposal based on that. Once Falc ruined the game I saw no reason to waste much mental effort analyzing.

It's a cheap way to win, but it's certainly not against the rules or anything. It seems resistance can only stand a chance if they dumb-luck a winning team. It's an uphill battle, because you not only have to logic out the proper team, you have to convince everyone to trust you. Spies don't have to do any outsmarting or clever play, they just throw bombs out and sit back for the win.
 
Note that my gripe is about the total lack of response once it was pointed out, not the fact that he made that proposal. Anyone can slip up. But if it was an honest mistake, you admit to it and move on.here, we've had no response whatsoever and it doesn't look like Cliges will comment on the fact that he did the same either.

I had my purposes, though there's not much use saying what they were. Suffice to say, I knew the team would be rejected, and that probably any team I proposed would be rejected.
 
Reject

Another pointless team proposal.

Dude...

You're doing the same as Cymsdale. That's two people different from the round 4 team. This is no good and really makes me think you're a Spy.

The No Confidence cards are with me and Xarkan, they should be rather safe. Kiwi has Strong Leader. If Kiwi's a Spy, then he'll use it now to prevent me from proposing something that stands a chance of being all-Resistance, in which case we'll be down to the wire with Doom Lord's proposal.

REJECT

I was under the impression Strong Leader had to be played before the round's plot cards were drawn. In any case, I have no intention of playing it.
 
I'm thinking we just repeat the last successful team, Falc. Cliges knew he could have been successful if he'd just swapped himself for Gliomarto, and didn't. He's lost his chance, we may as well just go with it and see what Gliomarto was up to. Xarkan, do you agree with that?
 
Why would I swap myself for an outed Spy? :mellow:

I liked to repeat that, so far as memory holds, no one has ever lied about a role revealed to them through a card. When I GMed game 3, even the Spies were honest about mentioning who the other Spy was when they had card info to divulge. While lying is so underhanded and charlatan-like that I wish I had been the first to do it, and WOULD HAVE, if it were ever to have been to my advantage, I'm giving it to you straight here.

While at this stage, I think we're just more or less waiting for a team with a Spy to be approved and have an inevitable Resistance loss, I'll simply state that if we lose (and I'm all but entirely certain we will) a large portion of the responsibility will rest on those Resistance members who were silly enough to not heed me.
 
Why would I swap myself for an outed Spy? :mellow:

I liked to repeat that, so far as memory holds, no one has ever lied about a role revealed to them through a card. When I GMed game 3, even the Spies were honest about mentioning who the other Spy was when they had card info to divulge. While lying is so underhanded and charlatan-like that I wish I had been the first to do it, and WOULD HAVE, if it were ever to have been to my advantage, I'm giving it to you straight here.

While at this stage, I think we're just more or less waiting for a team with a Spy to be approved and have an inevitable Resistance loss, I'll simply state that if we lose (and I'm all but entirely certain we will) a large portion of the responsibility will rest on those Resistance members who were silly enough to not heed me.

You did swap yourself in for the spy you outed, but you also swapped a second player. We'd already said there must be no more than one change, as if we were wrong about two people last time we'd have lost then. We were actually in a really great position to win the game, but either Gliomarto is resistance and stuffed it up by passing the card to you, or you're resistance and stuffed it up by proposing an impossible team. Or possibly Gliomarto is innocent and Falc is a spy, but there's literally nothing we can do about that now. If that's the case, it's Cymsdale who blew our last chance of winning by proposing an impossible team with two changes.

If all you'd done was swap yourself in for Gliomarto, you could well have passed the team. I don't know who'd have won, but it would have been the better option for you whatever sider you're on.
 
Cliges's proposal of:
Cliges
Capt. Kiwi
Falc
Xarkan
Doom Lord​


Was rejected 1-7 as follows:

Approve: Cliges
Reject: Gliomarto, Cymsdale, Falc, Tamius, Xarkan, Doom Lord, Capt Kiwi

Three teams have now been rejected.

Falc is the new leader and may now propose a team.
 
Okay, I'm at work so my proposal will have to wait a bit.

Here's what I can say already:

Cymsdale isn't going.
Cliges neither.

I am going.

Further individual analysis if I find time for it, but you're all welcome to chime in.
 
Propose Falc-Tamius-Kiwi-Xarkan-gliomarto. (Doom Lord is almost certainly the other spy, as you can see from round 3.)
 
Just a note. If you understand Cliges is a spy — you have to understand I am not, since we can't be both spies at once.
 
Yeah, no real choice. If I assume the round 2 mission team that was successful is clean, then DL has to be the one who sabotaged round 3.

I PROPOSE:

FALC
TAMIUS
KIWI
XARKAN
GLIOMARTO