Tinto Maps #7 Anatolia Feedback

[Gianvitus]

Are you maybe referring to the colored wastelands on the political mapmode? If that's the case, it's a setting that the player can select; the first two maps are the countries with and without colored mapmode, for comparison.

No, I'm referring to the tiny mountains or trees you can see in the political map mod (with or without colored wastelands), while in arabia tinto map (e.g.) there was just plane colours without any decoration

 

[Pavía]

Also, I don't know if this was already a thing, but the game shortens names now?

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Since some time ago, yes.

 

[Pavía]

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Lol, we'll correct, thanks.

 

[matfer13]

Tengri Turkey has powerful meme potential.

Damn right it does, we just need someone to edit this guys face on top of Ataturk's head

 

[Kaspar Osraige]

Well, some of my suggestions made it in, I am glad to have been helpful. Had a lot of fun. Thanks to the devs for giving me the opportunity to help.

 

[Pavía]

No, I'm referring to the tiny mountains or trees you can see in the political map mod (with or without colored wastelands), while in arabia tinto map (e.g.) there was just plane colours without any decoration

Oh, that. It depends on the level of zoom.

 

[SuperLexxe]

Hello everybody, and welcome to another Tinto Maps feedback review! Today we will be taking a look at Anatolia. As a foreword, when we tackled the review, we found that in general terms, the region was in a pretty good state. Therefore, the scope of it was more in line with the review of Italy, than with the massive review of Tinto Maps #4 (and we could do it faster). Here you are the log with the entire list of changes (which is juicy enough, nonetheless), as usual:

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Reposted with new changes here: https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/tinto-maps-7-anatolia-feedback.1702644/post-29889103

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[Froonk]

Thanks for adding more horses and wine, it is truly the two best things in life.

 

[matfer13]

Intresting, is there a reason why all the Turkomen pops are Shia now? From what I gather they are supposed to be the semi-nomadic turkik people who don't want to settle and abandon the old ways comapred to the turkish who have settled, so why is their religion different?

 

[Pavía]

From what it looks like to me, the Eretnids share colour with the Jalayirids, except in dynastic map. So it is likely they are subordinate to the Jalayirids. Same goes for the Sutayids colour.

I may correct myself, and yes, Eretnids are subjects of the Jalayirids.

 

[Pavía]

Is it a beylik, an emirate? I've never heard of it as a "country"

Beylikate, yes.

 

[Froonk]

Question, are the Shi'ites Alevi? I generally agree with representing all Turcoman populations as Alevi, but there really should be a distinction from Orthodox Shi'ite since Alevism was quite heterodox. Alevis in Anatolia and where Turcomans are in general (Which would also be the main followers of Shah Ismail of Safavids) and Alawites in Syria are important to represent I believe. It would also be cool if Janissaries could be represented as Alevi as well.

Similarly, I hope religions will have a representation of Orthodox and Heterodox split, with former being a conformation to state religion and latter being not so.

 

[Teutonic_Knight_2000]

Great job!

Can't wait for Balkans & Carpathians Feedback! - can we expect a similar scale of changes as in Poland Feedback???

Does this mean that the next region in line is Russia???

 

[matfer13]

@Pavía no pops nor market maps?

 

[Froonk]

Am I seeing it wrong from colors but are the Greeks in around Cappadocia Pontic rather than Cappadocian? It might be a color illusion but it would be strange indeed. I would personally put the separation of Cappadocian and Pontic Greeks at provinces of Bozok and Sivas, with those areas and north of it being Pontic and south of it being Cappadocian.

 

[Pavía]

Question, are the Shi'ites Alevi? I generally agree with representing all Turcoman populations as Alevi, but there really should be a distinction from Orthodox Shi'ite since Alevism was quite heterodox. Alevis in Anatolia and where Turcomans are in general (Which would also be the main followers of Shah Ismail of Safavids) and Alawites in Syria are important to represent I believe. It would also be cool if Janissaries could be represented as Alevi as well.

Similarly, I hope religions will have a representation of Orthodox and Heterodox split, with former being a conformation to state religion and latter being not so.

We yet have to implement the different branches of Shiism.

 

[matfer13]

I may be wrong but some of the provinces seem to be divided by wastelands also that's a big ass Konya province! It's like 16 locations

 

[Pavía]

@Pavía no pops nor market maps?

Not many changes for those.

 

[Spion.dv]

Nice changes. Can we expect that the colours of the cultures will change as discussed in the original Anatolia Tinto Map? The light colours are difficult to distinguish, especially with all the minorities.

Thanks for all the work!

 

[qaqq2q2]

Hmmm, Western Anatolia feels a little jarring, especially since it's the only area with that scheme

But I cannot think of a good alternative. If you were going off the Roman names (as seems to be the case eastwards) it would be Asia, which would probably be confusing.

Anyone else got any ideas?

Lydia would fit better IMO