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true i do not veiw this as cheating ...unless you using save/reloads to get desired results for anything..that is definately cheating...

i had a case with netherlands..i saw france under seige by rebels all over so i attacked hoping to grab picardie, cauz and normandie..those were what i wanted and i wasnt gonna accept anytihng less...i took capitol and the provs i wanted plus 2 others and asked for peace...no go wouldnt give them to me...i took another 2 provs..still no go...went on and on till i held all but 7 provs...4 in austria which the rebels held, province, and 2 in spain...the last 3 being under seige by me..i ask again she says no then whammo government falls and i end up with it all..and the headaches that came with it were not worth it i tell you.. note the way this could be viewed as cheating is it doesnt add bad boy..0 pts gained from it despite sheer number of provs and fact i dowed them without cb etc..0 badboy..in this way perhaps you could view it as a cheat sicne it enables heavy expansion without real penalty...

other case was as poland i had all russia conquered minus osterbottom which was under seige...when i get message gov falls and i get all but osterbottom, archangelsk and her capitol...thats what russia gets for refusing my terms...but again i gaiend no badboy for it although i did have cb against them..but still i took a lot of provs and no badboy increase there were no rebels in this case i think it has to do with refusing to accept peace...i played scottland once where england ran me over like a freight train early..and i got peace offers i kept refusing..then i get another and message saying it would be very bad to refuse the poeople might revolt etc...perhaps refusing that would cause gov to fall? and this being what computer did ...and the rest of world sees their stupidity in not accepting the demands so they dont censure the victor..afterall the people of the nation hit chose the victor didnt they?
 
Originally posted by dralizaar
i think it has to do with refusing to accept peace...i played scottland once where england ran me over like a freight train early..and i got peace offers i kept refusing..then i get another and message saying it would be very bad to refuse the poeople might revolt etc...perhaps refusing that would cause gov to fall? and this being what computer did ...and the rest of world sees their stupidity in not accepting the demands so they dont censure the victor..afterall the people of the nation hit chose the victor didnt they?
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You're right about the refusals to negotiate peace: that has an effect. Not getting BB points for snagging 12 provinces at a time is just a bug ... if you exploit a bug deliberately, you could be classed as cheating, but trying to enforce the collapse of a government isn't cheating in itself. (If you want to use this tactic "honestly" then edit your savefile to increase your BB value for each province you acquire, I guess.)
 
One could argue that the rebelling provinces actually decide to join you, to escape from their oppressive governments...so you are not a Bad Boy but a Liberator! Didn't Austria expand that way historically...

However I still don't know what triggers the fall of a government. Maybe it is the combination of losing many provinces to revolts and a -3 stability?
 
Fall of government

The government will fall under these conditions, as far as I know:

1) Rebels must sack capital province.

2) Rebels must control a certain number of provinces of the country. This varies by country, and I do not know how it interrelates to provinces you have occupied from the enemy.

The rebels do not even have to come from the country in question. I saw Hanover's government fall because rebels from Dutch Nationalism wandered over, defeated Hanovber's army, then sacked the province! As Hanover only had one province, their government fell right away, even though they were at +3 stability! This means that stability itself isnt the factor, other than low stability means lower revolt risk.
 
Originally posted by Magister
I agree with Azov - I've learnt so much from the boards, much more than from the manual.
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That wouldn't be too hard-the manual's more like a badly organised history book than a game-playing aid!:)
 
I think that a government can even fall if everything is still OK with its capital. Portugal rebelled about five times until I found out that many colonies (and nothing else) were rebelling...

And by the way making every country annexable isnt cheating, just like playing a minor instead of the big boys isnt cheating. Making every country annexable is more like fixing a bug.
 
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