Turn end times crazy long with latest patch?

[qvcatullus]

I admit that I didn't buy the game until recently, and I hear that one of the old complaints about the game was the long transition times between screens and turns. I had a few days to play and didn't really notice it, so I thought that either it had gotten better or maybe it just wasn't a problem on my computer. Then... the latest patches came out (2.0.24759 I think, main and hotfix), and wow.
I click 'end turn' and then I find something else to do. I've been getting back into my Hugo reading, because I have time for a chapter or so of Les Miserables while I wait for the game to unfreeze. It's particularly depressing because I'm only around turn 50 or so and I figure that if it's an AI thing, it will only get worse as the alien empires grow. Seriously, I feel like I could SAVE time playing multiplayer. Started another game (and oh, how long it takes to fiddle with all the settings I want for a brand new game, and heaven forbid I forget to extend combat turn time or something or it's back to the drawing board, but that's a different fight...) and issue persists.
Admittedly, I'm playing a big map with a full 8 players, but that's because that's how I like to play space opera games. So I guess I can play a smaller game and have less fun, wait and see if the turn end times get optimized some, or go back to playing something else, like SOTS 1. Which I loved, which is why I am trying to give this one a chance.

 

[Ulzgoroth]

Is that heavily overstated, or are you really sitting for several minutes per turn?

I'm noticing it's pretty slow, but nowhere near that slow in my play.

 

[roman566]

6 minutes.

 

[qvcatullus]

Most turns, anything between 2-5 minutes, when I bother to time it. I have had at least one that seemed much longer but I didn't think to time it -- I honestly read a chapter of a book, looked up, and it still hadn't come out with the new turn. That's actually what annoyed me enough to start noting the time on the delay.

 

[Ulzgoroth]

My turn times are long enough that I keep a book handy and I do recall one stand-out that was much longer than the others...but I'm pretty sure they're still not as slow as what you're seeing. I guess I should specifically time some though.

I expect it's just that the AIs really eat that much processing time. Kerberos wants to optimize that, I'm sure, but optimization is probably not the current priority in AI work...

 

[halthasar]

I also have crazy long turns, i've gotten to playing the game windowed so i can do something else, anything else, inbetween the turns.

some as long as 10 minutes.

 

[desiriel]

Too bad. I was waiting for the optimized AI to play again this game but it seems that we often get a step forward and two backward.

 

[Ulzgoroth]

Too bad. I was waiting for the optimized AI to play again this game but it seems that we often get a step forward and two backward.

Uh, the last major patch was a rollout of big new AI developments with specific notes that this would come with a performance hit.

 

[unmerged(201662)]

From the horses mouth, hopefully this will give some hope. lol

It can not update during the player's turn as it can interrupt the player's actions (eg: cause lags switching screens because you have to wait for the AI to complete a task, could cause crashes as the AI could get interrupted when the player changes states). Its not like a human player in multiplayer as the other player has a second computer and runs independently from the host.
Just a heads up, I did find another major issue causing the turn updates to be so slow and it will be fixed in the next update (hopefully tomorrow/friday).
Was testing and had a 6 player map on turn 96, hit end turn and it took almost 2 minutes (a little slower as we have a special debug mode that maintains a lot more information to allow us to find the areas of code that causes issues). Then after the fix, the update was 30 seconds...

Thanks,

 

[cloaked]

Sweet!

I'm playing with the ".4" patch. I've got an 8 player map where turns USED to take about 4 min 30 seconds. Now, they take about 1 min 10 seconds.

Uhh, I'll take it. Thanks, guys.

 

[cloaked]

Ohh. I just wanted to add that I'm 156 turns into the game as well.

 

[hasoos]

Very long

They are very long and it can't be a surprise to anybody. If you just start an 8 man game and hit end turn on turn one you can tell its going to suck bad. I played about 18 turns before I turned it off and waited for another patch.

 

[unmerged(201662)]

Playing on the Heavens Map, with 8 players (well me and 7 AI), was getting slightly more then 2 minute turns at 130ish turns. Now I'm getting under a minute, works fine for me and I'm in the 150's. It's a turn based game after all.

 

[Ulzgoroth]

I'm getting pretty short turns now too, 250 turns into an 8-player game on Frontiers. Granted that 3 players have dropped at this point, it's still not bad.