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I was just playing as the U.S. and enticed an early secession in 1854. Having quickly won the war and establishing a harsh reconstruction policy in 1855, slavery was abolished and the dixie culture was left at about 2 percent of my total population (I suppose all those drafts killed them off and the slave evolution replaced them).

A year later, however, I had the Bleeding Kansas thing fire. While it is insignificant, it seems unhistoric to me to have the various events that foreshadowed the Civil War occur after the actual Civil War is already over.

Could someone modify the USA events list to add a trigger of some sort so that all those events fire only if the Civil War one hasn't?
 
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The only scripted even that needs to be changed, as it seems, is the Bleeding Kansas one, 14117. All others, such as the compromise of 1850, occur prior to the earliest date for early Southern secession (at least in vanilla).

I would also ask for the random events of "Slavery Hotly Debated In ..." to be edited so that they cannot appear after the Civil War. For some reason they kept popping up throughout the elections in the 60s.

Lastly, the Democratic and American parties, after the Civil War, retain the issue of slavery as their minority. I don't know if this is supposed to be that way, but it would seem to me that if slavery was declared illegal after the war then slavery should be eliminated as an issue overall.
 
Sadseh said:
The only scripted even that needs to be changed, as it seems, is the Bleeding Kansas one, 14117. All others, such as the compromise of 1850, occur prior to the earliest date for early Southern secession (at least in vanilla).

I would also ask for the random events of "Slavery Hotly Debated In ..." to be edited so that they cannot appear after the Civil War. For some reason they kept popping up throughout the elections in the 60s.

Lastly, the Democratic and American parties, after the Civil War, retain the issue of slavery as their minority. I don't know if this is supposed to be that way, but it would seem to me that if slavery was declared illegal after the war then slavery should be eliminated as an issue overall.
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That is one of the big problems with Vanilla Vicky and the ACW--if you don't get Reconstruction (which means keeping the war going until 1864 elections and Lincoln wins and Lincoln gets assassinated events), you are stuck with slavery and the slave issue the rest of the game.
 
In vanilla, "Reconstruction" doesn't fire. Ever. The way the triggers for it work render them mutually exclusive. And if the war starts early, things get even weirder. Too bad, really :(

:) Rafiki
 
Sadseh said:
Having quickly won the war and establishing a harsh reconstruction policy in 1855, slavery was abolished and the dixie culture was left at about 2 percent of my total population (I suppose all those drafts killed them off and the slave evolution replaced them).
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I think even the dixie POPs get assimilated at some point.

Anyway, this and the problem with reconstruction are essentially bugs in the event triggers.

--> Bug forum
 
Sadseh said:
The only scripted even that needs to be changed, as it seems, is the Bleeding Kansas one, 14117. All others, such as the compromise of 1850, occur prior to the earliest date for early Southern secession (at least in vanilla).
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I'll take a look tomorrow, I'm rather sick at the moment. I have made a new trigger for reconstruction though, you can get it in Memnon's patch thread.
 
I belive I'm already using someone trigger patch for the reconstruction. Found it at the recent reconstruction thread in general discussions. It may be found on the last page and it specifies that the reconstruction fires when the civil war occurred and the confederacy is non-existent.

As for the slavery thing being persistent if Lincoln is not assasinated, shouldn't that trigger be fixed to fire after the Civil War occurred and Confederacy is defeated, much like the reconstruction event?

For example:

Event 14119; American Civil War ->

Events 14142-14159; Various States Join the South ->

Event 14161; Countrymen Again? ->

Event 14181; Lincoln Asassinated (make this event independent of the elections of 1864, as I'm sure he'd be assasinated by a Confederate supporter regardless of it) ->

Event 14182; Reconstruction

The last two should be triggered by event 14161 and independent of each other.

Any problems with that?
 
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