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From http://www.bosamar.com/dd557.html, a description of the last battle of USS Johnston, DD-557. This was probably the finest USN single ship-action of the war:

Following replenishment at Seeadler Harbor, Manus, in the Admiralty Islands, JOHNSTON sailed on 12 October 1944 to Leyte Gulf for the invasion of the Philippines. In the company of the FLETCHER Class destroyers HOEL and HEERMANN, she helped screen Carrier Division 25's four CVE's to Leyte. Arriving on station on 17 October, they joined Carrier Division 26's two CVE's and their screen of four destroyer escorts. The collective force of six escort carriers, three destroyers, and four destroyer escorts was assigned to Task Group 77.4; one of three task units, Task Unit 77.4.3, radio call sign, Taffy III.

On the morning of October 25, 1944, without warning, JOHNSTON and Taffy III were set upon by the Imperial Japanese Navy Centre Force. During the previous night, this powerful enemy force of 4 battleships, six heavy cruisers, two light cruisers, and two squadrons of destroyers had slipped through San Bernardino Strait undetected.

One of the pilots flying patrol reported the approach of the Japanese Centre Force steaming straight for Taffy III. JOHNSTON's Gunnery Officer, LT Robert C. Hagen, later reported, "...we felt like little David without a slingshot." Soon after contact, JOHNSTON was zigzagging between the escort carriers and the Japanese fleet, laying a smoke screen to hide the American task unit from the enemy. For the first twenty minutes the large caliber Japanese battleship and heavy cruiser guns fired upon with Americans without fear of reprisal, the range being too great for the American 5-inch guns. "...even as we began laying smoke, the Japanese started lobbing shells at us and the JOHNSTON had to zigzag between the splashes....we were the first destroyer to make smoke, the first to start firing, the first to launch a torpedo attack...."

As the range closed, JOHNSTON opened her 5-inch battery on the nearest cruiser, scoring damaging hits. About this time an 8-inch shell landed right off her bow, its red dye splashing the face of JOHNSTON Gunnery Officer. He mopped the dye from his eyes while remarking, "Looks like somebody's mad at us!" In five furious minutes, JOHNSTON pumped 200 rounds at the enemy, then Commander Evans gave the order to fire the torpedoes. The destroyer got off a full salvo of ten fish then whipped around to retire behind a heavy smoke screen. When she came out of the smoke a minute later, Japanese cruiser KUMANO could be seen burning furiously from torpedo hits. KUMANO later sank. Shortly thereafter, JOHNSTON took three 14-inch shell hits from a battleship followed closely by three 6-inch shells from a light cruiser. "It was like a puppy being smacked by a truck. The hits resulted in the loss of all power to the steering engine, all power to the three 5-inch guns in the after part of the ship, and rendered our gyro compass useless." Through "sheer providence" a rainstorm came up; and JOHNSTON "ducked into it" for a few minutes of rapid repairs and salvage work.

At 0750, Admiral Sprague ordered the destroyers to make a torpedo attack. But JOHNSTON had already expended her full compliment of ten torpedoes. With one engine, she couldn't keep up with the others "...but that wasn't Commander Evans' way of fighting; 'we'll go in with the destroyers and provide fire support,' he boomed." JOHNSTON went in, dodging salvoes and blasting back with her 5-inch guns. As she charged out of blinding smoke, the ship was pointed straight at the bridge of the gallant task unit destroyer HEERMANN (DD 532), "All engines back full!" was ordered by Commander Evans. That meant one engine for JOHNSTON who could hardly do more than slow down. HEERMANN's two engines backed down hard and the two destroyers missed each other by less than ten feet.

There was so much smoke that Commander Evans ordered no firing unless the gunnery officer could see the enemy. "At 0820, there suddenly appeared out of the smoke a 30,000 ton KONGO Class battleship, only 7,000 yards off our port beam. I took one look at the unmistakable pagoda mast, muttered, 'I sure as hell can see that!" and opened fire. In 40 seconds we got off 30 rounds, at least 15 of which hit the pagoda superstructure....the battleship belched a few 14-inchers at us, but, thank God, registered only clean misses."

JOHNSTON soon observed GAMBIER BAY (CVE 73) under fire from a cruiser. "Commander Evans then gave the most courageous order I've ever heard, 'Commence firing on that cruiser, draw her fire on us and away from GAMBIER BAY'." JOHNSTON scored four hits in a deliberate slug match with a heavy cruiser, then broke off the futile battle as the Japanese destroyer squadron was seen closing rapidly on the American escort carriers.

JOHNSTON outfought the entire Japanese destroyer squadron, concentrating on the lead ship until the enemy quit cold, then concentrated on the second destroyer until the remaining enemy units broke off to get out of effective gun range before launching torpedoes, all of which went wild. JOHNSTON took a hit which knocked out one forward gun, damaged another, and her bridge was rendered untenable by fires and explosions resulting from a hit in her 40mm ready ammunition locker. Commander Evans shifted his command to JOHNSTON's fantail, yelling orders through an open hatch to men turning her rudder by hand. Still the destroyer battled desperately to keep the Japanese destroyers and cruisers from reaching the five surviving American carriers. "We were now in a position where all the gallantry and guts in the world couldn't save us, but we figured that help for the carriers must be on the way, and every minute's delay might count...."

"By 0930 we were going dead in the water; even the Japanese couldn't miss us. They made a sort of running semi-circle around our ship, shooting at us like a bunch of Indians attacking a prairie schooner. Our lone engine and fire room was knocked out; we lost all power, and even the indomitable skipper knew we were finished. At 0945 he gave the saddest order a captain can give: 'Abandon Ship.'..."

At 1010 JOHNSTON rolled over and began to sink. A Japanese destroyer came up to 1,000 yards and pumped a final shot into her to make sure she went down. A survivor saw the Japanese captain salute her as she went down. That was the end of JOHNSTON. From her compliment of 327, only 141 were saved. Of 186 lost, about 50 were killed by enemy action, 45 died on rafts from battle injuries; and 92, including Commander Evans, were alive in the water after JOHNSTON sank, but were never heard from again.

JOHNSTON and her task unit had stopped Admiral Kurita's powerful Centre Force in the Battle Off Samar, inflicting a greater loss than they suffered. Her supreme courage and daring in the battle won her the Presidential Unit Citation as a unit of "Taffy III". Commander Evans was posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor; "The skipper was a fighting man from the soles of his broad feet to the ends of his straight black hair. He was an Oklahoman and proud of the Indian blood he had in him. We called him - though not to his face - the Chief. The JOHNSTON was a fighting ship, but he was the heart and soul of her."

USS JOHNSTON (DD 557) received five Battle Stars for her service in World War II.

The USS Johnston was two days less than one year old when she went down.
 
Ah, Leyte Gulf. Halsey's tactical insanity, Kurita's loss of nerve, the night action at Surigao strait.....etc. So many stories, so much controversy. I suspect we will see many more posts here (isn't that right, Hannibal Barca:D .)
 
Originally posted by Agelastus
Ah, Leyte Gulf. Halsey's tactical insanity, Kurita's loss of nerve, the night action at Surigao strait.....etc. So many stories, so much controversy. I suspect we will see many more posts here (isn't that right, Hannibal Barca:D .)

Indeed, it remains controversial just how much Japan expected Halsey to behave like Halsey. Spruance would never have gotten suckered like that, and yet Halsey gets all the credit for being the "great" USN battle commander. Taffy III saved him from being another Kimmel (commander at Pearl Harbor) in the lexicon of WWII.

Ray Spruance was by far the better commander, but didn't care enough about his press or fame to gain nearly the popular image Halsey obtained.
 
H.M.S. COURAGEOUS
(Sept.17, 1939) The22,500 ton converted British escort carrier, commanded by Capt. W.T. Makeig-Jones, and accompanied by HMS Ark Royal and HMS Hermes, was sunk by German submarine U-29 (Kptlt. Otto Schuhart) while on anti-submarine duty 350 miles west of Lands End. A total of 576 men died in this tragedy, the first Royal Navy ship sunk in the war. Lost were 514 navy men, 26 Fleet Air Arm men and 36 RAF servicing crew. The carrier sank in about fifteen minutes after being hit by two torpedoes from a salvo of three fired from the U-boat. Captain Makeig-Jones stayed on the bridge and saluted the flag as the ship turned over and sank. All such patrols by aircraft carriers were stopped from then on. The entire crew of the U-29 was awarded the Iron Cross 2nd. class, when the boat made it safely back to Wilhelmshaven, the first time this decoration was awarded to members of the U-boat service. The U-29 survived the war and was scuttled on May 4, 1945.
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H.M.S. ROYAL OAK
(October 14, 1939) The first British capital ship to be lost in the war, the 31,200 ton battleship was sunk at her moorings at the British Home Fleet Naval Base in Scapa Flow, Orkney, hitherto considered to be impenetrable to submarines. Hit by torpedoes from the German submarine U-47, commanded by Lt.Cmdr. Gunther Prien, the Royal Oak went down with the loss of 809 men and 24 officers including her commander, Rear Admiral H.F.C. Blagrove. At 1.16 am, three torpedoes were fired from the U-47, all three struck and within 15-minutes the battleship rolled over and sank. A total of 414 lives were saved from the stricken ship. Being anchored in the comparatively 'safe' waters of Scapa Flow, many doors, ventilators and hatches, were left open. If these had been closed at the time of the attack, the Royal Oak would have taken longer to sink, thus perhaps saving many more lives. The U-47 made its way back to Germany and a hero's welcome for the crew. Gunther Prien and the U-47 were lost while attacking convoy OB293 on the night of March 7/8, 1941.
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H.M.S. GLORIOUS
(June 8, 1940) Sister ship of the Courageous, sunk by the German warships Scharnhorst and Gneisenau while aiding in the evacuation of British troops from Narvik in Norway. En route to Scapa Flow in the Orkneys, the Glorious, commanded by Capt. D'Oyly-Hughes, encountered the German cruisers which scored direct hits on the carrier at a range of 20,000 yards putting her flight deck out of action. A total of 1,207 men, including 41 RAF ground personnel and 18 RAF and Fleet Air Arm pilots, died. Two escort destroyers, the Acasta (Cdr.Glasford) and Ardent (Lt-Cdr.Barker) were also sunk during the attack. The Acasta had fired a torpedo at the Scharnhorst causing damage to her quarterdeck and killing 48 men. The total death toll from the three British vessels amounted to 1,561 (Acasta 160 and Ardent 152) There were only 63 survivors but 25 of these died from exposure before being picked up two and a half days later. Only 38 men survived the sinking of the three ships (only one survivor from the Ardent, Able Seaman Rodger Hooke) One hundred miles away was the cruiser HMS Devonshire which picked up the garbled SOS from the Glorious but dared not repeat it. At that moment she was on a secret mission, transporting the King of Norway and his staff from Tromsó to the safety of the British Isles. The Glorious (22,200 tons) was the first aircraft carrier to be sunk by surface ships.
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HMT LANCASTRIA
(June 17, 1940) The Cunard /White Star passenger liner Lancastria, the former Tyrrhenia (16,243 tons) is bombed and sunk off St. Nazaire, France. While lying at anchor in the Charpentier Roads, five enemy KG.30 Dornier Do17 planes dive bombed the ship which sank in twenty minutes taking the lives of nearly 3,000 troops and over 1,000 civilians.The Lancastria had been converted into a troopship and set sail from Liverpool on June 14th. to assist in the evacuation of British troops and refugees from France (Operation Aerial). Her captain, Rudolf Sharpe, took on board as many troops and refugees as possible. She was about to sail to England after loading on board soldiers and RAF personnel of the British Expeditionary Force, plus about a thousand of civilian refugees. One bomb exploded in the Number 2 hold where around 800 RAF personnel had been placed. About 1,400 tons of fuel oil spilled from the stricken vessel as the Dornier's dropped incendiaries in an attempt to set the oil on fire. The 2,477 survivors, including her captain, were picked up by HMS Havelock and other ships. The bomb which actually sank the Lancastria went straight down the funnel. The site of the sinking is now an official War Grave protected by The Protection of Military Remains Act of 1986. The loss of the Lancastria was the fourth largest maritime disaster of the war. Captain Rudolf Sharpe later lost his life when the ship he commanded, the Laconia, was sunk. Under the Official Secrets Act, the report on the Lancastria cannot be published until the year 2040. If it is proved that Captain Sharpe ignored the Ministry of Defence instructions not to exceed the maximum loading capacity of 3000 persons, grounds for compensation claims could be enormous.
During Operation'Aerial' 28,145 British and 4,439 French, Polish and Canadian troops were evacuated from Brest. Among the French contingent were many German and Italian nationals, all members of the French Foreign Legion. At Lorient, the trawler La Tenche, was sunk with the loss of 218 lives. At Saint Nazaire, 57,235 troops and civilians were evacuated. From St. Malo, 21,475, from Cherbourg, 30,630 and from La Pallice, 2,303. Thousands of others were picked up from smaller ports, in total, 163,225 persons. (During the Dunkirk evacuation, Operation'Dynamo' 338,226 troops were saved).
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Hannibal
 
Originally posted by Hannibal Barca

H.M.S. COURAGEOUS
(Sept.17, 1939) The22,500 ton converted British escort carrier,

Hannibal
As invited on another thread, gotcha. Converted British "light battlecruiser". Well, probably-that's about the best term you can come up with for any of "Fisher's follies". Alternatively, if you were referring to its converted class, fleet carrier would be more appropriate, since this is how the ships of this class were generally used. The first escort carrier was a converted merchantman, HMS Audacity.
Agelastus
 
I stand corrected, Fleet Carrier it is. Sound of a single pistol shot....

Hannibal
 
The conversions of the "HMS Outrageous" class "light battlecruisers" (light cruiser armor but armed with 2 single 18" guns!) produced ships that were faster than escort carriers but not much more capable. Probably the "light carrier" appelation is most appropriate, since Courageous and Furious most closely resembled the US "Cleveland" conversions.

Of course, in the plane-limited RN, even HMS Hermes rated "fleet carrier" status for a while!
 
Originally posted by grumbler
The conversions of the "HMS Outrageous" class "light battlecruisers" (light cruiser armor but armed with 2 single 18" guns!) produced ships that were faster than escort carriers but not much more capable. Probably the "light carrier" appelation is most appropriate, since Courageous and Furious most closely resembled the US "Cleveland" conversions.

Of course, in the plane-limited RN, even HMS Hermes rated "fleet carrier" status for a while!

Courageous, Glorious 4 15-inch guns. Furious was supposed to be fitted with the single 18-inch guns, but only one was ever fitted. The multiple modifications/changes to the Furious make a fascinating study of early carrier design.

They probably carried initially as many planes as the later Illustrious class carriers. Anyone want to call them light carriers (classical boxing pose, pugnaciously awaiting response.)
 
Originally posted by Agelastus
Courageous, Glorious 4 15-inch guns. Furious was supposed to be fitted with the single 18-inch guns, but only one was ever fitted. The multiple modifications/changes to the Furious make a fascinating study of early carrier design.

Ah, so, too true. Only Furious ever carried the "ultimate" armament of the class. Still, they were pretty strange designs, and show how far divorced Fischer was from reality. No four-gun (let alone a two-gun) battery can really hope to establish a firing pattern that will result in hits.

They probably carried initially as many planes as the later Illustrious class carriers. Anyone want to call them light carriers (classical boxing pose, pugnaciously awaiting response.)

Yeah, 3 dozen (at best) planes. A CVL by USN standards. Too fast to be called a CVE (and aircrews too well trained). One shudders to think of what the course of the Pacific War would have been had USN aircraft been designed by the USAAF (as the RN's were by the RAF).
 
Never been to sure how many planes the Illustrious class carried. The things I've read vary from 36-54. Even given the improvement in aircraft handling during the war and the use of a deck park this is quite a big discrepancy. The normal figure that I've read in several sources is 48 for the Glorious etc., but in at least one case this is followed by a combined total of 108 for the three!

Don't completely dismiss British carrier design. Look at the performance of the British carriers when facing Kamikaze attacks at Okinawa. And what American carrier could have survived the damage the Illustrious took in the Mediterranean in 1941?
 
Fabulous. Survivors should be proud.
 
Agelastus, ever heard of the Franklin?
 
Agelastus,

British carriers (the purpose-built ones, anyway) did an excellent job in the role for which they were designed: fleet support in an area dominated by land-based air power. No US carrier would have done as well as the RN carriers in the Med, given equal aircraft types, just as the RNs carriers suffered when operating in a blue water environment where numbers of aircraft are critical.

My criticism of the RN's carrier force lies almost entirely in their aircraft (although you probably COULD argue that the Outrageous class was a waste of critical treaty tonnage, but given economic realities I think that the building of 2 modern carriers in the olace of these three was probably not in the cards). The RAF was responsible for all aircraft design between the wars in Britain, and they predictably short-sighted the RN when it came to scarce resources. I cannot think of a completely successful RN carrier plane in the war. Imagine taking "string beans" to war against Japan! When re-equipped with modern USN aircraft, the RN CVs did quite well (but no three of their CVS would likely have won Midway, as they lacked sufficient aircraft for both spotting and attacking).
 
And what American carrier could have survived the damage the Illustrious took in the Mediterranean in 1941?
I would like to think that both the Lex and the Saratoga could have. They were built on battlecruiser hulls, quite stoudt as history would show. Grumbler is most certainly correct in regards to aircraft that the RAF foisted upon the RN.
 
Originally posted by dudmont
I would like to think that both the Lex and the Saratoga could have. They were built on battlecruiser hulls, quite stoudt as history would show. Grumbler is most certainly correct in regards to aircraft that the RAF foisted upon the RN.
Yeah, but they still had wooden flight decks, didn't they? I think that's the point with the Limey flattops, armored flight decks.
 
Grumbler, i found the lord St vincent quote, "I do not say they cannot come. I can only say they are not coming by sea".

Hannibal:D
 
Originally posted by dudmont
I would like to think that both the Lex and the Saratoga could have. They were built on battlecruiser hulls, quite stoudt as history would show. Grumbler is most certainly correct in regards to aircraft that the RAF foisted upon the RN.

Yes, the main problem with the British carriers were the crap aircraft. Although the AA gunners of the Bismark might have liked to disagree about the Swordfish, if one of the theories of why the German battleship was unable to shoot them down is true (their predictors were set to assume an aircraft speed of at least 100mph, and, as the Swordfish were flying more slowly to drop their torpedoes, they were shooting slightly ahead of the aircraft the whole time!)

The main problem with the Courageous class carriers was not that they were converted ships, but the silly flying-off deck forwards that cut down on aircraft capacity and flight-deck space. At least the Japanese got rid of theirs when they modernised the Akagi and the Kaga in the thirties. They were also used stupidly, as the losses of both the Courageous and the Glorious were certainly avoidable if used more sensibly (and don't mention the Ark Royal!)

As for the Lexington and Saratoga they had other problems, apart from the already mentioned wooden (teak) flight-deck, as the sinking of the Lexington showed. The colossal length of her hull caused a massive whip effect that ruptured her avgas lines when hit by a torpedo. She was rendered unsalvageable by the resulting avgas explosion, not the initial torpedo hits.