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Byakhiam said:
There is already successor-vampires creating event, but no actual spread events to spread it to others yet. What kind of people should it spread to? Not randomly, I believe, but to vassals? Spouses? Advisors?
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I think top advisors would be a good idea and maybe spouses as well. A ruler can always find a new wife but to find excellent advisors ís pretty hard. I don´t think vassals would be a good idea. Anyway the number of vampires should stay quite low because if the church would find that out the inquisitors would have some work to do. ;)
 
MegaPIMP said:
This sounds interresting...

Maybe give Vampires somekind of steward bonus or max demense?(living for ever tend to give you experience).
I can think of some nice events were you kill of courtiers and the like...

How big is the file?

You could try:

http://equinox.homelinux.net/public/uploader/
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Actually vampire should get negative Stewardship bonus, imo - it's a bit hard to run things when you can do so only during a night, especially in a medieval society, when basically everything is done by day.

He should get a bonus to Intrigue though, and possibly Diplomacy (Mesmerism and the like).
 
Some off-hand ideas:

- "discovery" events, with the MTTH modified by age (i.e. the older you are, the easier it is to discover you are a vampire) - with a necessity of dealing with such discovery by bribes or confrontation (what if it is a vampire hunter who knows how to stab you?)

- the more advances (especially in religious stringency) the more difficult to hide your true identity,

- events to expel inquisition and the like,

- "wench/young man" events changed to simulate feeding frenzy of the ruler - with a chance of the victim dying and you becoming cruel (each such feed should also have a chance of increasing the health of the vampire),

- the more cruel, vengeful, arbitrary and indulgent the vampire is, the more easy for him to lose self-control and do something stupid in the middle of a public event,

- you could have different vampiric modifiers for different "clans" of vampires (as in Vampire RPG), e.g.
-- embraced by a Ventrue - get bonus to Martial and Stewardship plus the trait Vampire,
-- embraced by a Brujah - get bonus to Martial and Diplomacy plus the trait Vampire,
-- embraced by a Lasombra - get bonus to Diplomacy and Intrigue plus the trait Vampire, and so on.
 
Martinus said:
Actually vampire should get negative Stewardship bonus, imo - it's a bit hard to run things when you can do so only during a night, especially in a medieval society, when basically everything is done by day.

He should get a bonus to Intrigue though, and possibly Diplomacy (Mesmerism and the like).
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One of the major problems of seniorial masters was peasants cheating in their tax payments. who would dare lying to a vampire?

guess i'll have to reread Ravenloft "Vampire of the Mists" for some vampire-village dynamics :)
 
Thanks for the significant amount of feedback.

@ Martinus: I am familiar with the Vampire: Dark Ages and some ideas are based on ideas of vampire (Ennui - eventseries, power increasing, inhumanity - eventseries...). I just don't want to make it too clearly based on Vampire: DA, but instead take ideas from other sources too. Clans are hard to implement, because one would need a specific trait for each clan to make the game remember clan properly... Also I think vampires should get Stewardship bonus too as well as in other traits, though not straight away and not automatically. Some vampiric power (Mind Control, Telepathy etc) can certainly help with managing your lands.

@ Finnish Dragon: Chances to make advisors vampire sound good. Though I plan to make advisor-changing events have a slight chance of death if you make advisor a vampire and if you won't, you'll kill the advisor.

@ Soarom: Please do read it again. If it's the one Ravenloft book I have read long time ago, it could certainly give a different viewpoint in this.
 
Byakhiam said:
I know. At current my vampiric mod still supports the original Sainting process by Canonization -> Sainthood event. My point before was that if I add Canonized as a trait to be used by the living, I have to disable the Sainting event.
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Yes you probably should drop sainthood as a trait given to the pious dead and as well the canonization event.

I would either use this event for making people become immune to vamparism or having some kind of vampares hunters OR use it to make to make those of mongol culture become eastern vampires which are by all folklore accounts and recent revisions such as Whife Wold's WoD different.

They also wouldn't be born or spread the same way either. In fact, there would be no spreading at all as they cannot have children like western vampires, atleast by other vampires and those by humans creature according to lore half-breed abominations.
 
Martinus said:
Western vampires cannot copulate to have children - the only way for someone to become a vampire is to be "Embraced" by another vampire.
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Exactly, but eastern vampires cannot embrace anyone to create children even. They are only created upon death when something goes wrong or the spirit doesn't want to leave the flesh and is too stong. It varies upon where you read, but essentially except for a few instances of mentioned of half-demon spawn (which is what they are also refered to roughly translated) they cannot have children. Even then they are not commonplace.
 
You should probably lower the fertility still further - a lusty couple can still reproduce with a -10 fertility modifier. Being a vampire should definitely increase your intrigue considerably, and probably your diplomacy as well, but should probably give a mild hit to the other two.

You might consider tweaking some of the "I could be a better courtier" events to "I am ready for the kiss of the vampire!" events. You could also tweak some of the conversion-because-my-liege-is-a-different-religion events in that way.

You should probably modify most of the existing disease events to not fire if you are already a vampire. You might add some events making you corrupt and vicious over time because of your vampirism - some events that might get added include: wise, skeptical, heretic, cruel, chaste, excommunicated, selfish, madness, vengeful, deceitful, proud, suspicious. Certain religious events shouldn't fire if you're a vampire, like the "God will forgive your sins" ones. God will never forgive your sins; He has forsaken you.

You could add a random event to possibly slay the ruler if you have a valorous and zealous courtier - possibly give a choice between a) killing both characters, b) severely wounding the vampire and making him cowardly and stressed, and killing the courtier, or c) making the courtier the new ruler, giving him some stat boosts, and killing the vampire. A player would never pick option c unless the courtier was a relative, but the AI might...
 
Cagliostro said:
Certain religious events shouldn't fire if you're a vampire, like the "God will forgive your sins" ones. God will never forgive your sins; He has forsaken you.
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although a crusader vampire would make for an interesting saga or two :)
i mean, i just think of the words "crusader vampire" and the story just writes itself. i think it's a great gameplay opportunity, that might be justified somehow(maybe the vampire wasn't discovered). Then again, i might sound like an rpg munchking now. "gee i want to play a vampire crusader! lemme lemme lemme!" :rolleyes:
 
Soarom said:
i think a Ravenloft Mod would make for great playing :)
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I was thinking World of Darkness... :)
 
Gothmog said:
I was thinking World of Darkness... :)
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WoD has been the biggest source of inspiration in the Mod. :)

Also, if anyone has tried the Mod, would you care to share your experiences?
 
Byakhiam said:
WoD has been the biggest source of inspiration in the Mod. :)

Also, if anyone has tried the Mod, would you care to share your experiences?
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I'll download it tomorrow, will check back to you with opinions as soon as I've played it some.

One right off the bat: If you're going to go WoD, why not have different Vampire clans?
 
...of course, you don't want to be sued by White Wolf... so you'd best be careful it you do that. :)

Didn't they sue some PC game company a while back?
 
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