Originally posted by tuna
For the ultimate experience in raping and pillaging, go for the Mongols! You get to do it on both the Muslims and Christians
Pity they aren't playable...
How easy of a cgame do you want???
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How easy of a cgame do you want???
Originally posted by Sonny
How easy of a cgame do you want???
Hey do you really think riding on horseback for thousands of miles and fighting dozens of armies on your way is easy?
All that plundering would surely take its toll on your psyche as well... Stay safely in your castle and collect taxes, that's what I call easy!
Originally posted by Sonny
You don't think things would have been different if the Norse would have won the battle of Stamford bridge?
Frankly not much. Maybe there would have been a different line of kings (I doubt it though) but I dare to say that there would be no more Viking raids anyhow. Battles often only confirm what has been in the works for a long time anyhow.
Hmmmm....
..... raping after thousands of miles on a horseback can't be much enjoyment......
Originally posted by tuna
Hey do you really think riding on horseback for thousands of miles and fighting dozens of armies on your way is easy?
..... raping after thousands of miles on a horseback can't be much enjoyment......
well you got to remember that viking's golden era concided with breakup of caroliginian empire and re fragmentation of europe and british isles...that meant as been semi professional soldiers i.e like greek hoplites/republican legionaire type they had advantage over local lords who could muster only ill armed/trained militia or fryd...it changed with acceleration of fueadal ( arrghhh cant spell it sigh) system in western europe....oh boy did i type that????
Even if the Viking Age had technically passed by 1066, cant you still have some Viking-style fun with Denmark? Yes, they have cavalry now, theyre Christian, but theyre still struggling for Baltic supremacy arent they?
Valdemar the Great's campaigns against the Wends were mainly Viking-style "amphibious" assaults, werent they? Like the attack on Rugen, the naval blockade of Lubeck, all the other raiding and plundering expeditions with Henry the Lion against Mecklenburg & Pomerania, etc.
Shortly after, didnt the Danes and Swedes launch "crusades" against Livonia, Estonia, etc.? Werent they raiding, pillaging, and conquering as they were missionizing?
Then you have the Danish expeditions to England after 1066, supporting rebels against William, and correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt Sven actually pursuing his claim to the throne? So an enterprising player could re-conquer England like generations of Vikings before him had.
Plus, you have Valdemar's heirs invading Germany with varying degrees of success, and so on. I dont know much about Scandinavian history, but it seems like Denmark could still be as fun to play even if is she is Christian and the Viking Age has technically just ended!
Valdemar the Great's campaigns against the Wends were mainly Viking-style "amphibious" assaults, werent they? Like the attack on Rugen, the naval blockade of Lubeck, all the other raiding and plundering expeditions with Henry the Lion against Mecklenburg & Pomerania, etc.
Shortly after, didnt the Danes and Swedes launch "crusades" against Livonia, Estonia, etc.? Werent they raiding, pillaging, and conquering as they were missionizing?
Then you have the Danish expeditions to England after 1066, supporting rebels against William, and correct me if Im wrong, but wasnt Sven actually pursuing his claim to the throne? So an enterprising player could re-conquer England like generations of Vikings before him had.
Plus, you have Valdemar's heirs invading Germany with varying degrees of success, and so on. I dont know much about Scandinavian history, but it seems like Denmark could still be as fun to play even if is she is Christian and the Viking Age has technically just ended!
I know how my first game will be.
*installs CK*
*Picks Denmark*
*Load Grand Campaign*
*Game starts in 1066*
*Denmark declare war on England/Normandy in 1066*
MUST.........RECLAIM.........OLD.......VIKING.......EMPIRE.....AARRG!
*installs CK*
*Picks Denmark*
*Load Grand Campaign*
*Game starts in 1066*
*Denmark declare war on England/Normandy in 1066*
MUST.........RECLAIM.........OLD.......VIKING.......EMPIRE.....AARRG!
Actually, if all accounts we got for the game so far are true, this should be quite impossible to do
Ah, let him dream. Soon Denmark exists no more...
Vikings are cool. But by any standards, the Vikings' golden era was over by 1066. So no pillaging and plunder of them nuns on the British Isles, I'm afraid.
Vikings are cool. But by any standards, the Vikings' golden era was over by 1066. So no pillaging and plunder of them nuns on the British Isles, I'm afraid.
The battle of Stamford Bridge effectively ended the long Norse domination of the British Isles. After the Norman conquest of the same year, England turned away from the north and became much closer involved with the continent.
The Viking age was not quite over in the Irish Sea, and Norwegians are recorded burning Hartlepool as late as the mid C12 - as sure a sign as any Norway had entered the civilised world I reckon any latter-day 'Viking' activity, that is raids/dynastic land grabs will be dealt with under the regular game mechanics as both options were common to all Christian European dynasties.
I do wish people would stop claiming the Normans were Franco-Vikings. It does neither group any service. The essence of the Viking Age, what made it successful and continues to take the fancy, was small-scale, outwards looking entrepreneurism, a world away from the feudal slave empire the Normans created in England.
First mod I make will resurrect my all-time hero, Harold Godwinson...
I reckon any latter-day 'Viking' activity, that is raids/dynastic land grabs will be dealt with under the regular game mechanics as both options were common to all Christian European dynasties.I do wish people would stop claiming the Normans were Franco-Vikings. It does neither group any service. The essence of the Viking Age, what made it successful and continues to take the fancy, was small-scale, outwards looking entrepreneurism, a world away from the feudal slave empire the Normans created in England.
First mod I make will resurrect my all-time hero, Harold Godwinson...
Why stop there? Go all the way back to Brutus - didn't the Britons claim to be descended from him?
Norman England wasn't as feudal as say as France, or the HRE. Richard I was a feudal king but other than that, merchants had much more freedom in England then in most of Europe.