War of the Nations, a World War I mod

[Nietzsche]

Noticed something else: If the war ends with Russia still in the game, they get Istanbul. I doubt Britain would've ever allowed that. The only reason Britain and Russia had put their differences aside was because they hated Germany more than one another. (I learned this playing as Germany, trying to take France first...Russia was in Berlin by 1916.)

 

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my favorite mode.... thx Tatar

 

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Noticed something else: If the war ends with Russia still in the game, they get Istanbul. I doubt Britain would've ever allowed that. The only reason Britain and Russia had put their differences aside was because they hated Germany more than one another. (I learned this playing as Germany, trying to take France first...Russia was in Berlin by 1916.)

Most of the land secession events, or at least the actual secession of land, have not been touched. I actually think it's right to give Russia Constantinople, as the Russians demanded it in 1915. I'm not sure how Britain would have reacted, but as you said, the only reason they became close was because of Germany becoming a bigger threat.

@Beg_Birdal

Thanks for the compliment

 

[Nietzsche]

Most of the land secession events, or at least the actual secession of land, have not been touched. I actually think it's right to give Russia Constantinople, as the Russians demanded it in 1915. I'm not sure how Britain would have reacted, but as you said, the only reason they became close was because of Germany becoming a bigger threat.

@Beg_Birdal

Thanks for the compliment

Russia tried to seize it once, I can't remember when(post 1900 mind you) and Britain went so far as to employ the Royal Navy to stop them. They obviously don't want to see it under Russian administration.

But yes. I deeply enjoy this mod. However, I'd like to point something out: As Germany, I get spammed with alliance offers from the Dutch, Scandinavia(all of them) and such from 1914 to about 1915. That's probably why the other guy had alot of alliances. They were offered to him.

 

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Russia tried to seize it once, I can't remember when(post 1900 mind you) and Britain went so far as to employ the Royal Navy to stop them. They obviously don't want to see it under Russian administration.

But yes. I deeply enjoy this mod. However, I'd like to point something out: As Germany, I get spammed with alliance offers from the Dutch, Scandinavia(all of them) and such from 1914 to about 1915. That's probably why the other guy had alot of alliances. They were offered to him.

The only armed conflict post 1900 between Russia and Turkey was the Great War. The British did, intervened, in 1878. But since that time the relations between Russia and Britain did change. And with a successfull dissolution of the Ottoman Empire between Russia, Britain and France, I can't think of a reason for not giving it to Russia. It might be ahistorical for Russia to gain it, but it's also ahistorical that Russia wins the war. Although it could serve as a good base for a renewed Anglo-Russian tensions post-war.

I think the problem lays in the fact that most neutral nations don't have a diplomacy section in their file. Germany starts with negative relations to most countries (except Sweden), but I'm not sure if they actually have negative relations with them. I'll add some diplomacy values to Scandinavia and the Dutch. However, he also allied himself with Portugal, which shouldn't be possible (unless they chose to join them by event, which they didn't in his case), so that's why I asked.

 

[Kaiser Franz]

I played a game as UK, and i must say, it was pretty damn good. Some odd things did occur, mainly regarding the central powers surrendering to some countires but not to others. There was a point for a few months, before all the treaty events came in etc, that i was fighting austria, but not Germany or Ottoamn empire lol. Other than those issues, which turned out fine in short time, it was great. Obviously i can assume this is still very much a work i process, especially with all the post war stuff going on. But i give my full thumbs up.

If you want any help regarding the chinese warlords, mexican revolution, russian civil war (makhno included). Please let me know. I'd be willing to help! (I'm not so much of a modder than i am a research dude lol.

 

[jamhaw]

Noticed something else: If the war ends with Russia still in the game, they get Istanbul. I doubt Britain would've ever allowed that. The only reason Britain and Russia had put their differences aside was because they hated Germany more than one another. (I learned this playing as Germany, trying to take France first...Russia was in Berlin by 1916.)

The British HAD promised the straits to the Russians, although whether the British and French would have lived up to that promise is a different issue.

 

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I played a game as UK, and i must say, it was pretty damn good. Some odd things did occur, mainly regarding the central powers surrendering to some countires but not to others. There was a point for a few months, before all the treaty events came in etc, that i was fighting austria, but not Germany or Ottoamn empire lol. Other than those issues, which turned out fine in short time, it was great. Obviously i can assume this is still very much a work i process, especially with all the post war stuff going on. But i give my full thumbs up.

If you want any help regarding the chinese warlords, mexican revolution, russian civil war (makhno included). Please let me know. I'd be willing to help! (I'm not so much of a modder than i am a research dude lol.

There are several problems with the AI since the introduction of Revolutions, those peace treaties signed by the AI. Unfortunately I didn't found a way around it. But usually they involve nations who hardly affect the war in a decisive way (Japan, New Zealand are common to see surrendering). Regarding just fighting Austria, my best bet is that the entire alliance collapsed when one of the Central Powers signed a seperate peace treaty. But why you (ENG) stopped fighting Germany is beyond me. My only theory is that the US entered the war, taking over the leadership of the Entente and thus for example signs peace with the Ottoman-German alliance, ending that war. To prevent the US to become an alliance leader I removed their prestige, which they'll gain back after the war, to prevent such odd things.

I'm not sure if you've seen the Russian Civil War in action, but the greater scheme of things has been done. The Chinese Civil War has been worked on, but as I hardly know anything about it, I'm not sure if it's a good representation. The Mexican Revolution is even worse. It contains two factions, with the revolutionaries in the north, an event for the raid into New Mexico (IIRC), the return of Veracruz (US owned at the start) and a very basic surrender event. So any help is welcome. If you need some information, just ask.

The British HAD promised the straits to the Russians, although whether the British and French would have lived up to that promise is a different issue.

That's why kept it in and it could serve as a point of conflict between Russia and the British and French on the other hands.

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Oh the Russian civil war was fantastic, watching it transpire from my safe little British Isles, it was pretty damn interesting to watch it go along. I like all the factions you've thrown in to cause considerable confusion. Have you considered throwing in Makhno's faction in the Ukraine?
As for China, teritorially, you've done a good job. Obviously needs more work, i may be able to give a hand in general stuff like parties, leaders, general event ideas etc.

As for the Mexican revolution, i can basically help you on on some event ideas, what happened etc. Thats one of my pet interests to a degree. Hopefully Semper Victor may eventually work on some Mexican generals, in which case i could help him out on both sides.
I'll write up a little bit on who should be fighting , generals, basic event style stuff if you want.

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Well, here's my help for Mexico. I hope it is of help, its more or less a question of some venets, parties and OOB's being changed etc.

OOB – Revolutionary Mexico, 1914

- El ejército del Norte (Villa’s force) – 1 Cavalry Division, 3 Infantry Divisions
- El Ejército que libera del Sur (Zapata’s army in Morelos state), 1 Inf Division, 2 Irr Division

Revolutionary Mexico Parties
- Partido de Convención (Socialist, protectionism, state Capitalism, pro military, atheism, full citizenship), This represents the more radical revolutionaries like Villa and Zapata who fought Huerta and eventually Carranza
- Partido Liberal Mexicano (Anarcho-Liberal, Laissez-Faire, free trade, atheism, full citizenship, anti-military) 1906-1922.


OOB – Mexico, 1914

- El ejército del Noroeste (Army of the Northwest, 2 Infantry Divisions, 1 w. Artillery, 1 w. Engineers)
- El ejército del Este (Army of the East, 1 Division)
- El ejército del Oeste (Army of the West, 1 Division)
- El ejército del Sur (Army of the South, 1 Division)



Mexico Parties

- Partido Laborista (Socialist, Free Trade, Planned Economy, Secularized, pro military, full citizenship) Obregon was part of this party. 1919-1940
- Partido Constitucionalista Progresista (Conservative, free trade, laissez faire, pro military, pluralism, limited citizenship) 1910-1929
- Partido Socialista Obrero (Communist) 1911-1919
- Partido Comunista Mexicano (Communist) 1919-
- Partido de Convención (Socialist, free trade, state Capitalism, pro military, atheism, full citizenship) 1914-1919
- Partido Felicista (Fascist/Reactionary, interventionism, protectionism, jingoism, residence, moralism) 1913-1920. Led by Felix Diaz, nephew of the former dictator Porfirio Diaz.

How things should transpire…
General Huerta had been overthrown in July of that year. Carranza replaced him as President. On September 23rd 1914, Pancho Villa declares war on Carranza. In October and throughout November the Convention of Aguas Calientes takes place. This is supported by Villa and Zapata who vote to expel Carranza from the presidency. This properly begins the war between the Constitutionalists (Carranza) and Conventionalists (Villa, Zapata etc). Zapata and Villa occupy Mexico City in December 1914, Carranza flees to Veracruz.
Throughout 1915 there are many big pitched battles which usually end up with Villa being beaten. Villa and Zapata are worn down. In October of that year Carranza is recognized by the US as the official Mexican government.
Somewhere between November 1915 and March 1916, Obregon offers an amnesty to Villa’s supporters if they switch sides or give up. Villa fails to keep many officers (40 generals, 5,046 officers and 11,128 men take the offer up).
March 1916, Villa attacks Columbus. US sends troops in. April 12th skirmish between US cavalry and Constitutionalist (Carranza) forces. June 21st Battle of Carrizal, larger skirmish between US and Mexican Government troops.
1919 – Zapata assassinated. June 1st, General Obregon announces his candidacy for the 1920 elections.
1920, April 2nd, Carranza tries to arrest Obregon on false charges to stop him getting elected. Obregon escapes. 20th April, Obregon rebels against Carranza and marches on Mexico City. May 7th, Carranza flees Mexico City but is captured and shot on 27th May. Villa, in July of that year accepts Obregon’s offer of an honourable retirement. September 5th 1920, Obregon is elected president (with Partido Laborista)
July 20th 1923, Pancho Villa is assassinated, probably by Obregon.


If you want similar help regarding the Chinese warlords, let me know, and i'll put something together for you

Hope this helps in whatever way!

 

[Gorgo Primus]

I just had a look at your save and noticed several things.

1. You (Germany) allied a lot of nations, including Norway, Sweden, Portugal and the Netherlands. How? All have a rather high neutrality value and shouldn't join the war, not to mention the monetary funds of Germany are very low (starting treasuries will be fixed for next version)

2. Austria kept Galicia for some reason. Upon closer examination, I saw that if Russia has collapsed, Western Ukraine will come into existance only if Poland exists (see #3) I'll add an event for it to be seceded to the Ukraine if Poland doesn't exist.

3. You went with 'Realize this policy' for Mitteleuropa, but rejected the existance of Poland. In the next version you won't have that possibility anymore. If you went with the first event, all nations will be seperated from Germany.

4. I noticed that the Brest-Litovsk Treaty fired very late after the Bolsheviks came to power. Reason behind this is that the treaty won't fire if 20% of Germany's provinces are occupied, and seeing how the history described French troops in Magdeburg and Berlin... I'm sure that one wasn't fullfilled.

5. Austria collapsed out of nowhere, or at least I couldn't see it in the event file. Most likely either war exhaustion or a rebel took Vienna and thus caused the collapse. I've removed the required of Vienna falling to be enough for an Austrian collapse, I've seen it enough times happing if rebels capture it. Maybe I'll add it back in, but add Budapest, Prague and Zagreb as requirements as well.

6. The problem with the Russian Civil War not firing properly is that Poland isn't existant. I can't remember why I added them to be independent in the first place, might have been something to do with giving Russia (Bolsheviks) enough time to recover from the war and add some stability.

7. I saw a lot of seperate peace treaties being signed. I'll write events for when that happens, the according peace treaty event for that specific nation will fire. Probably I'll add a new 'Versailles Event' that if Germany or France signs peace with the opposite party, the normal Versailles events will fire for the winning party (historically there was the deal that no seperate peace treaties would be signed.

8. Upon loading I had two errors. It has something to do with province 1068 (Uralsk) being defined in two states, one in Siberia the other one in Russia. I checked your save and it didn't say that Siberia owned that province, but it was defined in a state... And the second error is that RGO, which is defined twice.

Thanks for taking a look at it. Allot of those alliances sound like I made them after the war was done and the Russian civil war began. Last I checked the saves worked for me but it has been a long time. I hope that I've been of some help to you and will try the latest version of the mod again soon and see what has been changed.

Thank you for the mod and your time.

 

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Well, here's my help for Mexico. I hope it is of help, its more or less a question of some venets, parties and OOB's being changed etc.

OOB – Revolutionary Mexico, 1914

- El ejército del Norte (Villa’s force) – 1 Cavalry Division, 3 Infantry Divisions
- El Ejército que libera del Sur (Zapata’s army in Morelos state), 1 Inf Division, 2 Irr Division

Revolutionary Mexico Parties
- Partido de Convención (Socialist, protectionism, state Capitalism, pro military, atheism, full citizenship), This represents the more radical revolutionaries like Villa and Zapata who fought Huerta and eventually Carranza
- Partido Liberal Mexicano (Anarcho-Liberal, Laissez-Faire, free trade, atheism, full citizenship, anti-military) 1906-1922.


OOB – Mexico, 1914

- El ejército del Noroeste (Army of the Northwest, 2 Infantry Divisions, 1 w. Artillery, 1 w. Engineers)
- El ejército del Este (Army of the East, 1 Division)
- El ejército del Oeste (Army of the West, 1 Division)
- El ejército del Sur (Army of the South, 1 Division)



Mexico Parties

- Partido Laborista (Socialist, Free Trade, Planned Economy, Secularized, pro military, full citizenship) Obregon was part of this party. 1919-1940
- Partido Constitucionalista Progresista (Conservative, free trade, laissez faire, pro military, pluralism, limited citizenship) 1910-1929
- Partido Socialista Obrero (Communist) 1911-1919
- Partido Comunista Mexicano (Communist) 1919-
- Partido de Convención (Socialist, free trade, state Capitalism, pro military, atheism, full citizenship) 1914-1919
- Partido Felicista (Fascist/Reactionary, interventionism, protectionism, jingoism, residence, moralism) 1913-1920. Led by Felix Diaz, nephew of the former dictator Porfirio Diaz.

How things should transpire…
General Huerta had been overthrown in July of that year. Carranza replaced him as President. On September 23rd 1914, Pancho Villa declares war on Carranza. In October and throughout November the Convention of Aguas Calientes takes place. This is supported by Villa and Zapata who vote to expel Carranza from the presidency. This properly begins the war between the Constitutionalists (Carranza) and Conventionalists (Villa, Zapata etc). Zapata and Villa occupy Mexico City in December 1914, Carranza flees to Veracruz.
Throughout 1915 there are many big pitched battles which usually end up with Villa being beaten. Villa and Zapata are worn down. In October of that year Carranza is recognized by the US as the official Mexican government.
Somewhere between November 1915 and March 1916, Obregon offers an amnesty to Villa’s supporters if they switch sides or give up. Villa fails to keep many officers (40 generals, 5,046 officers and 11,128 men take the offer up).
March 1916, Villa attacks Columbus. US sends troops in. April 12th skirmish between US cavalry and Constitutionalist (Carranza) forces. June 21st Battle of Carrizal, larger skirmish between US and Mexican Government troops.
1919 – Zapata assassinated. June 1st, General Obregon announces his candidacy for the 1920 elections.
1920, April 2nd, Carranza tries to arrest Obregon on false charges to stop him getting elected. Obregon escapes. 20th April, Obregon rebels against Carranza and marches on Mexico City. May 7th, Carranza flees Mexico City but is captured and shot on 27th May. Villa, in July of that year accepts Obregon’s offer of an honourable retirement. September 5th 1920, Obregon is elected president (with Partido Laborista)
July 20th 1923, Pancho Villa is assassinated, probably by Obregon.


If you want similar help regarding the Chinese warlords, let me know, and i'll put something together for you

Hope this helps in whatever way!

Thanks for the information! It's extremely helpful, especially the OOBs. Similar information for the Chinese Warlords will be appreciated. Perhaps you've some suggestions for Makhno's faction and some idea's to better represent the Basmachi revolt (currently it's just rebels)?

Thanks for taking a look at it. Allot of those alliances sound like I made them after the war was done and the Russian civil war began. Last I checked the saves worked for me but it has been a long time. I hope that I've been of some help to you and will try the latest version of the mod again soon and see what has been changed.

Thank you for the mod and your time.

According to the save file they were signed before the war ended, but I've fixed the issue by giving those nations a very high neutrality rate, so you won't get any offers from them any more. What worried me the most was you (GER) signing an alliance with Portugal. You're save has been extremely useful, as is most of your feedback. Thanks to you and others I've found out that there were problems with the surrender events, so the triggers have been changed.

Currently I'm working on version 1.04, if you're interested I can send you the progress files for you to test.

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Ok, here is what i've put together for China, this goes up to 1928 and the 'Reunification of China'. This is basically a relatively quick (but long) chronology of events. If you have any questions or want any opinions on how they'd work out as events let me know!

National Protection War (1915-16)

December 12th 1915, Yuan Shikai proclaims himself Emperor of China. This causes Yunnan commanders Tang Jiyao and Cai E to break away from China on 25th December. They form a National Protection Army, Yuan sends troops in but they get beaten. Guizhou and Guangxi provinces break away as well some time between February and March 1916. Guangdong, Shandong, Hunan, Shanxi, Jiangxi, Jiangsu break away too. Yuan Shikai, faced with this massive pressure abdicates on March 22nd 1916. Beiyang government now cannot crontrol its southern provinces who have broken away. After Yuan’s Death, they have no leadership and fragment further.

Death of Yuan Shikai (1916)

June 6th 1916 Yuan dies. Li Yuanhong becaomes President in his stead, with Duan Qirui (of the Anhui/AnFu clique) as Premier.

Role in First World War (1917)

Duan Qirui wanted China to join the allies in WW1 so he could secure lones from Japan to build up his Anhui army. President Li Yuanhong did not want to join the allies. Ugly debates forced Li Yuanhong to dismiss Duan Qirui in May 1917. This caused Duan’s suporters to stir trouble. Li Yuanhong called in general Zhang Xun in to mediate. Zhang was an old Qing royalist and decided to replace the republic with the empire again. He was given backing, funds and weaponry by the German legation in China, as the Germans wanted to keep China neutral.

Manchu Restoration (1917)

Zhang Xun on July 1st 1917 officially declared the empire restored under Pu-Yi. Duan however led his army and defeated Zhang on July 12th. President Li Yuanhong was replaced with Vice-President Feng Guozhang (of the Zhilli clique) and Duan Qirui was brought back as Premier. Under Duan China on August 13th 1917 declared war on Germany.

The First Constitutional Protection Movement (1917)

Sun Yat-sen, Kuomintang leader, arrived in Guanzhou on 22nd July 1917. On August 25th, with the support of 100 origianl members of the Chinese parliament, they convened a convention that passed a resolution to establish a military government to protect the Provisional Constitution of the Republic. On September 1st, they elected Sun Yat-sen as Generalissimo. Guangxi and Yunnan allied themselves to this movement.

The Constitutional Protection War (1917-18)

In November 1917, Duan Qirui attempted to crush the movement, but was defeated. Duan resigned as Premier because of this and it fell to President Feng Guozhang. There was a temporary armistice. War was resumed in January 1918, but things went badly for the Zhilli-Anhui forces and by July a peace settlement was made.
Sun Yat-sen’s position of Generalissimo was got rid of in May 1918 by the Movement and replaced with a council, but Sun Yat-sen believing himself to be marginalized left for Shanghai!




May 4th Movement (1919)

These were nationalistic demonstrations about the position of China at the Versailles settlement, especially over the Shandong question (the handing over of the German colonies in China, Shandong, over to Japan).

Occupation of Mongolia (1919)

In October 1919 Duan Qirui, using an army created from allied funds during the war, invaded Mongolia for several reasons (1.) Duan was discredited by the loss of Shandong to Japan, (2.) with no foreign protector since the fall of the Tsar, Mongolia would provide an easy victory, and (3.) some Mongolian princes and politicians longed for reunification. The successful invasion was met with great support and acclaim from across China. In February 1920 the Chinese commander forced the Mongolian ruling elite to bow down in a humiliating ceremony, this started active Mongolian resistance.

Zhilli-Anhui War (1920)

Tensions between the Anhui Clique and the Zhilli clique increased due to Duan Qirui’s response to the southern warlords. Anhui wanted to crush them militarily, Zhilli wanted to negotiate. The occupation of Mongolia was seen as a threat to the Fengtien Clique in Manchuria. Fengtien and Zhilli, along with southern warlords allied themselves against the Anhui clique. Both sides prepared over the early months of 1920 for war. On July 14th 1920 the Anhui clique attacked and the war began. The war lasted about a week and defeat forced Duan Qirui to resign. Zhilli became the dominant faction in China, Fengtien joined the Zhilli clique in a joint government until 1922 and the First Zhilli-Fengtien War.

Russian Invasion of Mongolia (1920)

In October 1920 Baron Roman Ungern von Sternberg swept into Mongolia and deposed the small Chinese garrison (as many troopsleft to participate in the Zhilli-Anhui war). The baron finally captured the capital Urga in Febraury 1921, kicking out the Chinese and taking control of Mongolia for himself.

The Second Constitutional Protection Movement (1920-22)

Sun Yat-sen from Shanghai reorganized the Kuomintang to depose the Guangxi Junta from the southern government. His general in Guangdong, Chen Jiongming invaded Guangxi in August 1920, deposed the Old clique and allowed the arrival of Sun Yat-sen again in Guangdong. In January 1921 the old parliament reconvened. In May 1921, after Sun’s inauguration again, he declared a Northern Expedition to reunite north and south China under the KMT. In summer 1922 he started to prepare the forces, but this led to tension with Chen Jiongming. He wanted to suspend any preparation for attack and make Guangdong more autonomous. Meanwhile the Zhilli Clique attempted to reunite north and south by getting the president (Xu Shichang) to resign in favour of a reinstated Li Yuanhong. The national assembly was reconvened back in Beijing and Chen Jiongming believed the purpose of the Movement finished. Sun Yat-sen and his followers embarked back for Shanghai on June 16th 1922.
In March 1923, Sun Yat-sen finally, once and for all takes over Guangdong Province for the KMT after driving out Chen Jiongming.

First Zhilli-Fengtien War (1922)

Despite having been joined by their defeat of Anhui in 1920, both sides in national government had numerous disputes. It all came to a head when the Zhilli clique forced the premier to be replaced without the consent on the Fengtien clique. War broke out on 10th April 1922. The British Consul at Luanzhou persuaded both sides to negotaiet. On June 18th 1922 both sides signed a peace settlement on board a British warship off the Chinese coast. The settlement made Shanhaiguan or the Shanhai Pass the border between Zhilli and Fengtien.

Second Zhilli-Fengtien War and Beijing Coup (1924)

Shanghai, still administered by the old, dying Anhui clique based in Shandong, was the cause. Zhilli demanded it, but Fengtien and Sun Yat-sen declared they would defend it. War began September 15th 1924, ended November 3rd. It was a Fengtien victory as Feng Yuxiang, who was a Zhilli general, broke away and took Beijing on 22nd October because of his sympathy for Sun Yat-sen and the KMT etc. Feng Yuxaing formed a new clique, the Guominjun. Cao Kun, Zhilli president, was deposed and Feng Yuxiang turned his forces on Wu Peifu (Zhilli major general). Wu Peifu was forced to retreat and seek refuge with his army with Sun Chuanfang in Nanjing and central China.

Yunnan-Guangxi War (1925)

After the death of Sun Yat-sen on 12th March 1925 the Yunnan commander, Tang Jiyao, proclaimed that he was now head of the Kuomintang. This was against the wishes of the provisional regime set up after Sun’s death. When Tang Jiyao invaded Guangzhou, the KMT asked the New Guangxi Clique to help them defend against them. Guangxi and the KMT defeated the Yunnan armies over the summer.
In September of that year Chen Jiongming launched his last rebellion, but was beaten. Tang Jiyao and Chen Jiongming formed the China Public Interest Party in October 1925. This put forward ideas of federalism and multi-party democracy.

May 30th Movement (1925)

This was a set of labour and anti-imperialist protests that took place after the Shanghai Municipal Police (the force that guarded the international sections of the city) shot protesters. Strikes rose up in Shanghai and Hong Kong. This forced the international community to allow greater Chinese control of the international concessions and more influence over the Shanghai Municipal Council.

Anti-Fengtien War (1925-26)

After Zhilli defeat in 1924, the control of China fell to a Triumvirate of Zhang Zuolin (Fengtien), Feng Yuxiang (Guominjun) and Duan Qirui (Anhui, who acted as figurehead president). Tensions grew between Feng and Zhang, as Zhang was a monarchist with support from Japan and Feng drew support from the USSR and dabbled in radical politics. Both sides tried to solicit the aid of the Zhilli Clique under Wu Peifu. Wu, remembering Feng’s betrayal, made a secret alliance with Fengtien in November 1925, this started the war. In October 1925 Fengtien general Guo Songling defected to the Guominjun and laid siege to Mukden, however he was killed and defeated. The Guominjun began to collapse under the pressure of fighting the Zhilli and Fengtien factions at the same time. In April 1926 Feng Yuxiang tried to appease Zhilli by releasing their former leader Cao Kun, but Wu Peifu did not respond.
With Feng defeated the Zhilli and Fengtien cliques could not decide what to do, so powerless cabinets were placed in power and removed in quick succession.

The Northern Expedition (1926-27)

Chiang Kai-shek, having gained control over the KMT in March 1926 decided to live out Sun Yat-sens dream of uniting China once more in a northern expedition against the warlords. The official commencement of the northern expedition was July 9th 1926, after a ceremony and speech by Chiang. The KMT army had been trained and equipped using funds and cadres from the USSR. Its 100,000 men crossed over and invaded the territories of Wu Peifu and Sun Chuanfang of the Zhilli Clique in the south. By 1927 southern China was under the control of the KMT (except their allies in Yunnan and Guangxi).

Shanghai Massacre of 1927

On April 12th 1927, Chiang Kai-shek ordered a purge of all the left-wing and communist allies of the KMT. This caused a civil war between the KMT and the communists. The Communists gained control of most of Jiangxi.

The Second Northern Expedition (1928)

Having crushed Wu Peifu and Sun Chuanfang in 1926-27, Chiang in January 1928 began to continue his campaigns against the Zhilli and now Fengtien warlords in the north. They reached the Yellow River by mid-April 1928, but Manchuria was still under Zhang Zuolin’s control and Beijing was under the Shanxi Clique. But on June 4th 1928, Zhang Zuolin was assassinated by Japanese officers of the Kwantung Army. This left his son, Zhang Xueliang as his successor. He made peace with Chiang and worked alongside the KMT to hopefully prevent Japanese control of Manchuria etc. Meanwhile Shanxi Clique under Yan Xishan submitted himself to Chiang.

The Northeast Flag Replacement (1928)

Zhang Xueliang, after having allied himself to Chiang Kai-shek and the KMT on December 29th 1928 changed all flags in Manchuria from the old ‘five colour’ Beiyang army flag to the new KMT flag. China was now technically reunited under the Kuomintang.


hope these help. Maybe at some point in the future i'll work on basic things after 1928 like the Central Plains war, the war with Mao and Manhcuria etc...

Hope these help in some way!

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Here are Chinese political parties and factions as well....now some will of course be only subject to the specific factiosn themselves. So you shouldn't have a Anhui faction in the Zhilli Clique etc lol. Some of the less specific warlord faction parties might be suitbale to fill up the different ideologies in the factions. Hope these help.

Beiyang Faction (conservative, state capitalism, free trade, pro military, secularism) 1890-1916
Hongxian Faction (reactionary, laissez faire, protectionism, residence, moralism, jingoism) 1915-16, Yuan Shikai’s imperial faction
Anfu Club (conservative, interventionism, free trade, jingoism, full citizenship, secularism) 1916-1925
Zhilli Faction (conservative, interventionism, protectionism, pro military, full citizenship, secularised) 1916-1928
Fengtien Faction (reactionary, interventionism, protectionism, jingoism, full citizenship, moralism) 1916-1928/30
Kuomintang (liberal, interventionism, free trade, full citizenship, secularised, pro military) 1912-1927
Kuomintang (conservative, laissez faire, protectionism, limited citizenship, secularised, jingoism) 1927-2000
Progressive Party (reactionary, state capitalism, protectionism, residence, jingoism, moralism) 1913-1916
Communications Clique (conservative, laissez faire, free trade, pro military, full citizenship) 1916-1928
Guominjun Faction (socialist, state capitalism, free trade, limited citizenship, jingoism, moralism) 1924-1940
Research Clique (conservative laissez faire, free trade, jingoism, limited citizenship) 1918-1924
China National Socialist Party (socialist, interventionism, free trade, anti military, full citizenship, pluralism) 1931-1939
China Public Interest Party (liberal, interventionism, protectionism, jingoism, full citizenship, pluralism) 1925-2000
Young China Party (reactionary, interventionism, protectionism, secularised, limited citizenship, jingoism) 1923-2000

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Ok, moving on to Makhno's faction....i've put together similar stuff. This shall hopefully make his involvement much clearer. Hope this is of use!

Approximate Extent of the Ukrainian Free Territory (Makhnovshchina):
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c3/Makhnowia.png

Makhno set up the Revolutionary Insurrectionary Army of Ukraine (RIAU) in September 1918, fighting the Germans, Austro-Hungarians and Ukrainian Hetmanate. From November 1918 to June 1919 Makhno and the RIAU carved out parts of South-eastern Ukraine and attempted to create an anarchist society. In July 1919 Red Army troops retreating from the Ukraine mutinied and then joined Makhno’s forces causing considerable strain between the Bolsheviks and Makhno.
When Denikin’s offensives in late 1919 had made massive gains the Bolsheviks made an alliance with Makhno to stop him. After the victories over Denikin in early 1920 the Bolsheviks repudiated the alliance and attacked the Free Territory and ordered Cheka and Red Army reprisals against any supporters of Makhno.
However in October 1920, due to General Wrangel’s operations in Crimea the Reds had to form another alliance with Makhno. After Wrangel’s defeat (Wrangel and his army left Crimea via British ships on November 14th) the Reds turned against Makhno again, arresting and executing Makhno’s commanders sent to a Red Army conference on 26th November. Makhno fought on, but by August 1921 his army was finally defeated and dispersed. He slipped across the Romanian border into exile.

Parties

Nabat (‘The Bell’), AKA Congress of the Confederation of Anarchist Groups, (Communist/Anarcho-Liberal?, laissez faire, free trade, full citizenship, jingoism, atheism)
Greens (Anarcho-Liberal/Socialist, interventionism, free trade, full citizenship, jingoism, secularism) these were anti-white and anti-red, regional, communal forces. This represents Ataman Nikifor Grigoriev who joined Makhno in early July 1919. But he was executed on 23rd July by Makhno after being accused of attempting to join Denikin. But it also represents the other anti-white, anti-red forces.

Makhno, despite claiming to be overly anarchist and against tools of state terror had two secret police/military/counter-intelligence forces, the Razvedka and Kommissiya Protivmakhnovskikh Del. He also instigated conscription and held strict control over the territory too.

Army sizes…
15,000 men in mid-1919
83,000 foot, 20,000 cavalry in late 1919

 

[Andrelvis]

These maps could help a bit:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/historical/history_dominions_1918.html

I would recommend especially checking out the maps "Germany's Future" (for a post-Brest-Litosvk German victory) and both "Europe: The Reconstruction" and "Europe: Popular French Conception of Reconstructed Europe 1916" (for a more decisive victory against Germany, especially if the USA doesn't enter the war on the entente's side).

 

[jamhaw]

One thing I have noticed is when Germany creates Mittleuropa, the Polish corridor is still created.

 

[Gorgo Primus]

THe Poland released should only be made up of Russian annexed territory as outlined in the Kaiser's war plans.

 

[unmerged(35351)]

A lot of useful information

Thank you for this information. It'll help me greatly to improve the Chinese Warlord Era and Russian Civil War. China post-1928 we'll deal with later. Just out of curiosity, I saw a map recently of China in 1911, but it showed Manchuria and Sinkiang outside of direct control from Beijing. Perhaps Fengtien and Siankiang should become satellites of China at the beginning of the scenario?

These maps could help a bit:
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/histo...ions_1918.html

I would recommend especially checking out the maps "Germany's Future" (for a post-Brest-Litosvk German victory) and both "Europe: The Reconstruction" and "Europe: Popular French Conception of Reconstructed Europe 1916" (for a more decisive victory against Germany, especially if the USA doesn't enter the war on the entente's side).

Thanks for the link. From what I saw, most of the territorial adjusment have been implemented for a harsher treaty. However, it has given me new ideas about a post-war Germany in case of a brutal French victory.

One thing I have noticed is when Germany creates Mittleuropa, the Polish corridor is still created.

As Gorgo Primus said, the Germans wanted to create a puppet out of Congress Poland, they never had any intention of giving lands to Poland, rather they wanted to annex parts of Congress Poland for future German colonization.

 

[Kaiser Franz]

Thank you for this information. It'll help me greatly to improve the Chinese Warlord Era and Russian Civil War. China post-1928 we'll deal with later. Just out of curiosity, I saw a map recently of China in 1911, but it showed Manchuria and Sinkiang outside of direct control from Beijing. Perhaps Fengtien and Siankiang should become satellites of China at the beginning of the scenario?

Well, i can't speak much for Sinkiang, but as for Fengtien... Zhang Zuolin in the 1911 revolutions took over Shenyang city (then known as Fengtien City) and most of Liaoning province. In 1915 the central government appointed a new commander there and tried to get Zhang to move himself and his forces to Hubei province in central China, but he obviously refused. The government commander left in April 1916, not having exercised much power at all. In April 1916 Zhang became civil and military governor of Fengtien province! Later in 1916 the division stationed in Heilongjiang pledged its alleigence to him, giving him that province. In 1918 the samer thing happened in Jilin province, this put the entire of Manchuria under Zhang's control. So Fengtien should be a satellite in 1914 of China, but not all of Manchuria under its control. events should symbolise the gradual taking over by Zhang of the region. By early 1918 he should have the entire of Manchuria. But Fengtien should break away as a satellite some time between 1916 and 1918.