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Caillean showed, so let's see if I5 shows.

Unvote Caillean, vote Ironhide
 
I don't know, while I think it's not unwise to CAWZ just to clear out the debris from the player list, it seems to me that the wolves are no more likely (and perhaps less) to be inactive than the village. I think a mixed approach would be best. I agree with Caillean that lynching Agatha would be the best way to generate information, so let's start there.

vote Agatha
 
Unofficial Vote Count:​

EUROO7: 2
MAWofDoom [109]
Witch Agatha [111]

Witch Agatha: 2
Caillean [118]
Arkasas [123]

Ironhide G1: 2
Dedonus [Alxeu 110 > 119]
Randakar [Alxeu 107 > Caillean 116 > 121]

Alxeu: 1
Wagonlitz [112]

Arkasas: 1
marty99 [106]

Wagonlitz: 1
Alxeu [113]

Not Voted: 2 :mad: :mad: :mad:
@Ironhide G1
@EUROO7
 
Come on, @Ironhide G1! We need at least 1 transformer to stay in the game
 
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alxeu said:
Sincerest apologies for being absent yesterday and most of today. Completely forgot about it yesterday, and the general lack of activity makes it hard for me to draw any useful conclusions today.

TBH, the CAWZ voting runs an unhealthy risk of wolves directing the village towards inactive villagers day after day after day until we sleepwalk into a wolf victory - and worse, even if we find a wolf by doing so, we get no information from it.

Vote Wagonlitz

The laziest of the CAWZ voters so far.

Also, Culann should look into subbing aedan or Sleepy in for anyone still absent after today, I feel.
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Because saying the same as the two above me woudn't add anything. Also, I've been under the weather today and still is to some degree. So I focused on getting a vote in, rather than focusing on text.
And while CAWZ does run risks, then having blank slates late in the game, espeically in a lite, espeically with seer dead, is super dangerous, as later you don't have the luxury of being able to lynch people for having no information, so it allows wolves for running fully under the radar. And zombie villagers are dead weight whihc often even can be harmful. Better to have them subbed or lynched.

Caillean said:
Edited because I posted it before adding text.

There is not much to go on from yesterday. The vote switch to Grimlock didn't look like a bad plan. But it was Agatha who made the choice between the four non-voted players. Lynching her to know if there was a reason to choose Grimlock instead of others might tell us something.

Vote Agatha
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Arkasas said:
I don't know, while I think it's not unwise to CAWZ just to clear out the debris from the player list, it seems to me that the wolves are no more likely (and perhaps less) to be inactive than the village. I think a mixed approach would be best. I agree with Caillean that lynching Agatha would be the best way to generate information, so let's start there.

vote Agatha
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I think that it's gonna yield exactly no information on the tie. Even if Agatha is a baddie then it was a choice of four players. The chance of all the zombies being wolves is slim, and if they were then a wolf would just sit silent instead of saying they were available for deadline.
Picking a villager over a mate for a switch just is setting up two wolves to die.


Since it seems aedan is gonna sub, but Sleepy hasn't showed, then I'll switch to one of the remaining two zombies. I'm picking Euro over IG as IG has been around lately, whereas Euro has been a zombie in quite a few games the past couple years.
Unvote alxeu
Vote EURO
 
Sorry for the delay.

Vote EURO777

Until I have time to read up on the thread.
 
Wait, has deadline already passed?
 
Due to unforeseen events, we barely got on the plane. I’ll update as soon as I land. Sorry!
 
Euroo7 the crewman (villager) is lynched.

Ironhide G1 the crewman (villager) is hunted.
 
Good game, best of luck village.

Also personally, pulling the same move on Grimlock (day one vote switch) 2 games in a row is a move in pretty poor taste.
 
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Ironhide G1 said:
Good game, best of luck village.

Also personally, pulling the same move on Grimlock (day one vote switch) 2 games in a row is a move in pretty poor taste.
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While I do agree that we should be more mindful of not running up the same players early in each game, going AFK (especially when you're the only special goodie role) messes with the game's balance. Special roles should never find themselves lynched outside of extreme circumstances (leader, cloak, etc). I learned that lesson the hard way. Plus, when you don't vote at all the whole day, it is kind of hard to defend yourself when you're not present.

And considering nobody stepped in to try to shift the vote away from Grimlock, unfortunately I believe Grimlock either scanned a wolf on Night 0, scanned a villager who who wasn't online at deadline, or scanned a villager and never told them they were scanned.
 
Colored Vote Count:​

Day 1 Pre-Vote Switch
Randakar: 2
Ironhide G1 [60]
Wagonlitz [61]

Wagonlitz: 2
MAWofDoom [62]
Arkasas [76]

Marty99: 2
Dedonus [64]
Caillean [81]

Witch Agatha: 1
Sleepyhead [66]

Sleepyhead: 1
Witch Agatha [58]

EUROO7: 1
Randakar [Witch Agatha 59 > 82]

Not Voted: 4
EUROO7
alxeu
CaptainGrimlock
marty99

Day 1 Final Vote Count
Grimlock-4
Witch Agatha [Sleepyhead 58>87]
Dedonus [Marty99 64>94]
Wagonlitz [Randakar 61>95]
Arkasas [Wagonlitz 76>96]

Randakar-1
Ironhide G1 [60]

Wagonlitz-1
MAWofDoom [62]

Marty99-1
Caillean [81]

Witch Agatha:-1
Sleepyhead [66]

EUROO7-1
Randakar [Witch Agatha 59>82]

Not Voted-4
EUROO7
alxeu
CaptainGrimlock
marty99

Day 2 Final Vote Count
EUROO7: 2
MAWofDoom [109]
Witch Agatha [111]
Wagonlitz [Alxeu 112 > 126]

Witch Agatha: 2
Caillean [118]
Arkasas [123]

Ironhide G1: 2
Dedonus [Alxeu 110 > 119]
Randakar [Alxeu 107 > Caillean 116 > 121]

Arkasas: 1
marty99 [106]

Wagonlitz: 1
Alxeu [113]

Not Voted: 2 :mad: :mad: :mad:
Ironhide G1
EUROO7
 
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We have nine players left. Considering we started with 14 players, this game probably started with 2 or 3 wolves (7/2 or 6/3 villager/wolf ratio).

If we were to make a tie today, with a 2 wolf setup, in the worst case scenario, we would be 4 villagers vs. 2 wolves (2 lynched, 1 hunted). But with a 3 wolf scenario, unless we hit one of the three wolves, a tie would cause parity (3 villagers vs 3 wolves).

I'll place a vote on someone who hasn't received many votes so far this game and I'll go from there.

Vote MAWofDoom
 
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