You wish, I draw 4 colors to your pathetic 3 colors. Fear my versatility!Pft. I will just get you airlocked there in revenge
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Looks like Kehaar went from "plus" to "totally worth it". Let's tie him with someone else then. I suggest Jopi.
Why Jopi you'd ask, why not Jonti-h as per my analysis?
Well, folks, I'll tell you why. Jonti-h has developped the art of poor voting and looking suspect to its finer extent. Picasso once said "my mother told me if I became a military I'd be a general, if I became a politician I'd prime minister. Instead I became an artist and I am Picasso."
I suppose Jonti-h's mother told him he would have a hard time being a goodie in WW, and he became Jonti-h. No one could ever beat him in being a bad goodie. Last game I played with him he lynched every single innocent he could and he turned out to be a villager. When I confronted him with his poor vote record his line of defense was something along: "bugger off twat".
These are the reasons I don't consider lynching jonti-h a good thing yet.
Why Jopi you'd ask, why not Jonti-h as per my analysis?
Well, folks, I'll tell you why. Jonti-h has developped the art of poor voting and looking suspect to its finer extent. Picasso once said "my mother told me if I became a military I'd be a general, if I became a politician I'd prime minister. Instead I became an artist and I am Picasso."
I suppose Jonti-h's mother told him he would have a hard time being a goodie in WW, and he became Jonti-h. No one could ever beat him in being a bad goodie. Last game I played with him he lynched every single innocent he could and he turned out to be a villager. When I confronted him with his poor vote record his line of defense was something along: "bugger off twat".
These are the reasons I don't consider lynching jonti-h a good thing yet.
Thread reread. Day 2:
That makes me :rofl:. Really, if Euro hunted Paendrag, this is quite funny
So maybe he didn't. It's been a theme with him this game - he complained about both lynches and hunts at the start.
Nice work. Too bad that the_hdk was an atheïst though .. so it doesn't clear Jopi much.
ehm.. yes. Really.
That one convinced me to lay off Jacob for a while, but it does make me wonder.
Again, the theme here is easy to spot "do not vote the old school guys".
Well, sorry, but Jacob voting himself pretty much makes that vote deserved..
A while later:
At the time I found this vote a bit odd. People create ties for the sake of creating ties all the time. Is he protecting Johho the infidel here?
The way he says this seems rather certain to get followers, in any case. It seems to me that Rysz really wanted walrus dead. Surely it risked people following him onto walrus, and it's the second time he does that.
I still don't really think Rysz is a decent schismatic suspect, judging from this.
That makes me :rofl:. Really, if Euro hunted Paendrag, this is quite funny
So maybe he didn't. It's been a theme with him this game - he complained about both lynches and hunts at the start.
Nice work. Too bad that the_hdk was an atheïst though .. so it doesn't clear Jopi much.
ehm.. yes. Really.
That one convinced me to lay off Jacob for a while, but it does make me wonder.
Again, the theme here is easy to spot "do not vote the old school guys".
Well, sorry, but Jacob voting himself pretty much makes that vote deserved..
A while later:
At the time I found this vote a bit odd. People create ties for the sake of creating ties all the time. Is he protecting Johho the infidel here?
The way he says this seems rather certain to get followers, in any case. It seems to me that Rysz really wanted walrus dead. Surely it risked people following him onto walrus, and it's the second time he does that.
I still don't really think Rysz is a decent schismatic suspect, judging from this.
I can draw everything, silly person. Even Treachery. Just let the president play a few Quorum cards
.. but we are starting to veer off-topic here.
edit:
This shows you why just looking at votes isn't enough. You have to look at things in context.
:rofl:
Well said, but unfortunately that just means he has to be lynched for his vote record more often
Hmm, interesting, ill change my vote possibly before i leave 2 hours before deadline.
I have a better idea. Make a 13-way tie and end this game right now so I can play again.
[OOC]In my defence - I strive towards perfection and preciseness. It really annoys me that people cannot get the time right, whether it be the GM or the people playing the game. I have plenty of experience of GMing other MP games and I always make a keen effort to present to people the start time of said game in three timezones: GMT, CET and EST, so as to ensure the time the game starts is not confusing and can be understood by all. The whole argument over what time the deadline was that night, the one you have quoted my posts from, highly annoyed me simply because of my OCDness when it comes to getting things like this right. The fact reis91 had not made it very clear added to the confusion. Also I wasn't the only one making this point about the time issue that night - I even recall drxaz backing me up. So please don't use that as evidence to lynch me, because it would also annoy me to think my efforts to try and improve this game and future games would get me lynched now.[/OOC]
I like the argument against Kehaar
Vote Kehaar
I hope I still have internet access at home so I may post something more useful later on.
Vote Kehaar
I hope I still have internet access at home so I may post something more useful later on.
This goes along other parameters.
It may do in your eyes, having been presented to you through randakar's analysis, but then it could also be coincidence.
There's some neutral perspective for you.
randakar, drxav:
While you guys really do have some good insight, you also talk too much.
VOTE JOPI
While you guys really do have some good insight, you also talk too much.
VOTE JOPI
[OOC]I wasn't online for some of the game and couldn't change my vote accordingly and thus only look like a baddie due to not being online 24/7[/OOC]
I don't deal with coincidence and neutral perspective. I deal with odds.
hmm, maybe. It's a race now - I have to find the baddies before they eat me. So forgive me for going all out in an attempt to figure out this game before it ends on me.
Day 2 thread reread, continued.
That puts Adamus ahead of Johho the infidel. Up goes the infidel-o-meter ..
I did notice that. And if wasn't for me noticing he lynched EL earlier he might have swung, too.
A very significant vote against the Atheist Sedracus, but also significant in the sense that Johho the infidel is still getting run up. He had to know that I still wanted Sedracus lynched, so it could have been an attempt to get Johho off the hook. However, his earlier vote on Euro seems to disagree with the Infidel Rysz theory.
Interesting nitpick:
.. why did I miss this? That made it pretty obvious that the Atheists had a spy ..
That puts Adamus ahead of Johho the infidel. Up goes the infidel-o-meter ..
.. which breaks the tie, and pushes Adamus even further ahead.
Despite my arguments against his lynch
I did notice that. And if wasn't for me noticing he lynched EL earlier he might have swung, too.
A very significant vote against the Atheist Sedracus, but also significant in the sense that Johho the infidel is still getting run up. He had to know that I still wanted Sedracus lynched, so it could have been an attempt to get Johho off the hook. However, his earlier vote on Euro seems to disagree with the Infidel Rysz theory.
Interesting nitpick:
.. why did I miss this? That made it pretty obvious that the Atheists had a spy ..
Thread reread. Day 2:
That makes me :rofl:. Really, if Euro hunted Paendrag, this is quite funny
Whether EURO did that or not, I was the creater of the "mock your own actions" tactic. By accident. In Warthogs I forgot to send a backup order one day. A leader changed the lynch to my hunt target and a no kill occured.
I immediately went in the thread....and mocked the wolves for being so amatuerish as to forget a backup order and claimed it as evidence of my certain innocence.
A good player can use anything to their advantage. Even a really stupid mistake.
As a villager, I don't usually like to make decisive votes in the early days. Firstly, it gives people the illusion that they know something about me, by allowing them to make conclusions based on my uninformed votes. Secondly, it always has the chance to backfire. Saving someone you don't know to be a bad guy or lynching the seer can (and usually will) come back to haunt you. However, in this game the situation is reversed, due to the large number of bad guys. I already pointed this fact out in an earlier post.
I don't want to let randakar and drxav to do all the discussion here. While their candidates (except me, of course) would all be good lynches, I'd like to bring up Ciryandor. He voted Oy for 3 days, and then voted Najs on the day he was killed. The votes on OY were total throwaways, until OY was killed. I think they were bad votes, since there was no real case against OY. I haven't seen Ciry's name up there, and I wonder why. He killed the Infidel Najs, but I guess we're looking for a Schismatic today. I'd say he is a pretty good candidate.
Vote Ciryandor
I don't want to let randakar and drxav to do all the discussion here. While their candidates (except me, of course) would all be good lynches, I'd like to bring up Ciryandor. He voted Oy for 3 days, and then voted Najs on the day he was killed. The votes on OY were total throwaways, until OY was killed. I think they were bad votes, since there was no real case against OY. I haven't seen Ciry's name up there, and I wonder why. He killed the Infidel Najs, but I guess we're looking for a Schismatic today. I'd say he is a pretty good candidate.
Vote Ciryandor