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I assume it's Wagon voting Ironhide, not Ironhide himself, yes?
 
Wagonlitz said:
For the record I have come to think that Audren might well be the last orange actually. His witness claim didn't come until after deadline. He obviously was in contact with the JL, but that also was wiped out. Now that could well juts be Rovs figuring out Sleepy was priest, since sleepy did play differently.
The PMs he sent me seems legit, but they could well have been doctored and Rovs was a vamp so it could well be that it was sleepy who scanned Rovs.

I think IG is more likely though, since Audren has a somewhat decent voting record and among other things were one of the only ones to follow the k-59 outing. As an orange wolf there would be no reason to do that given how close to deadline the outing was.
But the reds had two wolves and 1 vamp; the oranges could have the same---or two vamps and 1 wolf for scanner balance. He could also be witch, since sleepy cannot scan for that. Interesting his remark on Hazbot not being able to be witch.
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Wagonlitz said:
I am getting way more wary about Audren. Both because how he thought the priest could scan for witches and not sorcs which would fit well with him being witch or wolf and the witch having scanned sleepy.

On the other hand most goodies have had zilch traits and the only traits so far was an apprentice which can swap both ways, a curse which is a detriment to the village, an OEO, and a leader. Then there were four important goodies; that is pretty standard though---especially with two important baddies. So having a witness---or an assassin, but if there was one we would have heard from him by now---is pretty much needed for this not to be really unbalanced. And nobody has countered his witness claim meaning there probably isn't another witness.


Marshall is also a decent bet, but he has seemed really goodie like. And he did vote Rovs the day Rovs and wombat were run up; though he was the first voter and could have got stuck there. He also was somewhat prominent in getting Rovs run up yesterday though. So probably not baddie, but could be if they knew Rovs had been scanned/witnessed.

Jerman could be witch; pretty certain he isn't orange due to Rovs gunning for him on the day Jerman and Yakman were run up and k-59 going for a TIE between Jerman and Yakman. Though Jerman could well be a witch.

Hazbot could still be a wolf, but then Rovs is more ruthless than aedan.



Though I don't really like how everybody except IG and Jerman are voting IG; either I am wrong, Jerman is witch, or a baddie is voting IG waiting to snipe. The latter doesn't make much sense though, since with just one wolf left they need him to survive so why gamble...
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Wagonlitz said:
Also for the record the reason I am not posting this before deadline, but posting it in the role PM is firstly to show I did think about this before deadline, secondly because I might post it at deadline, and thirdly because given how we need all goodies on the same person we need to have ice in our stomachs and roll with our choice. It may be wrong, but we shouldn't start changing things now (now being a little over 2 hours to deadline when I posted the first post here) since there is way to little time left.
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Wagonlitz said:
Also if Audren isn't hunted tonight and the village survives, then Audren is a likely baddie since firstly he wasn't aware that the witness can witness multiple times until I pointed it out to him (could be an innocent mistake though, but still noteworthy), secondly the baddies would be incompetent to not hunt a witness which can still witness, and thirdly even if the baddies haven't realised he can still witness then he is still a cleared goodie so taking him out is the thing to do.
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Ice in your stomachs? I'm not familiar with the expression.
 
Final Vote Count

Hazbot: 4
Ironhide [715]
JermanTK [716]
Audren [720 Hazbot -> 722 Ironhide -> 736]
Gen. Marshall [719 Hazbot -> 727 ironhide -> 737]

Ironhide: 2
Wagonlitz2.0 [721]
Hazbot [718 Jerman -> 726]
 
Gen. Marshall said:
Wait... what the hell are you smoking, Wagon?
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What do you mean? The game is over at latest tomorrow night. We are 6 man left; if the game doesn't end tonight then there are 4 man left tomorrow. That means that no matter what parity is reached in 24 hours lest we bag the wolf. There is no reason to keep anything hidden anymore.
 
Audren said:
Ice in your stomachs? I'm not familiar with the expression.
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I think it might be like "Ice in your veins" as in, you stick by what you're doing no matter what, as if you were an uncaring being. (i.e. cold-blooded)
 
Audren said:
Ice in your stomachs? I'm not familiar with the expression.
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Having ice in your stomach means that you keep calm and rational. That despite getting lots of doubt shortly before something important you keep the decision you made earlier when you could think more rational and that you don't make rash, impulse decisions.
Having ice in your stomach will most of the time yield the best result. Though some people plain and simply don't have ice in their stomachs.
 
Rovsea said:
I think it might be like "Ice in your veins" as in, you stick by what you're doing no matter what, as if you were an uncaring being. (i.e. cold-blooded)
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Seems rather similar.
 
Wagonlitz said:
What do you mean? The game is over at latest tomorrow night. We are 6 man left; if the game doesn't end tonight then there are 4 man left tomorrow. That means that no matter what parity is reached in 24 hours lest we bag the wolf. There is no reason to keep anything hidden anymore.
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Yeah, it took me a while to realize what you meant. I thought you were a baddie conceding the win to goodie Audren but then you posted that flurry of messages. So ehr... I hope I didn't just cost us the win?
 
Wagonlitz said:
Having ice in your stomach means that you keep calm and rational. That despite getting lots of doubt shortly before something important you keep the decision you made earlier when you could think more rational and that you don't make rash, impulse decisions.
Having ice in your stomach will most of the time yield the best result. Though some people plain and simply don't have ice in their stomachs.
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in the states, the phrase is "ice water in one's veins" - same concept, cool under fire.
 
I have a bad feeling about this.
 
Forgot to add a suspicion point against Audren: Sleepy was brutalised pretty much instantly after contacting Audren. Or I think I did mention it; but no damage in reiterating.
 
Wagonlitz said:
Forgot to add a suspicion point against Audren: Sleepy was brutalised pretty much instantly after contacting Audren. Or I think I did mention it; but no damage in reiterating.
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No he wasn't. Sleepy was brutalized days after I talked to him. I told you as much.
 
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