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Where is GUG? If he isn't going to show up, then we should recreate the TIE.
 
Where is GUG? If he isn't going to show up, then we should recreate the TIE.
It IS very annoying that he has't voted yet, but we can recreate the TIE in another hour or two if necessary, we have plenty of time right now.
 
Well, hello everyone. I was busy playing some Vicky, which I got for my birthday (yesterday coincidentally).
Alright, I know I am a villager. So for now
Vote Rovsea
I'll go through the thread and post some analysis to explain my vote, just wanted to put this out now.
 
Well, hello everyone. I was busy playing some Vicky, which I got for my birthday (yesterday coincidentally).
Alright, I know I am a villager. So for now
Vote Rovsea
I'll go through the thread and post some analysis to explain my vote, just wanted to put this out now.
As you look through the thread, I'm sure you'll notice that the JL has decreed that a TIE must be made, and that you should be in it. You may vote whoever you want, but Cymsdale DID issue a warning against whomever should go against the ordained TIE. Fair warning to ya.
 
AedanWolf was putting Rovsea ahead of Leondark.

Scenario: One of Rovsea and Leondark is a wolf, who does Aedan vote for? The blunt force tactic is to place it on the non-wolf. The subtler tactic is to place it on the wolf, because then you have a stronger opportunity to save them down the road. Which type of player is Aedan?

Vote Rovsea
In what will become a pattern, Cymsdale decides to vote Rovsea based on Aedan's votes and playing ability.
Shamelessly taken from Cyms, Wagon, and others:

Since we have so much time left in the day, I'm updating Wagon's last color count so we can speculate on the signficance of Aedanwolf:

Colour count:


Night 1:

JohnKjeken is hunted


Day 1:

Gorganslayer: 6
Leondark [138]
GreatUberGeek [150]
Al-Aziz [127 madchemist -> 191 Xarkan -> 195]
LatinKaiser [147 Arkasas -> 214]
Rovsea [121 Xarkan -> 192 GreatUberGeek -> 216]
madchemist [136 LatinKaiser -> 211 GreatUberGeek -> 226 Rovsea ->243]

madchemist: 3
brovahkiin [146]
Xarkan [158]
Arkasas [149 Leondark -> 216]

Rovsea: 1
Cymsdale [124 Rovsea -> 163 madchemist -> 222]

LatinKaiser: 1
happycats517 [129]

GreatUberGeek: 1
aedan777 [132]

Xarkan: 1
Wagonlitz [142 DutchGuy -> 166]

Cymsdale: 1
Gorganslayer [140]

Noco: 1
DutchGuy [153]

DutchGuy: 1
Noco19 [170]

Not voted: 0


Gorganslayer is lynched


Night 2:

Arkasas is hunted


Day 2:

brovahkiin: 6
happycats517 [288 Rovsea -> 333]
LatinKaiser [287 Wagonlitz -> 335]
Wagonlitz [257 LatinKaiser -> 264 unvote -> 275 Cymsdale -> 343]
aedan777 [292 Rovsea -> 344]
Leondark [347]
Noco19 [298 DutchGuy -> 313 Wagonlitz -> 349]

Wagonlitz: 4
DutchGuy [285]
Xarkan [289]
GreatUberGeek [262 madchemist -> 360]
Rovsea [258 madchemist -> 328 LatinKaiser -> 346 brovahkiin -> 368]

Rovsea: 2
Cymsdale [286]
Al-Aziz [299 LatinKaiser -> 317]

madchemist: 1
brovahkiin [353]

LatinKaiser: 1
madchemist [282]

Not voted: 0


brovahkiin is lynched


Night 3:

happycats517 is hunted

For proper meassure in case I am hunted tonight:

Pre outing count

Rovsea: 4
Wagonlitz [394]
LatinKaiser [414]
Al-Aziz [420]
aedan777 [423]

Leondark: 3
Cymsdale [396]
Xarkan [410]
GreatUberGeek [412]

Wagonlitz: 1
DutchGuy [398]

Not voted: 4
Leondark []
Noco19 []
Rovsea []
madchemist []
GuG D whatever this was.
A vote count of sorts
DutchGuy: 5
Rovsea
Leondark
LatinKaiser
GuG
Noco

Rovsea: 2
Cymsdale
Xarkan

Leondark: 2
Al-Aziz
DutchGuy

Not voted:
Madchemist

I believe this is correct.
On D1 I voted Gorganslayer (along with our seer, I might add). The D2 switch to Wagon was because of I don't really like bandwagons and wanted the vote to be closer, thereby putting pressure on both. Btw, I was not aware Wagon was the confirmed JL until the next day.
Ok, I'm subbing madchemist. I'll try to do a proper readthrough later when I have time (Independence day here so all kinds of stuff going on). For now I'll

vote Leondark

as I vaguely recall Aedan preferred other candidates over him. And since the day has seen no votes so far I think somebody better start the voting so it won't be total zombiefest. Though I believe there's quite a few players who haven't seen any attention whatsoever at this point - though I could be wrong about that as I've not really paid attention to the details as a ghost.
Skobie the wolf votes Leondark. This might clear him, though this might be an alibi vote as well. I'm leaning towards alibi vote.
Vote Great Uber Geek

He hasn't gotten much attention, he was not voting brovakhin the wolf but rather Wagon, and jumped on the DG wagon rather quickly yesterday.
I already explained why I voted Wagon. I voted DG because Rovsea was pressuring me to vote in the IRC and his half-Crovax where he called Xarkan his fellow wolf-hunter.
vote Rovsea

How many times is this wolf going to be saved anyway?
Cymsdale again pressures Rovsea.
Cymsdale comes out of the gates swinging. (I just ironically used Cyms' own words in describing him without realizing it)


Was this actually a correct translation?


This was quite clearly a first day throw-away vote.


Interestingly, MC has been quiet all game since this first day. (Or, at least, nothing sticks in my mind right now). I find it mildly odd that he attracted no attention for something so out of character with his playstyle. However, I do not personally find this incriminating for Skobie right now, as MC needed a sub, and generally tries to be active regardless of role (I assume, not sure if I've played with him when he was a wolf).


I find it bemusing and interesting that I get questioned for saving Xarkan when at least 4 different people publicly stating that MC should be saved doesn't lift an eyebrow. If I had to guess, I'd say that there was either a wolf trying to save MC, or a wolf Voting MC.


Seems Arky was just trying to be arbitrary and cruel. Not entirely out of character. :p

Day 2: Cymsdale was throwing quite a bit of stuff around, and that sparked disagreements on several different levels, especially with al-Aziz, and possibly Wagon as well. Cymsdale and al-Aziz are more suspicious in my book (after reading through some of this stuff), but I would find it fairly unlikely for them both to be furry.


MC actually replies with quite a bit of stuff, scratch what I was thinking about him being inactive after Day 1. Not sure how that bears on playstyle and potential wolfishness, though.


Cyms was in no danger here (One vote was on him, and that was just the third or fourth of the day). This makes him look more suspicious in my eyes, as if he is wary about any pressure.


LK puts some pressure on Wagon. Not sure what the relevance here is yet.


Given the situation (DG had just made a very bad one sentence case against Wagon), this is actually fairly poor reasoning. Could be a move from a newb wolf under pressure.


After this post, Aziz is a less likely wolf than before. Wolves simply don't draw attention to themselves as she is doing here.

That's all of the earlier stuff. I might come back to look at more recent events after food, but for now I'll leave you with this.

Unvote LatinKaiser, Vote Cymsdale
Rovsea tries to both clear a known wolf and accuses a confirmed JL member.
Cymsdale, d o you think that maybe you're kinda tunnelvisioning a bit?
Vote Cymsdale
I vote Cymsdale for what I thought was tunnelvisioning on Rovsea. However, since he was in the JL, his constant accusations at Rovsea might be something more.
Ok, did read the thread quickly and couple of points that I picked up. I deleted tons of quotes which I had picked up so it's by no means anything resembling thorough analysis.




So. I don't think LK is a good lynch based how he put brovahkiin up as a lynch candidate.





GuG seems decent candidate based on this:



Tries to diffuse the voting on brovahkiin the wolf and move the votes to Wagonlitz the JL spokesman.





And this also fits in the "better get alibi vote in quickly as the wagon is rumbling onwards" which Wagonlitz points out immediately.


This is just before Wagonlitz outs Aedan (I guess he was just waiting for Aedan to vote).



He's voting in support of Leondark. Aedan says it's tie time but actually he puts Rovsea ahead there. Not sure if it's simple mistake (thinking it's tie, not the vote itself), voting packmate for alibi or protecting Leondark. Could go either way.




Here Leondark makes bigger post and points finger at DutchGuy the villager.





No, I said I was going to try to read the whole thread since I haven't really paid attention to the game as a ghost. Besides, it was two hours before that post of yours and like I said, independence day here so all kinds of mandatory stuff to do.



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So, my choice would be (and is) Leondark. Sure, he voted brovahkiin but that was first vote of the day and only at the deadline brovahkiin the wolf became real candidate so could very well have been fishing for alibi there.

I'd leave LK alone for now since he suggested brovahkiin lynch in the first place. It seems votes shifted away from him before I had finished the read.
Again, Wolfskobie tries to cast suspicion on Leondark.
Standard.
























Browolf wagon.




MC opposes. (Despite CAWZ.)

Aedan agrees and backstabs.


Following MC GuG switches off to wagon.

Rovsea follows! Interesting that Rovs was the one attacked when GuG started it.

Next day:






GuG follows Xarkan and Cyms. (False evidence- throughout Leon has been vocal- probably just reputation? He said he hadn't seen Leon's post but Leon had already posted an analysis prior to the analysis poster after this post. Also, bandwagon.) (also my quotes are in the wrong order. :( It's not too bad.)




Then Rovs and Leon are apparently okay lynches according to aedan. (Less good wolves.)




(I think this may be the next day.)

Or maybe he was triple scheming! :p








votes DG following Leon's case.




Follows Rovs. Has been simply following others. :(





That's it. GuG looks more and more like a wolf to me. Aedan liked Leon and Rovs as candidates and TIEd them, or advocated doing so, so less likely Wolves. okay.

You should vote GuG because he has been coasting along on others' cases and refusing to make decisions.
The seer puts together an argument against me. Her final sentence, however, is not enough to condemn me. Coasting on others is unfortunately mostly what I do in WW, which I would like to rectify.
You all ready for this?

Gen. Skobelev (formerly madchemist) is a scanned wolf.

Unvote Rovsea
Vote Gen. Skobelev
Cymsdale outs Skobelev. He is lynched, and I wasn't around much yesterday, (see: birthday), thus couldn't vote the wolf.
Vote GreatUberGerk

Again, he has been extremely suspicious this entire game. See yesterday's posts for analysis.
LK coasts on others' cases.
I'd also like to point out that he put a vote on now confirmed JL member, Cymsdale, for "tunnel-visioning".

Not sure if that's significant, make of it what you will, just something I noticed before I got to the GuG analysis on the other page.
Already explained.
If the other members of the justice league wish to out themselves, I will confirm it.

I will confirm that Leondark is NOT a member.

vote GUG
Cymsdale votes me. No reasons given.
Unvote GUG
Vote Rovsea

Good point. Everyone vote Rovsea.

Why not? Do you have any proof that you are not a wolf?



Why are you guessing how many JL members remain? This is information very helpful to the last remaining wolf. If you are a villager (which I doubt) then all you are is blurting out information that is potentially helpful to the last wolf. Very useful to the village, not.

You die today.
Cymsdale push Rovsea over three posts, putting together an argument against him.Also note that Rovsea tried to guess how many JL members there were, info which could, as Cyms points out, could help the wolf.
I'm trying to make sure that I can find the last wolf, and not waste my vote on a JL member. Besides which, the last wolf doesn't even need to know anybody else besides you on the JL. The day after tomorrow is parity.

Also, as to proof that I am not a wolf: A.) You put me at a disadvantage merely by asking for defense, as everybody knows a good defense is a better ofense (in this game at least), B.) Though I was a part of the Gorgan voters who decided to save Madchemist over Gorgan, that does not mean that I am a wolf. The seer did the same thing. A lot of confirmed villagers supported MC over Gorgan. C.) Day 2. Looking back it, my vote from Bro to Wagon was a stupid move, but do you really believe that a wolf would do that? I don't even remember how I thought it would make sense. I just had an uneasy feeling, and when I got back on there was basically no time left. D.) I didn't vote before the outing Day 3. E.) Sure I was among the first DutchGuy voters, but honestly, killing him is only beneficial to the village (usually (I assume I was one of the first based on al-Aziz's count).

There is no compelling reason to vote me based off of vote analysis, that I can see, but perhaps I'm biased. Can you provide a logical reason to vote me? Surely, the number of times you have this game, you can present something more solid against me than calling for my defense?
Rovsea tries to argue how he is not a wolf. A. is somewhat odd, as it isn't really an argument, than a reason why Cyms shouldn't have accused him. B. I would like to note that I also voted Gorganslayer. If this applies, it applies to me as well. C. Again, if this applies to Rovsea, it applies to me. D. This is true. Not sure how it means he isn't a wolf. E. This is unfortunately true, though as noted Rovsea pressured me to vote that day.
Actually, GUG and Rovsea are smart enough to alibi vote, so...
This is true, but half the time I forget to.
GuG, there is absolutely no reason for you to have not voted yet.
Biiiiirthday! I got nearly all books, and only two weren't history books. It was absolutely wonderful.
As you look through the thread, I'm sure you'll notice that the JL has decreed that a TIE must be made, and that you should be in it. You may vote whoever you want, but Cymsdale DID issue a warning against whomever should go against the ordained TIE. Fair warning to ya.
Touché.
Unvote Rovsea
Vote Noco

Please don't hurt me, mighty JL.
 
In the event that both of you are villagers, the JL appreciates your analysis. Not that I'll be around to use it.
Stop being so negative and hope for the best.
 
THE JUSTICE LEAGUE HAS DECREED THAT ROVSEA AND GREATUBERGEEK ARE TO BE TIED. ANY SNIPERS WILL BE LYNCHED ON THE MORROW.

We thank you for your cooperation.
 
*Pulls chair up*

This has gotten interesting. Big red letters are always interesting. Skobelev, get your popcorn!
 
Unvote Noco
Vote Rovsea

I can get behind this.
 
Vote Count:

GreatUberGeek: 3
LatinKaiser
Leondark
Noco19

Rovsea: 2
Cymsdale
GreatUberGeek

Noco19: 1
Rovsea



Unvote GUG
Vote Rovsea
 
Unvote Rovsea
Vote LatinKaiser


Throwaway for TIE.
 
Well, hello everyone. I was busy playing some Vicky, which I got for my birthday (yesterday coincidentally).
Alright, I know I am a villager. So for now
Vote Rovsea
I'll go through the thread and post some analysis to explain my vote, just wanted to put this out now.
Is that the Christmas Special version of your flag? :p