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So you killed the danger instead of accepting the challenge. Noted.

Indeed. Now all of us know how you play as a wolf.
 
Rofl, you blame me? After acting like you did, you expected me to believe you were innocent? I know the human mind has this tendency to blame others, but seriously... you're a bit over the top on that one.

Apparently the terrible things I did convinced the village I was a wolf, thus explaining the fact I was lynched right away.

Seriously what were your grounds to think I was a wolf? I said the game got random, period. I apparently was right since that was sufficient to tag me a wolf for you.

May I point out you're the reason my name got in the light in the first place, and after your reincarnation you insisted in that direction and caused the fatal tie.
 
The village was doomed to fail, that tie was setup 3 hours before deadline and you didn't do anything about it. Actually, reis even suggested to make the tie :D
 
The village was doomed to fail, that tie was setup 3 hours before deadline and you didn't do anything about it. Actually, reis even suggested to make the tie :D

Either I was right, and the wolves would get punished, or it would all be over fast. But some things get on my nerves, really...

drxav said:
I genuinely thought Xeno was in it. Still had 2 of you out of 3, but well, I had said the village was doomed 2 days ago. I was right.

Of course it was, with that attitude and behavior...

Seriously what were your grounds to think I was a wolf?

Destroying analysis, mud-slinging, over-reacting, you name it...
 
A bit cowardly to kill Randy on day one.

There was only one person in the game that I was pretty sure would hunt me this early - EL.
Why his name was never brought up .. well, really, some people have an obsession.
 
There was only one person in the game that I was pretty sure would hunt me this early - EL.
Why his name was never brought up .. well, really, some people have an obsession.

I have no idea who any of you are anymore.
 
Of course it was, with that attitude and behavior...

Destroying analysis, mud-slinging, over-reacting, you name it...

Saying game got random = wolf. Fine.

My analysis destruction did get 2 wolves on my list and didn't call for a tie that made the village lose.

But well I'm done arguing with you, it's like banging your head on a wall.
 
I took Xeno to be a baddie because of exhibit A: He broke the tie in enkhuush's favor day 1 yet wanted a tie between myself and Reis.

exhibit B:
I am guessing I will probably be a prime suspect today so I'll say this in my defense. The reason I wanted reis to vote trespoe and create a tie was that I honestly guessed him for a wolf, because of his mis-reading of the end of the first day. He talked about how me and reis were making ties just because and due to maliciousness respectively, and both of those are false. This struck me as a wolf trying to misdirect the village.

what was said was....

Anyway reis91 and Xeno, I didn't like your toying with votes. Because of your votes, there could have been ties.

what I said was...
I think Xeno was just making a tie. Reis, on the other hand....

why not. not sure about Boris' comment, but Reis is putting doubt onto him, also.

I actually defended Xeno.

That made me think Xeno and enkhuush were together in it. I figured #3 was a quiet one, like guy or Split or yes, even El

I wasn't really sure about ese, but I figured enk would be a wolf after trespoe came up a villager (he latched onto trespoe's accusation of reis being an evil tie maker, which was incorrect but was enough to get him lynched apparently) and el was blowing smoke in his posts by and large. Well played there E-team.

I didn't say evil tie-maker. I didn't like his strange voting shenanigans on Day 1.


Are you sure you didn't get enkhuush and I confused?
 
My analysis destruction did get 2 wolves on my list and didn't call for a tie that made the village lose.

Quote, please. And quote your action on it. Also, day 3, you were happy enough to keep silent when xeno wanted me to kill trespoe, who didn't do anything suspicious like both of you did.
 
Quote, please. And quote your action on it.

Beauty is a manifestation of secret natural laws, which otherwise would have been hidden from us forever.

-Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
 
He cleared adamus night zero and was going to scan xeno night 1.

Myeah. I send in two random scans when I got my role PM and never changed them. Xeno sounded like a good idea to scan anyway, since he's a bit of an unknown to me.


I will say this: when people randomly vote, or think "he's a wolf because he said the game got random" or only bother trying to survive, this is what happens. I pretty much knew from the moment Randy got killed where this game was headed.

Self fulfilling prophesy, drxav. Ever heard of em'?
You didn't even -want- to find the wolves. All you wanted to do was rant at Reis, to the point of self destruction.

I knew ese was a wolf.

*everyone* knew Ese was a wolf. And Enkhuush. Yet absolutely nobody voted him.
The village could have won this with ease.

Sending in the hunt order for Randy had a completely logical reasoning behind it. Randy knows how I like to play wolf very well, and well I am working on adjusting it I am not sure that I managed to do so enough just yet. I am almost certain that Randy was looking at this at the start of the day and was able to tell that both me and at least one of my pack was wolves.

Myeah. Your first vote of the game already made me go .. hmm. Hiding again? .. maybe.
But I wasn't ready to act on it just yet.

Really, you got lucky with that hunt. If I had been a villager instead of a seer I'd just have requested a sub and gotten it. And then I would have started speculating about who might have send in that particular order ..

I have no idea who any of you are anymore.

*comfort*
 
Everyone is blaming everyone else, claiming the village could have still won this. I know I didn't do much to win this, but man, is this entertaining.

Also, what made me so obvious?
 
Self fulfilling prophesy, drxav. Ever heard of em'?
You didn't even -want- to find the wolves. All you wanted to do was rant at Reis, to the point of self destruction.

Oh come on not you randy!

I admit I was a bit of a defeatist on page 5 and 6, but well I didn't really gave it up.


As for the Reis thing, I didn't even start it. I gave my reasons for voting him in the first place:

I'm voting Reis for not voting. I hate people hiding their behaviour in non votes. Also because you'll do your best to look suspicious and are thus a nuisance for analysis.

The guy can't stand being voted so he revenge voted me and started making accusations like:

You could have been behind the killing, having the argument already made up to blame the inexperienced/weaklings. Knowing that randakar isn't easy to lynch, and does some analysis independently of knowing the seer or not, he would be a good hunt, if you want to convince the village to act "random". Thus, you just revealed one possible motive, in that slip (Xavian slip? ).

The rest of his posts just pissed me off and killed my desire to invest myself in that game knowing i was up against that sort of reasoning.
 
The point is, you let your emotions decide for you who to vote and who to argue for. You didn't vote reis because he was the most likely person to be a wolf, you voted him because you hated his behaviour. That is what I call "giving up".
It's a trap, drxav. One I have to try to avoid every game. You can't afford to shut down your mind on all options, you need to evaluate the entire game in context. You didn't do that - you developed tunnel vision instead.

The same thing pretty much applies to Reis, but the difference there is that I -know- you can pull yourself together and start thinking about the big picture. You just didn't do it. Reis .. I rarely see him apply sound logic - or indeed, logic that isn't either a contorted abomination or so full of holes I have difficulty explaining even where to begin with pointing out the flaws - so there is just no way for me to adress it.
 
The point is, you let your emotions decide for you who to vote and who to argue for. You didn't vote reis because he was the most likely person to be a wolf, you voted him because you hated his behaviour. That is what I call "giving up".
It's a trap, drxav. One I have to try to avoid every game. You can't afford to shut down your mind on all options, you need to evaluate the entire game in context. You didn't do that - you developed tunnel vision instead.

The same thing pretty much applies to Reis, but the difference there is that I -know- you can pull yourself together and start thinking about the big picture. You just didn't do it. Reis .. I rarely see him apply sound logic - or indeed, logic that isn't either a contorted abomination or so full of holes I have difficulty explaining even where to begin with pointing out the flaws - so there is just no way for me to adress it.

Did it in the end. And at some point I thought Reis was a wolf, after all his moaning and crying and not making sense. The whole "making himself suspicious" thing (he PMed me about it once, so it's a genuine strategy) is killing the game. He plays to survive, I play to help my side, and I really think it hurts the game.

Note that I didn't vote his reincarnation, while his reincarnation voted me.