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Everyone is blaming everyone else, claiming the village could have still won this. I know I didn't do much to win this, but man, is this entertaining.

Also, what made me so obvious?

You got very defensive torwards the end.
 
The point is, you let your emotions decide for you who to vote and who to argue for. You didn't vote reis because he was the most likely person to be a wolf, you voted him because you hated his behaviour. That is what I call "giving up".
It's a trap, drxav. One I have to try to avoid every game. You can't afford to shut down your mind on all options, you need to evaluate the entire game in context. You didn't do that - you developed tunnel vision instead.

The same thing pretty much applies to Reis, but the difference there is that I -know- you can pull yourself together and start thinking about the big picture. You just didn't do it. Reis .. I rarely see him apply sound logic - or indeed, logic that isn't either a contorted abomination or so full of holes I have difficulty explaining even where to begin with pointing out the flaws - so there is just no way for me to adress it.

I don't pretend to use normal logic. It's overrated anyway, because it depends on the premisses. Wrong premisses, wrong conclusion, even if the logic is flawless. Still, I didn't develop tunnel vision, I pondered other options before reaching that projection. Yes, I should have thought of EL, in hindsight, but I didn't think he would hunt you on the first night. My theory wasn't really unlikely, for that hunt. Something I have both seen, and done myself, which is setting up hunts to frame specific targets.

But to say there is no way to address me... are my posts that scary? :rofl:

@ drxav : Yes, I did vote your reincarnation. I had my reasons for it, and shared them. If you had issues with them, you might explain to me why they are wrong/unlikely and to whom should I move my vote. I can be reasonable :)

The whole "making himself suspicious" thing (he PMed me about it once, so it's a genuine strategy) is killing the game

I used that strategy a couple of times, and you assume I always play by the same book. And I started using that strategy because I got the opportunity to do so, due to people being "unreasonable" with me. It might have been effective a couple of times, but it's not something I'd seek to use every game. The non-voting wasn't intentional, wouldn't want to run the risk of being subbed. And I would have voted enkhuush indeed, though you had no way of knowing it for sure at the time, I concede.
 
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@ drxav : Yes, I did vote your reincarnation. I had my reasons for it, and shared them. If you had issues with them, you might explain to me why they are wrong/unlikely and to whom should I move my vote. I can be reasonable

I really hope, for the sake of future games, that you take some time to think about this.

I want you to use your brain and stop voting people because they vote you, and making up reasons.

I mean seriously, I hope you realize how this : You could have been behind the killing, having the argument already made up to blame the inexperienced/weaklings. Knowing that randakar isn't easy to lynch, and does some analysis independently of knowing the seer or not, he would be a good hunt, if you want to convince the village to act "random". Thus, you just revealed one possible motive, in that slip (Xavian slip? is ridiculous and completely off.

You also realize that within 1 post you went from : I believe I've already guessed half or 2/3 of the wolfpack, but sure, voting me is a really clever thing to do.. to this: Unfortunately, I don't know who else is in the pack, nor am I 100% sure. And if I happen to be right, I'm dead. .

I hope you also realize you've vote switched 4 times within 2 pages, each time to vote someone voting you, and that is plain ridiculous.


I do not hold a grudge or something, I just think you need to review your play style, because you're fricking messing things up and playing against your side, every time.
 
There was only one person in the game that I was pretty sure would hunt me this early - EL.
Why his name was never brought up .. well, really, some people have an obsession.

Even EL hasn't named you in the hunt list I would have been added it in the first day. I had a gut feeling that you're seer. Also I have to say that I haven't ordered any hunt, because there weren't any need to do that.
 
I hope you also realize you've vote switched 4 times within 2 pages, each time to vote someone voting you, and that is plain ridiculous.

So, I should be a gentleman and never vote people who vote me, despite of what I think about their affiliation? Well, I'll be sure to vote you in next games using that "logic", to keep you from voting me.

Playing against my side is a smear accusation. You're not the first to suggest that idea, but I reiterate that it is false. In most games, my actions help the side I am in, regardless of what you or whoever might think about them. Sure, I wasn't particularly sharp in this one, but neither were you, xeno, or any other goodie.

Let's not waste more words on this, and next game I will crush the opposition utterly, and dedicate it to you. With love.
 
Even EL hasn't named you in the hunt list I would have been added it in the first day. I had a gut feeling that you're seer. Also I have to say that I haven't ordered any hunt, because there weren't any need to do that.

I wouldn't have done that :D

The 2nd night was also EL's order, although I suggested going for Boris and trespoe as a backup, he switched them up(dunno if it was intentional), but I left it like that, knowing that he was more experienced. There weren't many people to choose from, anyway, especially since drxav and reis were in self-destruction mode.
 
So, I should be a gentleman and never vote people who vote me, despite of what I think about their affiliation? Well, I'll be sure to vote you in next games using that "logic", to keep you from voting me.

That's very smart. You pre-plan on voting me. That's is very thought out.

Not voting people that vote you because they voted you ins't being a gentlemen, it's just about making sense.

Playing against my side is a smear accusation. You're not the first to suggest that idea, but I reiterate that it is false. In most games, my actions help the side I am in, regardless of what you or whoever might think about them. Sure, I wasn't particularly sharp in this one, but neither were you, xeno, or any other goodie.

Facts state it didn't work well the last 5 or 6 games apparently.
 
Please, people, can't we just be analyzing our mistakes, and not everyone elses, since none of us are faultless.

I know what my mistake was: Not going after EL quickly enough :p