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When was the last time you cleaned it? Build up of combustible material inside a heat generating device is a good recipe for fire. If the fire was outside of the oven, look for frayed wiring or wiring undersized compared to the load generated by your oven. IE 16 gauge wiring trying to carry a 30 amp load.

It appears to have been wiring or some electrical problem with the heating element. I was utterly shocked when this happened. It was an explosion followed by what looked somewhat akin to a welding torch.


I'd appreciate it if you didn't hint that my cleaning standards are remiss, son of liberty. That's just mean!


Daylight "Savings" is over. I'm going to light a candle for that.
 
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Do you really think there's 4 wolves in this game?

Very unlikely. My best guess is three wolfs and no seer. Jacob never said there had to be one... he's sneaky.

I should probably at least try to say something substantive at some point. *sigh*

Seems legit.

Vote Najs

Ese's vote with a snoop/panzer tie a few hours before deadline. A throwaway on one of the four with one vote at the time. Panzer jumps onto it in a bit. Then comes the strange 'lynch everyone involved in PMing' idea next and he happens to pick Falc first with little/no justification for that choice, except falc had traction.

Idk, I'm a little sick and it's making me lazy, but I just really like ese as a wolf. Marty what made yo change your mind from thinking ese was probably less likely a wolf than Kiwi if Falc turned out wolf?
 
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Very unlikely. My best guess is three wolfs and no seer. Jacob never said there had to be one... he's sneaky.

I should probably at least try to say something substantive at some point. *sigh*



Ese's vote with a snoop/panzer tie a few hours before deadline. A throwaway on one of the four with one vote at the time. Panzer jumps onto it in a bit. Then comes the strange 'lynch everyone involved in PMing' idea next and he happens to pick Falc first with little/no justification for that choice, except falc had traction.

Idk, I'm a little sick and it's making me lazy, but I just really like ese as a wolf. Marty what made yo change your mind from thinking ese was probably less likely a wolf than Kiwi if Falc turned out wolf?
I remembered a vital piece of information: you're never a wolf. Not even once.
 
Very unlikely. My best guess is three wolfs and no seer. Jacob never said there had to be one... he's sneaky.

I should probably at least try to say something substantive at some point. *sigh*



Ese's vote with a snoop/panzer tie a few hours before deadline. A throwaway on one of the four with one vote at the time. Panzer jumps onto it in a bit. Then comes the strange 'lynch everyone involved in PMing' idea next and he happens to pick Falc first with little/no justification for that choice, except falc had traction.

Idk, I'm a little sick and it's making me lazy, but I just really like ese as a wolf. Marty what made yo change your mind from thinking ese was probably less likely a wolf than Kiwi if Falc turned out wolf?

Well, wouldn't that normally give me goodie points, seeing how Falc was a wolf? I don't know if it's faked or not, but your post strikes me as a villager who just hasn't been paying attention. I don't think snoop is a wolf anymore. Anyone fancy a switch onto Kiwi?
 
Bittersweet ending

THE_SPLIT said:
marty99 said:
THE_SPLIT said:
marty99 said:
Give me some info here. I was the first to go after both Panzer and Falc, before I knew either of them were scanned. I think I'm cleared enough to at least have a list of all the cleared players.
If that's even too much, tell me if any of Kiwi, esemesas or snoopdogg are cleared. EURO sent me a bunch of pms but the forum software makes them ridiculously difficult to read and they're very long.
And note snoopdogg is not cleared just because EURO told him to vote Panzer. If anything he's less so as he was not keen on lynching him before he got his pm.
Ese is a wolf scanned wolf
Game over then...
I do believe so....
Show's over, folks. Unless THE_SPLIT is bullshitting, but that would be ridiculous at this stage. Esemesas is the last wolf.


The game could have been over days ago, to think we were two seconds away with Najs' missed snipe of winning right there and then! :O



marty99 said:
THE_SPLIT said:
marty99 said:
I want to see all of Falc, esemesas and Aedan dead. And I'd rather not take three lynches minimum to get there. Do you think a tie of some sort is feasible today? I think there's a decent chance of getting two wolves from that. I'm considering bringing in EURO on this, but as it's been pointed out, it could easily have been him who hunted tonka.

Thoughts?
Dude, you like read mind, like that dude.... Seriously these are my 3 suspects as well, my top suspects. Yes Euro could have done this shenanigans and is sending us on a bit of a goose chase, but at the same time I still do believe that the most obvious explanations are almost always correct. A Falc/Aedan tie would be the best outcome for the village. A stupid hunt on the seer right after he has received that PM is something Falc could defiantly do.
I agree. Falc can be a good player when he puts effort in, I believe. But often he doesn't and he can slip up especially as a wolf. And the hunt wasn't necessarily massively stupid. I mean, if he thought tonka was the seer, you have to go for the seer. I think a closer reading would make it seem clear tonka wasn't a likely seer, but Falc could easily have missed that.

Esemesas is also good just because he actually has the worst vote record, probably. And he's defending aedan, by voting Falc. This makes a Falc/esemesas pack slightly less likely, but I think increases the odds of two of being a wolf.

EURO needs to be scanned, ASAP if not done already. If you have any contact with the seer I assume you'll have thought of that already. I might call for it in the thread just to be sure. He's dangerous now because his Panzer snipe makes him hard to lynch.

marty99 said:
EUROO7 said:
marty99 said:
EUROO7 said:
marty99 said:
Where now? I'll show you my plan if you show me yours.

AOK often asked me the same question. I'll give you the answer I always gave him.

Do I really look like a guy with a plan?
You know in the movie the Joker most definitely did have a plan? An excruciatingly, painstakingly thorough, detailed and complex one?

And it succeeded (to a point) because only he knew that plan.

Would you like to see some PM's?
I want to see esemesas dead. I want to see Falc dead. I want to see Aedan777 dead. Today. PMs are optional.


Although I'll say that there must out of necessity have been hundreds of people who knew at least parts of the Joker's plan. Not that it's realistic anyway, but someone could have slipped up transporting all those barrels of explosives.

marty99 said:
Najs said:
marty99 said:
Would you be up for a Falc/Aedan/Esemesas tie? You can make it by switching to esemesas. If you think I'm a wolf pulling shenanigans, you can pm THE_SPLIT about this, or send a carbon copy of this at the deadline. I just think them three dying is the best choice we can make. We might even get both wolves.

Hmm. I can see how it would be beneficial. I can also see how there's no way in hell we can get a threeway going if two of them are indeed wolves, at least not without some close sniping. If I switch now they'll just be prepared for it.
A snipe would be best, but a switch now is better than none IMHO if you won't be around. I've tried getting EURO in but he's strangely hesistant. Not enough evidence to trust snoopdogg or johho.
This is the second game where I or an associate has missed a snipe to kill all remaining wolves, all unscanned, in one go, by a matter of seconds. At least this time I've survived, but EURO and johho were not so fortunate. I'll keep Najs and my failure in mind and learn from it. I'm sorry guys.
 
Bob and I will personally guarantee you that I have a contact within the next few days ago by the way to get a chance to win the game is to be a good idea for the first to know that you have a lot to celebrate.
 
Bob and I will personally guarantee you that I have a contact within the next few days ago by the way to get a chance to win the game is to be a good idea for the first to know that you have a lot to celebrate.
You could just trust me instead. I don't always have time to write out large reasoning posts, besides I'm not saying I was sure about it, it was just the best way of playing the odds.
 
I still can't believe you fell for the wolves' ploy of running me up. Looking at these PM's I see a complete lack of any greater reason for lynching me. When the only 'evidence' you have for a person being a wolf requires everyone involved to be a total retard, you may want to rethink your suspicions. I said this at the time, but nooo clearly Panzer implicated a packmate in the dumbest and least useful way possible.
 
I still can't believe you fell for the wolves' ploy of running me up. Looking at these PM's I see a complete lack of any greater reason for lynching me. When the only 'evidence' you have for a person being a wolf requires everyone involved to be a total retard, you may want to rethink your suspicions. I said this at the time, but nooo clearly Panzer implicated a packmate in the dumbest and least useful way possible.
This wasn't really addressed to me, but how did he implicate you? I missed that part.
 
I still can't believe you fell for the wolves' ploy of running me up. Looking at these PM's I see a complete lack of any greater reason for lynching me. When the only 'evidence' you have for a person being a wolf requires everyone involved to be a total retard, you may want to rethink your suspicions. I said this at the time, but nooo clearly Panzer implicated a packmate in the dumbest and least useful way possible.

What can you expect from a noob?

Your time will come, aedan. Don't fret.
 
So there actually is a seer, I could've sworn we didn't have one with the way it's all gone down so far.
We never really needed one, to be honest, there was always evidence all the wolves and without a seer the village would have won anyway. So they had no reason to do anything grand, I guess. Just a push in the right direction occasionally.
Could be anyone, really. Kiwi's been laying low, THE_SPLIT has been less aggressive than usual. Could even be Najs although if it is he acted very well.
 
Panzer snipe-broke the Aedan tie. Admittedly, Aedan was a fine choice anyways..
I thought that was it, but that's not valid.

Aedan was going to die anyway! Panzer had N.O.T.H.I.N.G. to lose from breaking the tie if aedan was a packmate, you were going to die anyway. How many times do I have to say it aedan??? Therefore, it makes more sense to spread the wolf lynches out over two days than one, even if aedan is still guaranteed to die (and he wasn't), the wolves have an extra hunt and thus a step closer towards parity.
You know this, aedan. If you can understand that you're not trying hard enough. I know you're annoyed be lynched, but the people who voted you had valid reason to do so.

For your argument to be true it needs to be so that literally saving someone from death counts as 'implicating them in the least useful and dumbest way possible'.
 
What can you expect from a noob?

Your time will come, aedan. Don't fret.
You pick your brains up off the floor and put them back in your head have you lost your mind!

I mean ghost color ya heathen.