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sorry, i haven't really had time to dedicate to this over the last 2 days. quite honestly, i'd forgotten the sign up.

i was thinking that the outing was false, but went with it anyway, since false outings don't happen on day 2, generally.

i still think that @brovahkiin 's attempt on day 1 was wolfie.

VOTE @brovahkiin

i'll try to get on before deadline and do some more analysis.
 
Harken oh children of isreal, for you have been deceived
you think "yea the commander of panzers is one we can trust for it is he who revealed the true nature of wagonlitz"
you are wrong, for you see brave hax, the chariot of iron, was the one who told panzer the truth, claiming to be the high priest to be forming a council of the righteous, and behold how after the death of wagon, the traitors did murder hax thinking that he was the high priest they hated so. But they have failed, they sold their fellow traitor down the river thinking they would trade him for hte live of the high priest but instead all they found was a matyr. Do no not let hax's sacrifice be in vain, let the scales fall from your eyes and see panzer's true nature
Hax said:
Hunting Emperor Ike the zombie feels something Wagonlitz, Rovsea or alynkio would have done.
Also I was contacted by Panzer Commader yesterday:
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The Seer said:
Wagon is a wolf.
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Hax said:
Should I ask Panzer to do the outing? I can tell him that I'm the seer.
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Hax said:
I have a slight feeling that Panzer and Wagon are packmates. Wagon's early vote on Panzer feels off.
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Hax said:
70% sure that Panzer and Wagon are mates.
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Hax said:
Good luck.
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behold my proof records on the conversations
Vote Panzer
 
Well yes it is true. Yesterday was an extremely surprising update for me which is why I haven't posted yet today, as I've wanted to take time to process the situation. Firstly, I fully expected to be hunted. Not only was I not hunted, but Hax who was turned out to not be the seer he had claimed to me that he was, yet he was still correct that Wagon was a wolf. My guess is that the seer scanned Wagon, the wolf, and Hax, the villager, and asked Hax to contact an unscanned villager to perform the outing. I don't see how that makes me a wolf though. Yes, the wolves didn't hunt me, because they didn't want to hunt the spokesman when they could go for the seer instead, would be my guess. In a similar way, I can assure you that if I were a wolf I would have known Hax was lying about having scanned me, and so was likely lying about being seer, and I would have hunted almost anyone else over him.

In the above post it says Hax thought I was a wolf but it doesn't even say why. Because of a wagon vote on day 1 that went nowhere? That doesn't make a lot of sense to me...
 
Panzer Commader said:
Well, there are no non-voters left now :( Still, Yakman was last. Maybe we should get on him?

Hax said:
Sorry completely forgot about the game. Though, I do have some good news for you. I'm the seer and I scanned you last night, so welcome to the JL.

Guess who turned out to be a waffle on night 0. If you guess correctly you will get a cookie. ;)

Panzer Commader said:
Wait, really? Awesome :D it's been ages since I've been in a lite JL. Always found it one of the most fun ways to play

As for the guess, well, I would say



One of these two?

If it's Alynkio, we should be able to lynch him without an outing, considering his breaking of the tie to kill a villager yesterday

Hax said:
It's Wagonlitz, so you get half of a cookie. :p


Could you do the outing if needed?

Panzer Commader said:
Heya really sorry, had a very long day at uni today. Just got back home.

Sure thing! But shouldn't we maybe try to get him lynched normally first? We could try to say how yesterday he made a throwaway vote and then was content to sit back. I could even pm some people to ask if they maybe want to vote with us. Still gives more info than (and improves my life expectancy compared to :p) an outing

But still if that does not look like it will work then I will perform the outing for sure

Hax said:
Sure but if you see some 15-20 minutes before deadline that he is not in a clear lead then out him.
Panzer Commader said:

Alright, can do that!

here's panzer and hax's conversations
 
An interesting development.

If Panzer is indeed evil, he wouldn't have had much of a choice about performing the outing. Had he not, he would have revealed himself as evil.

Panzer being unscanned isn't necessarily the same thing as Panzer being evil, of course. But I was suspicious enough of Panzer to vote him yesterday, and there are several circumstantial details that I find interesting... notably the failure of the wolves to hunt Panzer, and instead go after Hax. Aedan's theory (Hax was an early outing-follower who had also been pressuring Wagonlitz) does also make sense, but Panzer actually being evil would add a new dimension to this in light of Brovahkiin's convos.

Further, Wolf Wagon is a sucker for alibi votes. If Panzer had let on that Wagon would be outed, Wagon would have been even more likely than ordinary to try to create distance in the thread between the 2 of them.

Really don't know much about Alxeu, Yakman, Claude, and especially Dedonus, and I'm generally not one to tunnel, but I'm intrigued enough to consider repeating my vote against Panzer.


VOTE PANZER
 
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brovahkiin said:
Harken oh children of isreal, for you have been deceived
you think "yea the commander of panzers is one we can trust for it is he who revealed the true nature of wagonlitz"
you are wrong, for you see brave hax, the chariot of iron, was the one who told panzer the truth, claiming to be the high priest to be forming a council of the righteous, and behold how after the death of wagon, the traitors did murder hax thinking that he was the high priest they hated so. But they have failed, they sold their fellow traitor down the river thinking they would trade him for hte live of the high priest but instead all they found was a matyr. Do no not let hax's sacrifice be in vain, let the scales fall from your eyes and see panzer's true nature







behold my proof records on the conversations
Vote Panzer
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i don't think that makes sense.

let's assume that hax was scanned by an unknown seer.

let's assume that seer & hax USED THEIR BRAINS and thought... oh... maybe this panzer fella is clean. let's have him do the outing.

then it goes according to plan.

i dunno. maybe panzer is the seer who told hax and then hax acted like the seer to pull attention away from panzer, but ergh... that's a risky strategy on day 2.

or maybe panzer is a wolf who was falsely trusted, and then did the outing in order to murder the supposed seer later?

i still am going to vote for you.
 
Brovah appears to be good, but I'm not entirely convinced that Panzer is evil, moreso than in the wrong place at the wrong time, in a sense.

Ugh, I've not paid enough attention to say who's good or bad, and unfortunately, we lost two rather active people yesterday, which seems to have only killed the thread further.

Vote Dedonus

Obviously shouldn't vote brovahkiin, not entirely convinced regarding Panzer, Yakman defies attempts to analyze him, Claude has put in effort this game, alynkio is the most active player left, and I don't think aedan's evil. Granted, I'm not entirely attached to voting Dedonus, either, but I've geniunely no clue at this point.
 
Hmm, interesting revelation regarding Panzer, but I'm not convinced he is evil. Yeah Hax getting hunted after contacting Panzer claiming to be the seer is suspicious, but Hax also looked like the most likely JL member from the thread. I could see either case being the truth. Panzer hunting Hax also doesn't fully jive to me, since he'd have known Hax was lying about scanning him, ergo Hax had another scan, if he even was the seer, and so hunting Hax would put a target on Panzer's back.

That said, Wagon taking such a strong stance against Panzer does make more sense if he knew he was scanned and so tried to protect Panzer by putting distance between them. Wagon also voted Panzer previously on day 1, a possible alibi vote.

Not really seeing any major leads on others too. Claude and alynkio I'm still tentatively inclined to read as goodies. Everyone else besides Yakman doesn't indicate much to me either. Yakman just continues to be problematic however, with his current nonsensical reading of events leading him to vote Brovahkiin, who is probably a scanned and cleared villager. I don't know if this is just him being stupid, or a cover for him to undermine the village.
 
aedan777 said:
Hmm, interesting revelation regarding Panzer, but I'm not convinced he is evil. Yeah Hax getting hunted after contacting Panzer claiming to be the seer is suspicious, but Hax also looked like the most likely JL member from the thread. I could see either case being the truth. Panzer hunting Hax also doesn't fully jive to me, since he'd have known Hax was lying about scanning him, ergo Hax had another scan, if he even was the seer, and so hunting Hax would put a target on Panzer's back.

That said, Wagon taking such a strong stance against Panzer does make more sense if he knew he was scanned and so tried to protect Panzer by putting distance between them. Wagon also voted Panzer previously on day 1, a possible alibi vote.

Not really seeing any major leads on others too. Claude and alynkio I'm still tentatively inclined to read as goodies. Everyone else besides Yakman doesn't indicate much to me either. Yakman just continues to be problematic however, with his current nonsensical reading of events leading him to vote Brovahkiin, who is probably a scanned and cleared villager. I don't know if this is just him being stupid, or a cover for him to undermine the village.
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it's DAY 3. we got a scanned wolf. we have an outer. HOW IS @brovahkiin a probably scanned and clear villager???

dude that's way wolfy. way wolfy.
 
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THE VOICE OF THE LORD MAKES THE BARREN WASTELAND SHAKE
HARKEN TO HIS WORDS OH CHILDREN OF ISRAEL

ALYINKO IS AN ASSYRIAN TRAITOR
UNVOTE PANZER
VOTE ALYINKO
 
Vote Alynkio
 
Unvote Brovahkiin
Vote Alynkio
 
Deadline.

Official Day 3 Votecount

alynkio: 4
brovahkiin (142 Panzer -> 151)
aedan777 (152)
Panzer Commader (153)
Claude LC (155)

Panzer: 1
alynkio (145)

Yakman: 1
Dedonus (139)

brovahkiin: 1
Yakman (141)

Dedonus: 1
alxeu (148)

alxeu tried to vote Panzer in 154, but failed because he was voting Dedonus, not brovahkiin
 
Day 3/Night 3
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    • And on the third day, the elders did gather together once more, and once again being hungover, they spoke little and voted less. But it came to pass that they chose to kill the one who had recently begun courting a foreign woman, and lo, he was indeed sympathetic to the Assyrians, as those who court foreign women often are. Again, there was much rejoicing.

    But in the morning, shock and sorrow rose through all the camps of the people of Israel, for their high priest had been struck down by the evildoers. At once, the people of Israel lost all hope for deliverance, and began having orgies, and worshipping idols, and worst of all, drinking non-vegan sake. But you, the remaining elders, knew that only one more man lay between you and the Promised Land, so you soldiered on just a little farther.

    alynkio, a wolf, was lynched
    alxeu, the seer, was hunted
     
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