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I thought snow white and nautilu were the J-L? What the were they doing on the day they lynched me?:confused: If nautilu wasn't J-L that would mean he was playing against his own team?:confused:

This was seriously epic fail on the J-L's part. If you know any wolves for sure, you make sure they get lynched that day. Delaying that so that jonti's not at risk? wtf?:confused:
 
I thought snow white and nautilu were the J-L? What the were they doing on the day they lynched me?:confused: If nautilu wasn't J-L that would mean he was playing against his own team?:confused:
Nautilu was never scanned.

This was seriously epic fail on the J-L's part. If you know any wolves for sure, you make sure they get lynched that day. Delaying that so that jonti's not at risk? wtf?:confused:

They wanted to wait until there were two villagers in the JL to out the wolves, that way the JL wouldn't lose the speaker.
 
Either hdk or White Daimon with his new styled game.
If the_hdk is ready to host, then he should. He deserves it for this win. Otherwise, Iĺl start the game tomorrow a few hours before deadline time.

Congratulations on lynching the seer vLN. Respect for that. But Iĺl still like to see you do to what Jinnai did and get the JL spokesperson lynched. I was there, but I still don't understand what happened :rofl:
 
No, it was the fact that you're arguement about support made no sense, and would have only made sense if you were a wolf.
I beg to differ. That argument still makes sense. If we had 4 wolves out of 10 players and one of us was going to be lynched today, I would have had that packmate make a fake JL announcement. And the most convenient thing to say would be that he's the Seer and he has no one to vouch for him. This way we either win today, or we have 3 out of 8 tomorrow.
 
Nautilu was never scanned.

Which is why it's impossible for their to be any reasonable explanation for his actions. If he was a wolf, he was trying to kill two villagers with a snipe and end the game, (if that would be the end), if he was J-L he and snow white were rescuing at the very least a confirmed villager, probably the seer. But an unscanned villager?:confused: There's just no rational explanation.

They wanted to wait until there were two villagers in the JL to out the wolves, that way the JL wouldn't lose the speaker.

Epic. Fail.

Nice game vLN.
 
Congratz to the winners. A bold move, but it worked.

Well played by Snow White for his first game :)
 
Nice played vLn. :p I think my biggest mistake was waiting for a second JL member while I was scanning for wolves. Becausse scanning wolves doesn't give you a second jl member. it was pretty funny because I thought hdk marty punk and kaiser were the wolves. but because kaiser and hdk were voting for marty, I couldn't believe that 2 wolves would vote for a packmate,therefor I thought marty was innocent. so looking for another suspicius person I thought of snoop who was also believed to be suspicious by jonti. seeing that I could snipe him I thought why not. When snoop turned out to be innocent I went looking for a new wolf and came up with vLN. But I still thought that kaiser was a wolf aswell. but because it was the last day I had to be sure that people would vote for a wolf therefor I knew I had to give myself away as a seer too save the village. I sent some pm's to capi, racz, jester and marty(of whom I now thought innocent). saying that I was the seer ad who were the wolves and that I was almost certain of kaiser. I never metioned vLn because I wasn't that sure of him. maybe I should have. after pm'ing I posted I was the seer the fact that Kaiser was the only one who openly believed me confused me. After a while I thought it must be the best cover for him to vote in my favor if the plan didn't work or so that he could snipe.

I really hate that I sniped snoop cause otherwise we would have had a wolf that night and for misread my vote analyse of kaiser.

but what I really would like to know is what I did wrong and what I should improve? :p (pls don't mention the crovax)
 
What you should have done is make jonti out the scanned wolves. The only reason he didn't do it was because he was being selfish and didn't want to reveal himself as a member of the JL. In the overwhelming majority of games which I have played in, the JL spokesman always comes forth when the Seer finds a wolf. You can't let your spokesman get away with being a coward. As it turns out, jonti was hunted because we noticed he was laying low, unlike his usual self, and thought he was either the Seer or a JL member. Turns out it was pointless to hide :)
 
but what I really would like to know is what I did wrong and what I should improve? :p (pls don't mention the crovax)
You did quite well. Heres a few pointers

- When you know of both a villager and a wolf. Then that wolf needs to die. Ideally by pushing the village to lynch the wolf without announching that youŕe JL and without letting the wolfs identify the seer. Worst case by getting the villager to announce (as late as possible) youŕe JL and bandwagon the wolf. Either way, wolfs need to die the day you know who they are and have a save way of getting them killed. And sometimes also when you don't have a save way of getting them killed. Either way, letting baddies live is bound to end in disaster.
- You should have tried to get vLN to announce who he though were baddies. Such a move would be bound to get more support for your side / make his story less likely by his refusal to do such a thing.
- You could have asked Racz / capi to form a tie. Such a move might have won the day for the goodies at the cost of your life.

EDIT: vLN put it very well :)
 
You did quite well. Heres a few pointers

- You should have tried to get vLN to announce who he though were baddies. Such a move would be bound to get more support for your side / make his story less likely by his refusal to do such a thing.
- You could have asked Racz / capi to form a tie. Such a move might have won the day for the goodies at the cost of your life.

EDIT: vLN put it very well :)

I thought of asking him that but I forgot when typing a post later on :p

I did ask for a tie twice in the forum

ty for the feedback, and I will definitly remember to kill the known wolves immidiatly next time :p
 
I'd like to add a small thing. :)

we discussed it with VLN the day before the last. That if you'd announce it before 12:00 am GMT we would counter. But we didn't announce it ourself before that time. Because announcing too early seems a but too eager and insecure and well wolfish :)

You did pretty well especially for a new player. Way better than me. Have you played before on other forums?

I guess I didn't do much to win this game. The only thing I did well and that helped our side was my risky vote on marty. :p

VLN we do pretty well as wolfs together. 2 out of 2 wins IIRC? :cool:

Last but not least big thanks to the GM for hosting. Again you did very well :)
 
You did pretty well especially for a new player. Way better than me. Have you played before on other forums?

I guess I didn't do much to win this game. The only thing I did well and that helped our side was my risky vote on marty. :p

Last but not least big thanks to the GM for hosting. Again you did very well :)


no first game ever.

don't be modest :)

indeed big thx to the GM for GM'ing this game.