IN, if it starts Monday or later.
Oh yeah, regarding deadlines: will be even more fun considering DST changes are coming up again
Oh yeah, regarding deadlines: will be even more fun considering DST changes are coming up again
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Oh, I feel welcome already
damn bandwagons! They ruined Scotland!
Now our GM is not The Phoenix.. But I still have my doubts about "goodies"(that would be the plural of goody, in this case anyway)
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As a side note, I managed to get myself injured this weekend, which *may* have involved a broken toe.. I don't think it did, but if I should suddenly disappear (from the forums that is; if I die here there's far too many suspects) it's likely that I had to reconsider my "not broken" and got hospitalised.
That is, IF. Good thing Jacob-Lundgren isn't around here, or above information would probably have gotten me strung up immediately.
damn bandwagons! They ruined Scotland!
Now our GM is not The Phoenix.. But I still have my doubts about "goodies"(that would be the plural of goody, in this case anyway)
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As a side note, I managed to get myself injured this weekend, which *may* have involved a broken toe.. I don't think it did, but if I should suddenly disappear (from the forums that is; if I die here there's far too many suspects) it's likely that I had to reconsider my "not broken" and got hospitalised.
That is, IF. Good thing Jacob-Lundgren isn't around here, or above information would probably have gotten me strung up immediately.
Eh, guys, how about we make this game a little more fun and get EVERYONE an extra goody...
Simplest method, everyone vote for himself.. TIE of all TIES!
Vote ForzaA
Simplest method, everyone vote for himself.. TIE of all TIES!
Vote ForzaA
Anything BUT "first day vote".. Giving no excuse is bad enough, but this excuse...
Since it's an excuse that can be used for voting for anyone (sure, excuses can be made up to fit any specific person, I know).. I always have my doubts as to it's randomness.
vote Jester180
Oh, I'm very interested
a/s/l ?
...Then again, "walrus" doesn't sound particularly attractive in any case...
Just to clarify, I voted Jester *for* voting randomly, I did not vote for him randomly. Not a strong case admittedly, but then, barring any Crovaxian slips, having a strong case now would be rather surprising...
Seeing that we've got a recent GM approved count.. We have a tie. (now, it would be a TIE if jerard and EUROO7 would get an extra vote each
)Lets hope it gives us some solid leads
So, I'm left with few realistic options.
Noone's made anywhere near a crovaxian slip (one can always hope that someone does), and the ones whom I believe have acted in any way suspicious are nowhere near getting hanged (and, to be honest, what I've got on them would hardly be worthy of a bandwagon at this time), which I consider good reason not to share too much at this time, since it may make them reconsider their behaviour.
In other words, I'm going to have to vote more on considerations of having the voting patterns reveal something (if we're lucky) by keeping the vote somewhat close.
enkhuush, joeb, marty.
Voting for enkhuush gives too much of a margin at this time, IMO.
Voting for joeb.. gives us another tie.. Now one early tie can be valuable, two might be a little overdoing it.
therefore I'd vote marty99
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"preview post" addendum - just seen EUROO7's post, which puts marty in the same position as joeb..
Not a particularly good alternative remains in Lemeard then, since it'll still leave him two votes behind the leader in the vote. Nonetheless, lacking anything more solid, one can hope to provoke a reaction at least. (or maybe Lemeard will show true dedication to the TIE)
Vote Lemeard
Noone's made anywhere near a crovaxian slip (one can always hope that someone does), and the ones whom I believe have acted in any way suspicious are nowhere near getting hanged (and, to be honest, what I've got on them would hardly be worthy of a bandwagon at this time), which I consider good reason not to share too much at this time, since it may make them reconsider their behaviour.
In other words, I'm going to have to vote more on considerations of having the voting patterns reveal something (if we're lucky) by keeping the vote somewhat close.
enkhuush, joeb, marty.
Voting for enkhuush gives too much of a margin at this time, IMO.
Voting for joeb.. gives us another tie.. Now one early tie can be valuable, two might be a little overdoing it.
therefore I'd vote marty99
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"preview post" addendum - just seen EUROO7's post, which puts marty in the same position as joeb..
Not a particularly good alternative remains in Lemeard then, since it'll still leave him two votes behind the leader in the vote. Nonetheless, lacking anything more solid, one can hope to provoke a reaction at least. (or maybe Lemeard will show true dedication to the TIE)
Vote Lemeard
aargh! get that memory away from me!
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the rules said:
First of all, it's a *trait*, rather than a role.
Second, it's not necessarily true.
From that, I'd be inclined to say that
1) it is *likely* Ironhead 5 and the spy have more information that supports this "allegiance" claim, that they reveal it now.
AND/OR
2) The spy himself isn't quite innocent, and is either sacrificing himself to take out a vital goody or is hoping to establish his "innocence". I'd expect Ironhead 5 to keep a good eye on the second option here.
let's see...
throwaway vote on a random person
follow a possible lead (but where DOES it lead?)
Or not vote for the moment, and likely not at all (RL, Friday.. you do the math)
throwaway vote on a random person
follow a possible lead (but where DOES it lead?)
Or not vote for the moment, and likely not at all (RL, Friday.. you do the math)
Well, Ironhead 5, at least, seems convinced enough of his source.
Ofcourse, if he's wrong, he'll have some serious explaining to do...
Don't particularly like the bandwagon that seems to be forming, though...
vote jonti-h
Ofcourse, if he's wrong, he'll have some serious explaining to do...
Don't particularly like the bandwagon that seems to be forming, though...
vote jonti-h
Personally, I find "yeah I was disguising myself as a wolf" rather suspicious (considering that, in general, even the evil side will vote for an outed wolf), but since we don't have the name of XXXX, I can't vote for him.
Scratch that, rereading Ironhead's messages... we DO have the name of XXXX.
Vote EUROO7
Scratch that, rereading Ironhead's messages... we DO have the name of XXXX.
Vote EUROO7
Well, I considered that option, but, given that only cultists appear to be able to actually detect wolves, I considered it a rather poor gamble, considering the other side of the medal (that, if we assume for a second that you are a MoD, we are seeing here) is that a goody scanner finds you means immediate(provided a mouthpiece exists) death, I considered it a rather unlikely disguise to choose.
That's the THIRD "spiritually attuned, master of disguise, spying villager", and if I5/EUROO7 are to be believed, there's at least one more MoD, and multiple more spies.
I don't know about you, but I'm getting the impression that OrangeYoshi DID take far too many lessons with The Phoenix. (especially this one)
And while my gut feeling says that following I5's lead in this is the best option we have at the moment, there's two things that I'd love to see cleared up.
First, why blank out/'protect' ONLY EUROO7 in your quotation of PM's? The_Split may have *misinterpreted* the spying information he got, but he was still an innocent, why was he undeserving of anonymisation, where EUROO7 was?
Second, if you have so many spying buddies, why only post an *example*; by now it should be quite clear that spy reports may be misinterpreted, may be wrong, etc. Why not let us judge for ourselves, rather than having to rely on your judgement?
Even so,
Vote Lemeard
I don't know about you, but I'm getting the impression that OrangeYoshi DID take far too many lessons with The Phoenix. (especially this one)
And while my gut feeling says that following I5's lead in this is the best option we have at the moment, there's two things that I'd love to see cleared up.
First, why blank out/'protect' ONLY EUROO7 in your quotation of PM's? The_Split may have *misinterpreted* the spying information he got, but he was still an innocent, why was he undeserving of anonymisation, where EUROO7 was?
Second, if you have so many spying buddies, why only post an *example*; by now it should be quite clear that spy reports may be misinterpreted, may be wrong, etc. Why not let us judge for ourselves, rather than having to rely on your judgement?
Even so,
Vote Lemeard
Hmm, analysis time, unless a new mouthpiece steps forward.
We have a bunch of inactives; We've had 6 votes, we all had to sign up;
the_hdk : 7 posts in the thread..
J_passepartout : 8 posts.
Hax, 9 posts.
That's all players with less than 10 posts.. Mere inactiveness, or hoping to fly under the radar?
snoopdogg - Twice in a row was the first one to vote on the target pointed out by I5. Coincidence, or a more sinister "lets follow the mouthpiece and pretend I'm innocent" ?
EUROO7 - We know that I5 was innocent, we know that The_Split was innocent.. And yet they evidently disagreed on whether EUROO7 was. The whole MoD angle doesn't match the "most scans returned him as good", and EUROO7 seemed more than happy to let I5 do the defending.
I think that both EUROO7 and snoopdogg are more suspicious than the inactives, and therefore more worthy of my vote. On the other hand, this is all conjecture, so I'd be happy to hear arguments. Of the two, EUROO7 I'd say is contributing the most to the village for the moment (though, whether it's for good or ill..)
Vote snoopdogg
We have a bunch of inactives; We've had 6 votes, we all had to sign up;
the_hdk : 7 posts in the thread..
J_passepartout : 8 posts.
Hax, 9 posts.
That's all players with less than 10 posts.. Mere inactiveness, or hoping to fly under the radar?
snoopdogg - Twice in a row was the first one to vote on the target pointed out by I5. Coincidence, or a more sinister "lets follow the mouthpiece and pretend I'm innocent" ?
EUROO7 - We know that I5 was innocent, we know that The_Split was innocent.. And yet they evidently disagreed on whether EUROO7 was. The whole MoD angle doesn't match the "most scans returned him as good", and EUROO7 seemed more than happy to let I5 do the defending.
I think that both EUROO7 and snoopdogg are more suspicious than the inactives, and therefore more worthy of my vote. On the other hand, this is all conjecture, so I'd be happy to hear arguments. Of the two, EUROO7 I'd say is contributing the most to the village for the moment (though, whether it's for good or ill..)
Vote snoopdogg
hey i'm never active in big games
i'll follow the leaders...
vote snoop
I'm seriously reconsidering my choice to go for snoopdogg in favour of going for a quiet one here....
Glad to see at least people are making an effort at independent analysis.
To those that still just vote, even if it's for someone suggested to be suspicious, just because your bits and pieces of analysis and intuition may not be much, it's still better than nothing.
To those that still just vote, even if it's for someone suggested to be suspicious, just because your bits and pieces of analysis and intuition may not be much, it's still better than nothing.
If "I'm so active" should be read as "I managed to jump on Ironhead 5's suggestions immediately" is the proper reading, then yes, that is my reason.
And I most certainly do not like how yesterday's vote evolved.
It's almost as if it was an orchestrated bandwagon on Hax. Or just people being too lazy to do any of their own thinking.
So I'm considering adding some people to the list I had...
the_hdk - unchanged, still pretty inactive, rather boring "excuse" as to why he's not active.
J.Passepartout - got a post in as well, offered very little contribution
snoopdogg - Still the early jumper on Ironhead 5's suggestions; not particularly convincing on the arguments why he's not to be hanged.
EUROO7 - offered no clearing up on the whole MoD or not confusion involving at least himself, The_Split and Ironhead 5.
And from the hax vote.. hard to say who started the bandwagoning, tempted to say walrus feels the most "off" to me.
Since I have nothing strong on anyone, I'd definitely prefer losing to EUROO7 (hey, at least he's visible) or snoopdogg (brave or foolish, I dunno, but the baddie tell flaunting provides some comedic relief at least) rather than one of the less noticeable ones.
therefore,
vote the_hdk
Also, GM, why was humancalculator listed twice in the vote? just an accident I assume?
Well, I guess I was right in that walrus was trying to hide, though not for the reasons I thought. oops.
voting pattern was a little suspicious; Slinky breaking the tie and offering no explanation whatsoever... somewhat suspicious.
Still, I stick to yesterday's suspicion;
vote the_hdk
how the hell am I not active?
Doing the same thing and expecting different result? he?
You know what they call that?
I called you out on being rather inactive, and all you did was a tiny bit of extra 'fluff' in your votes ("I don't want to die")
I guess opinions differ on the subject..
And considering we only hung baddies when they were 'ordered' by I5, just "being active in the vote" hardly clears one of suspicion.
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But really, why are *you* defending the_hdk?
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Now here's an interesting thought, combining your reasoning regarding "vote inactiveness" with what could be a baddie tell:
What IS he responding to? The hanging of our doctor, or no death during the night?