What affect collaboration loss?

[The Pastmaster]

I have a Dome with two Research Labs in it and there's a little thing called Collaboration Loss.

What does this DO, or rather how does it WORK?

Because in one I sometimes have a loss of 40 research and sometimes I don't have any loss at all for seemingly no, to random reasons.

Any ideas?

 

[sterrius]

I have a Dome with two Research Labs in it and there's a little thing called Collaboration Loss.

What does this DO, or rather how does it WORK?

Because in one I sometimes have a loss of 40 research and sometimes I don't have any loss at all for seemingly no, to random reasons.

Any ideas?

research collaboration is a penalty for having 2+ labs on the same dome.
Also apply to rc explorers.

I think its around 20-30% penalty (i don´t tested this yet, you need to check yourself the real %). So for every 100 research your two labs make you will lose 30 on each.

So instead of giving you 200 research/day they will just give you 140-160/day.

its e mechanic to avoid people from having a dome with nothing but laboratorys or having only RC explorers to do the research.

 

[King of Zoot]

It seemed like it was effected by research cost also. Cheaper projects caused more collab loss.

 

[The Pastmaster]

research collaboration is a penalty for having 2+ labs on the same dome.
Also apply to rc explorers.

I think its around 20-30% penalty (i don´t tested this yet, you need to check yourself the real %). So for every 100 research your two labs make you will lose 30 on each.

So instead of giving you 200 research/day they will just give you 140-160/day.

its e mechanic to avoid people from having a dome with nothing but laboratorys or having only RC explorers to do the research.

I get why it happens and how to avoid it but I want to know what affects it. What determines the amount lost?

I was researching the Omega Telescope and I noticed that in my "science dome" that one research lab had 0 co-lab loss, the second had 40, and the next one had 5. Then when I checked 15-20 minutes later it was 34, 50, and 20-something.
6 scientists in each lab on active shifts. Logical thinking would assume that the co-lab loss would be equal among them all, not randomly fluctuate from building to building over time.

 

[ArSharlahy]

It affects all laboratories in all domes regardless of count of labs in same dome, and maximum amount of debuff seems to be 50%

 

[The Pastmaster]

It affects all laboratories in all domes regardless of count of labs in same dome, and maximum amount of debuff seems to be 50%

I know. I asking about the completely arbitrary losses and what causes them. The losses specifically, not the game mechanic itself.

 

[MagicMagor]

The basic idea is probably this:
One person working on a task can spend 100% of his time on the actual task.
Two persons working on the same task can't spend 200% of the time on the actual task. They have to use some of their time to communicate and ensure their collaboration works. This sometimes also refered to as "management overhead".
The bigger the team, the more worktime is lost to this management overhead.

In the game is modelled as the collaboration loss for research.

 

[Herbert West]

The basic idea is probably this:
One person working on a task can spend 100% of his time on the actual task.
Two persons working on the same task can't spend 200% of the time on the actual task. They have to use some of their time to communicate and ensure their collaboration works. This sometimes also refered to as "management overhead".
The bigger the team, the more worktime is lost to this management overhead.

In the game is modelled as the collaboration loss for research.

Yeah, only actual research, here on Earth, and in reality, does not work like that at all.

 

[ArSharlahy]

but it looks a little to harsh

 

[aono]

Yeah, only actual research, here on Earth, and in reality, does not work like that at all.

Well, actual R&D works like that, when you have big collectives working on same task.
But actual, Earth-based R&D quite often preferring parallel work on different tasks.

 

[ArSharlahy]

parallel research would be great

 

[The Pastmaster]

I give up. \o/

 

[Lyrandon]

I give up. \o/

I don't think anyone really understands this game mechanic, i too had wild changes between having 3 fully staffed labs with 0 collaboration loss and 50% loss two Sol later.

EDIT:
I don't like the concept of collaboration loss, so i made a mod to disable it:
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1336144795