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Romanovs lack any kind of support to be reinstated... or even have their claims to be entertained in any real way, both in 90s and now. Yes, even Church is rather cold to them, not to mention actual Russian bureaucracy and security services. And there is no unity among Romanovs either to at least combine efforts. I mean, perhaps someone even claimed it, but it is just that marginal that no one cared.

Public opinion is also awful for them: over half are heavily against it, with less than 20% entertaining the idea of it. And even among the supporters... majority would rather see Putin as Tsar, which tells a lot. Public opinion about Nikolai II is also still very negative.

The monarchists in nearly all ex-USSR countries are marginals and they aren't even considered seriously, they rarely get much publicity - Romanovs only get it from Russian love to pre-revolutionary Russia, which over time actually softened negative perception of them.

Actually, there was an incident here (in Ukraine; I think in Russia and other places too) when in 2011-2013 some people bought a lot of ads around country and put up something about Romanovs - "Please forgive us, Holy Tsar" and such. It was before 400 years anniversary of Romanov's house. Kinda like this:

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My memory may fail me, but it was also a thing in Russia and it was related to the Maria Romanova doing some publicity and trying to probe public opinion. It mostly ended up rather badly.

In general, Romanov's monarchy has little to no chances of revival.

But the deciding factor is the Church. It doesn't back idea of monarchy, even if some are rather receptible to it or like it.

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There is an example in a country near Russia that actually has a rather stable monarchist movement and one that is actually working. That's... Georgia.

They are far from achieving their goals, at least not yet. But they have advantages which Romanovs don't:
  • Bagrationi dynasty is actually much more prestigious comparatively than Romanovs, it is very old and matters heavily for Georgians, taking roots as long as in Hellenistic period.
  • Lack of a bad baggage like Nikolai II has left to Romanovs.
  • Stronger disdain for communism, which weakens this faction that would compete for conservative-minded population.
  • Georgian Church heavily supports it.
  • To add to that, the Georgian head of Church is actually invested into it personally.
  • There is a positive public perception of the Bagrationi dynasty as a whole and many wouldn't mind this idea.
  • Major political crisises in Georgia tend to happen every now and then, giving a lot of openings for this idea.
The only issue is the feud between two branches. They tried to solve it by marrying between themselves... and it ended up in disaster, making a major blow to the idea of restoring monarchy. However, they do have an offspring, Prince Giorgi (born 2011), which can become the ultimate pretender. The Church and it's head still entertain this idea, but realistically after the marriage fiasco they got pushback and they wait until the new prince matures, decides if he cares about it (Head of Church there actually does try to influence him and his parents) and then... wait for another political crisis in Georgia.

And yet, even with such rather favorable conditions the prospect of monarchy restoration is really quite low there - the only notable thing is that it actually exists as a political idea and may become relevant, it is not that marginal.

The issue is that... most people aren't invested in reinstating monarchy. Especially in post-soviet countries where nobility was all but destroyed during communism and influence of Church is often not as deep as it wishes it had, the traditional political allies are simply not present. In Geogia, unlike Russia, at least Church is strong enough politically and it is sympathetic to this idea (but even then doesn't discuss or suggest it casually); in Russia Church is much weaker relatively, lacks as much political power and influence, doesn't even have majority or a clear big group of the monarchist sympathizers, it is seen as marginal idea even there.

Okaydokey...nice and reliable...

I mean, they are really marginal. They also can't have any claims since all ex-Soviet states are deriving from states created as a result of Revolution. USSR didn't "continue" Russian Empire, it became a new entity in it's place and Russia today inherits USSR, not Russian Empire.

There is no de-jure ability to claim anything, their only chance is to hope that somehow they would be invited to be Russian monarchs again. And that means that state should invite them to rule, so someone should support them.

The only thing over which the fight goes on is about leadership in Romanovs house. And you can't research it as there is feud and each side has it's own truth and reasons why they are true leaders of Romanov house.

Lastly, the negative perception of Nikolai II is rather strong. People may forgive him for killing rioters and incompetence, but he lost WWI for Russia, seen as a loser that led Russia to ruin. In eyes of many if not majority of Russians it is an unforgivable sin. And that lays a dark shadow on other Romanovs.
 
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Okaydokey...nice and reliable...
There is no scholarly work on inbred Russo-Franco pretenders making noise in an empty marina from their old yacht .
 
now my iPhone is recommending I research Anna Anderson...
 
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