Are there any recommandation to which Italian nation to play?
And is it possible to create Italy?
And is it possible to create Italy?
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To recreate the Medieval Kingdom of Italy you need to be one of the following:
Milan, Mantua, Modena, Savoy, Tuscany.
Modena is kinda short on events, but the rest have quite a few.
Milan, Mantua, Modena, Savoy, Tuscany.
Modena is kinda short on events, but the rest have quite a few.
The best countries to early unite KOI (Kingdom of Italy - in the Medieval meaning of North of Papacy) is IMHO Milan (since it has a strong economy, it gets a early vassalization on Genua and has best generals. For a more long term game, Savoy is in a good position, given it starts with two provinces (even if only one counts, but being two provinces helps a lot in vassalization/diploannex if you play peacefully) and can usually develop good relationship with France, which is very useful to contain Spain and Austria.
Tuscany, Modena and Mantua are harder and harder.
What about the Papel States? I know they can´t form italy, but ain´t they the only nation, which can gain anything from Rome?
I personally don't like playing Papacy, since I believe the game engine is unsuited to do it properly. Papacy chance of success IRL had nothing to do with territorial expansion, direct colonization, winning battles and so on. The Pope should be happy (and his score should be high) when a province is converted to Catholicism, when countries become less innovative, when Catholic nations stop fighting each other and move war to infidels or heretics.
Since you can't play this way, and I just find crazy to play Papal States just as it was any other country, I do not recommend it.
I guess that Naples can be very interesting in 1.4.2, with the new Aragonese/Angevin wars and events.
Since you can't play this way, and I just find crazy to play Papal States just as it was any other country, I do not recommend it.
I guess that Naples can be very interesting in 1.4.2, with the new Aragonese/Angevin wars and events.
Play Genoa and spread the republic to all of Italy. Plus you get a new ruler every year which is crazy. I'm Playing Genoa now and I've taken almost all Italian provinces, have the Papacy, Egypt, and an enlarged Tunisia as my vassals. Plus I got France as an ally. Can't wait to lead it into the Victorian age.
Only problem is that it forces you to become vassalized to Spain or France early on no matter what your position. I just edited that out of the save game.
No matter who you pick, don't make the difficulty too hard becasue the cheating AI will whomp you.
Only problem is that it forces you to become vassalized to Spain or France early on no matter what your position. I just edited that out of the save game.
No matter who you pick, don't make the difficulty too hard becasue the cheating AI will whomp you.
At which time in the game, do you get the change to create italy? And will there be any events as Italy?
And are there any real benefits, when creating Italy? Or do you only get the new flag?
By the way, are there any comments on playing as Venice?
By the way, are there any comments on playing as Venice?
Just posted info on how to form Italy in the EEP FAQ. You get the flag, new cores and the leaders of the founding state and of Milan.
Thanks!
Do you get a core on all the KOI provinces? And if you form Italy as Savoy, do you then loose the French culture?
Do you get a core on all the KOI provinces? And if you form Italy as Savoy, do you then loose the French culture?
Just forget the first question. I have found which cores are added.
But what makes Savoy so much easier to play than Tuscany? If you can get a second province as Tuscany early on, isn´t it then as "easy" to play them. From the event file it seems that Tuscany has more interesting events than Savoy.
But what makes Savoy so much easier to play than Tuscany? If you can get a second province as Tuscany early on, isn´t it then as "easy" to play them. From the event file it seems that Tuscany has more interesting events than Savoy.
Not sure what experiences you mean.
You cannot form Italy but there are many new interesting events for Venice as well.