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robc04

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While I was writing this post: http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum...lationship&p=12196385&viewfull=1#post12196385, it made me wonder about this question.

Why do you love CK? Do you like to roleplay and use your imagination to fill in the details about your dynasty and court members? Do you just play it as a strategy game and look at the 'numbers'? I would like to hear your opinions if you would like to share as I am having a hard time getting into this game.
 
I like it because it's in the Medieval age, which I like, and the characters involvement and interaction on the strategy side of the game is a factor which adds to the enjoyment significantly. It's also very smooth to play on my old laptop. Loading: CK - 1 minute (max) EU3 - 10 minutes. I also like the tier system and starting as a duke formin a kingdome
 
I was hoping more would chime in. I really am interested and I'm not going to try and dispute the reasons you enjoy the game. I just want to get a better understanding of why people like it and perhaps gain an appreciation which will make me enjoy it more.
 
I actually like roleplaying a character (or family, by extension), and creating a story through the generic events they get hit with.
What's more epic than starting as a lowly count, and go on and have your offspring conquer the Holy Land in the Holy Father's name? :)
 
Probably cause its so different from other games. Its grand strategy but your not playing a country your playing a person in that country. In EU3 if your Dynasty dies out big woop another Dynasty takes control and you keep playing most of the time without even a stability loss from the change in leadership. In Crusader kings you have to work to make sure that your dynasty is strong. Hell sometimes it early on as a small dynasty you can just sit there praying for your ruler to have a son. Its so very different from other games yet very awesome. Not to mention the Satisfaction of taking some weak little count and then making your way to the moment where your work and grinding pays off and your Dynasty becomes a Royal Dynasty and your guy is named king.
 
Well, of course it is the control of individual characters. I was always irritated in EU3 (I am new to CK) that I would offer marriages whilst having no idea which relative of mine was being married to which relative of theirs and how it would affect either of our successions.

However, in answer to robc04's main question, I do tend to play it as a strategy game rather than an RPG. But this would be true of other strategy/roleplaying games. I even used the play The Sims more as a strategy game.

Perhaps for this reason, I think the nation concept (is that the right word? You know what I mean; Kingdoms, with Dukes and Counts as Vassals, Duchies with Counts as Vassals) is very important; if CK were just about the dynasty and (to a far lesser extent, courtiers), for me it would lose its appeal. Not only do I want a strong dynasty; I also want to aquire more territory, more vassals, more titles, and wish to see the downfall of other rival countries, not necessarily merely the deposition of their ruling dynasty; as an Englishman it is always satifying to see the demise of France. :)

In fact this is my one concern from the CK2 developer diaries:
In Crusader Kings II, we aim to really hone in on the importance of characters - their personalities, interests and interactions - and to tone down the relevance of "countries".
But this is far too vague a statement (as befits the very first developer diary) to trouble me much. How I look forward to CK2!
 
I like playing CK because of the characters and the fact you are the head of a dynasty in which you need to keep it strong and grow. I have to admit, that I have not played as much as I think I should be.

I'm going to get back into the game and play it through a couple of times. I really wish you could create your own dynasty in some way, but then again it wouldn't make much sense to do that, it wouldn't work in my opinion.

At any rate, I care more about my family when I play than I do with the actual country I am a vassal of. I find it fun to grow and develop the family. I think it's the best feature of the game, because you know exactly who is in your family, what they are doing, who they support, and the titles they hold. It's just a great game, and I can't wait for the second one.