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I think the stats are not as bad as this thread makes them appear. The average stat is 2.4 (2.5 if regencies and Native Council are counted) and the average total is 7.28 (7.64). But they are still lower than what they should be if 3/3/3 is meant to be an average ruler

I think given the number of nations involved, 2.4 average is still significantly low.

Obviously fixing this would take a few hours, so is more than any Paradox dev is likely to want to do. But in an ideal world, I think nations should be given a pass so that all "who really knows" leaders were given stats totaling 9 (maybe with a slight bias toward whatever stat the nation would be most expected to lean to).

Really, once you knock out the "we have strong opinions about their competence" rulers, the average ought to fall somewhere between 2.9 and 3.1.
 
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Doesn't hold up to EU 4 empirical outcomes or even logical scrutiny, so no.
"These leaders don't have stats higher than they do because we don't want them to have the benefits they'd get from their stats being higher than they currently are."

How does that not hold up to logical scrutiny?
 
"These leaders don't have stats higher than they do because we don't want them to have the benefits they'd get from their stats being higher than they currently are."

How does that not hold up to logical scrutiny?
Because the reason for not wanting to give them said benefits is allegedly "balance".
 
The notion that raising an OPM's starting monarch from 2/2/2 to 3/3/3 would materially affect their circumstances in the hands of the AI is obviously false.
Again, I never said that leader stats determine outcome, just that higher leader stats are objectively better than lower ones.
Because the reason for not wanting to give them said benefits is allegedly "balance".
What?
 
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