Will Mac users ever get to play Livy?

[Pyrrhus84]

Have the “hit start and freeze up” bug. It’s well known at this point. Is there any chance I’ll ever get to play past 1.2? Because I love this game but will just find another one if I’m locked out of all other content.

I just don’t understand how y’all can just abandon tons of people for whom the game worked fine under 1.2 but cannot even start the game under 1.3+

I also don’t understand what could have changed so substantially that my comp can’t run Livy when Cicero ran smooth as butter. It’s not like a bunch of graphics were added or anything, right?

And yes, I tried the suggested fixes several times. I’ve been doing 1.2 but it’s just not as compelling when everything on the boards and reddit looks so great and it’s even a free update to boot!

Is there any hope?

 

[AndrewT]

This only affects users with unsupported hardware, mostly Intel video systems. This game - any of our games - is simply not tested on unsupported hardware so it's a matter of luck that it ever worked.

Why was it okay under 1.2 but not 1.3 ? I don't know but clearly some graphical function has changed that trips up the game under MacOS only.

Will the devs fix it anyway? I don't know that either, but I suspect that would only happen by accident, ie if fixing something else happened to remove the function that causes MacOS so much trouble.

If you have Bootcamp installed the game should run fine under that even on Intel video, at least at present.


I'm sorry to not be able to give you the answer you want.

 

[DesNibelungen]

Have the “hit start and freeze up” bug. It’s well known at this point. Is there any chance I’ll ever get to play past 1.2? Because I love this game but will just find another one if I’m locked out of all other content.

I had already moved on after the botched 1.0 release, but came back to check out 1.3. Oops. So long, Imperator. You'd think in a game that needs every player it can get, they'd do something about this, but apparently not.

What this means is that if you play on a Macbook, you can never depend on updates not breaking the game permanently for any PDS game in the future. A theoretical Vicky 3 might work fine at first, then suddenly stop after an update, and the problem won't get fixed.

I never thought I'd miss the days when PDS outsourced Mac development, but suddenly I do.

 

[Pyrrhus84]

This only affects users with unsupported hardware, mostly Intel video systems. This game - any of our games - is simply not tested on unsupported hardware so it's a matter of luck that it ever worked.

Why was it okay under 1.2 but not 1.3 ? I don't know but clearly some graphical function has changed that trips up the game under MacOS only.

Will the devs fix it anyway? I don't know that either, but I suspect that would only happen by accident, ie if fixing something else happened to remove the function that causes MacOS so much trouble.

If you have Bootcamp installed the game should run fine under that even on Intel video, at least at present.


I'm sorry to not be able to give you the answer you want.

I’m just amazed that given the sheer number of threads here on the forum and the daily complaints on reddit that this wouldn’t be even a low priority. I mean, what would possibly have been added that is so important? The little dummies cohorts are fighting while training???

Let me play the game and take my money for future expansions, damnit!

 

[AndrewT]

Here is the Bug Reports thread on the problem:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...nning-after-mac-os-update-to-10-15-1.1270453/

By all means post your cases to there, it can only help in raising the profile of the issue.

Again I am sorry this has happened, I wish I had better news for you.

 

[DesNibelungen]

Here is the Bug Reports thread on the problem:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...nning-after-mac-os-update-to-10-15-1.1270453/

That is not the same issue. That thread is reporting a crash on launch in version 1.2. Different issue then the failure to start on 1.3.