But Ben Plumm says he's part Ibbish, so we know that breeding happens.
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But Ben Plumm says he's part Ibbish, so we know that breeding happens.
I would agree that they sound like Neanderthals, but the sterile/twisted children seems to be odd, both in universe and out of it- Neanderthal DNA seems to be in European populations DNA. Added to that, Brown Ben Plum seems to believe that he has Ibbenish blood from his grandmother.
That said, the Ibbish being Neanderthals definitely seems a given.
I don't think it's actually widely believed that Bran the Builder was a descendant of Garth Greenhand. IIRC it's only a version of the lore (though I might be wrong), as the Greenhand is more of a primitive fertilty god than an actual historical figure.
I doubt it is endorsed by anyone in the North...
EDIT: Also, it seems to me that the actual founder of house Gardener wasn't him, but rather his son Garth the Gardener, so he could (maybe) have his own dynasty, house Greenhand, or something.
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If some recent discoverys are to be believed Neanderthals might be partial ancestors or modern man via unions with Cromagnons
Well it's just as possible that "Garth" is an euhemerized version of "Greenhands", or they were two separate figures that got conflated.
It's a bit more certain than that. All populations outside of Sub-Saharan Africa definitely have DNA from H. sapiens neanderthalensis, and the earliest H. sapiens sapiens skeleton from Europe has unbroken sequences of Neanderthal DNA, indicating relatively recent Neanderthal descent.
They claim to be. Of course, given that they ruled for thousands of years, it would be more surprising if they hadn't intermarried (and probably with some of the other kingdoms as well). For that matter, the Starks, even if not descended from Garth through Brandon, probably have some Gardener blood through the Manderlys.
But lets get back to events that might be implemented:
-I have to admit, I was interested in the Priest-king Lodos. An interesting super-rare event might be one where a pretender to being Lodos shows up, and you have to either defeat him (fighting a reasonably strong, but not overwhelming, stack) or placate him (possibly with events modeled on the White Elephant chain in vanilla; e.g. instead of getting loose and trampling some people, he stirs up a mob against some visiting Greenlanders; instead of an opinion hit, getting rid of him causes the doomstacks to appear; wheathering all his negative events without fighting eventually causes him to recognize you as rightful king, and gives you a high learning drowned man in your court). In-story, Lord Greyjoy would have decided to crush him during Aenys's reign.
-An independent Kingdom of the Reach could try and restore their traditional knightly order (I forget the name and don't want to look it up again, but it's in the Reach section).
-More culture specific assassination plots! A Lorathi could get "lost" in a maze, a Norvoshi could get "lost" in their enormous cavern system
-Worshipers of the Black Goat should be able to sacrifice prisoners (and possibly get a more limited set of the Rhllor/Warlock magic options, or alternatively just a temporary, non-stackable bonus to martial)
While modern humans share some nuclear DNA with the extinct Neanderthals, the two species do not share any mitochondrial DNA, which in primates is always maternally transmitted. This observation has prompted the hypothesis that whereas female humans interbreeding with male Neanderthals were able to generate fertile offspring, the progeny of female Neanderthals who mated with male humans were either rare, absent or sterile. However, some researchers have argued that there is evidence of possible interbreeding between female Neanderthals and male modern humans.
From wikipedia, because this probably isn't the place to copy/paste an actual anthropological essay on the subject. And yes, I am aware of the findings earlier this year.
Regardless, neaderthals are clearly what they were going for with the Ibbenese and Brindled Men.
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I thought that they were inspired by Dwarves, according to some article I don't recall. Apparently GRRM's co-writer liked Dwarves, so decided to make the people of Ibben essentially whaler Dwarves. Whether there is any truth to this, of course, is debatable, especially since I can't remember where I read it.
Reading the bit about the Brindled Men ironically gave me the mental image of an "Apeman" or the old scientific image of one, walking up right like a modern human but heavily muscled and brutal looking and with a lot of hair...
Are the Brindled Men (they are the native people of Sothoryos, right?) going to be represented in any way in the new version of the mod?
A huge thing for the mod is the bomb that Quellon Greyjoy was still alive during Robert's Rebellion (which explains why Balon did nothing). Also Quellon was convinced by his sons to join the war, and they intended to invade the Reach and declare for Robert, but faced a humiliating defeat against none other than the Shield Islands.
This probably makes Euron's invasion of the Shields kind of a revenge for his father's failed invasion.
This probably makes Euron's invasion of the Shields kind of a revenge for his father's failed invasion.