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Patch 1.05 seems to work on my New Zealand un-copy protected installation.

I had 1.00 installed. I downloaded the 1.05 patch from one of the addresses given above and executed it. I now have a EU II installation which advertises itself as "1.05" with considerably more events for Nippon, and which still doesn't require the CD inserted to play.

I suggest all ANZACs with the same problem give it a try.

I'm not happy about the number of revolts in Nippon, though. Alright, you bastard peasants, time to feel the iron fist!
 
1.05 is a huge improvement over the previous one. Due to lack of space, I deleted the previous corrections of 1.01 to 1.03, but you can still search the EU2 gd for them.

1.05 changes are listed on top of the forum (latest patch).
 
Re: Noisy music

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I've installed 1.05. Unfortunately there still seems to be a problem with the music - a lot of background noise. IS there a solution to this?
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I don't really know, I haven't had this problem since the early beta days.

Try the "Running problems" thread on top of the forum.
 
Below is nothing more than my own thoughts and experience with EU2 over the last 36 hours.

Firstly I came across this site after “patching” my EU2 to v1.04 (I am in Australia which should give you an idea of what I’m about to write next). The patch of course did nothing but render my game inoperable, exactly the same as other AU/NZ users in this forum. Needless to say frustrations were very high when you outlay $90 for a game which should have been an expansion pack at best, and calling it EU “2” is nothing short of an outright insult to gamers. As countless game reviewers have pointed out, the “This game is dedicated to our fans” comment shows the shortsightedness of the designers.

But back to my story. The other day I downloaded the “Nordic” patch in a futile attempt to get the game to work. Yep, you guessed it… useless. Everywhere I looked there were references to patches 1.01 through to 1.03, but the only one available (all links point to Paradox) was 1.04. I must say only a highly stupid game company deletes older patches when they are so arrogant that they assume that the “final final” patch is the one which fixes everything. How wrong they were.

How does a patch go from 1.04 being 2.5Mb to 1.05 being a whopping 15Mb?? This seems absolutely amazing and given the list of changes it is totally disproportionate. And that’s another thing. The list of “gameplay tweaks” is now so massive that its ridiculous. The designers should be embarrassed with that colossal list of changes. It is quite obvious that there was no play testing of this game. And if fanatical fans or company representatives insist otherwise, I can say only that it was the most useless bit of playtesting in history. The beta version of a game is supposed to flush out issues of massive game imbalances and NOT patch versions 1.01 through to 1.05.

Why exactly is it that Australia and New Zealand are the big losers this time? For EU1 there was a patch for the US, UK, Sweden, Romania, Ukraine, Kazakstan, Ethiopia, Iceland, and every other backwater on the planet. Now with EU2 one of the bigger markets, AU/NZ, is being not only ignored, but left with a product that is clearly defective. Get your priorities right Paradox! You have just alienated a very big market indeed.

And the manual… don’t get me started. No index?? Do the Swedes not believe in an index or what? Its not a fairy tale or an unachievable task to stick the page number of major headings at the front of a book.

EU2 is little more than a game being pumped out the door as fast as possible because some amateur game designers received feedback from hardcore fans (which there always will be no matter how mediocre the game). Delay shipping the damn game and FIX IT!! The experience of every Aussie and NZer should serve as a warning of what can happen when the goal of producers is to get a box on a shelf in a store without so much as a thought for the quality of what is being put there. And who can blame pirates and high school kids burning games when we are being asked for cough up top dollar for a product which is so obviously and massively flawed.

To prove the point I am making here, I looked at the version of EU2.exe that I have. If I install from the original CD I bought at the software shop, little more than a week ago, the file version (right click on EU2.exe, go to properties, go to version tab) is nothing more than "0.9 Beta". That is the honest truth of what this company is trying to pass on to consumers as a finished product. There is no way I am paying $90 for a Beta version piece of crap. Paradox, I don't know how you stay in business, as you are one of the most pathetic software companies I have ever come across.

The game itself might be enjoyable and a good concept, but my opinion of Strategy First, Paradox, and every other company involved with EU2 has just dropped way past –200. All gamers should receive a permanent Casus Belli against you all! It is a terrible shame that such a great game can be so mismanaged by the wrong people. I certainly hope the companies involved get bought out by another, more reputable, software house so this product can receive the attention it deserves. Shame on you all!

Disgruntled User
 
While I understand your frustration (I would be very frustrated if I was leaving in Australia or New Zealand) I want to point out a few things:

1- This forum is for technical support issues only; long post like yours don't belong in this section, but in the EU2-General discussion section. I'll leave it there for now but in the future, general comments are for BiB, not me :D
2- About beta testing: I disagree strongly with you. Many of the bugs in 1.05 where reported earlier by testers, but they weren't fixed before due to lack of time. Paradox is a small company and has only one programmer, Johan. So, fixing is a bit slow sometimes as EU is complex and he has a lot to do.
3- Manual: Mine as an index, so it is a publisher issue. I suggest you adress this to Ozisoft (www.ozisoft.com) as they are the one printing your manual, not Paradox.
4- Patch delays: I do not know. Strategy First is the publisher, but Ozisoft represents them for this market. There seems to be a lot of confusion between who does what and I can't say more as I do not know. I encourage you to voice your concerns over SF board however.
5- Patch 1.05: unfortunately, this isn't the good patch :( Somebody made a mistake and released the wrong patch. There is a general announcement for this.

Again sorry, for your troubles, but most of them are related to the publishers, Strategy First and Ozisoft. There is nothing we can do for you about these issue, but I think you would be better expressing your opinions to these people rather than to Paradox.

I can only express my opinion here that I don't understand why Strategy First and Ozisoft publish a game on version 1.00 when version 1.04 was available. Imho, version 1.00 was not for public use and that's why Paradox made a 1.01 patch that arrived at the same time as the game hit stores. The game was rushed for NA release and nobody will deny it.

Still sad for your problem, and I hope they get solved quickly :(
 
I generally dont complain about things, but its hard to sit and watch such a great game be let down so badly in the delivery stage. I take your comments about the appropriate venue for my frustrations on board, and the only reason I posted here is because this thread was the only one I have read fully. But since we are discussing support here, lets do so.

Your point #5 - What do you mean 1.05 is not the "good" patch? And where can I find the announcement you mentioned?

Thanks (for your reply, as well as reading the frustrations of a fellow gamer)
 
Originally posted by DisgruntledUser
I generally dont complain about things, but its hard to sit and watch such a great game be let down so badly in the delivery stage. I take your comments about the appropriate venue for my frustrations on board, and the only reason I posted here is because this thread was the only one I have read fully. But since we are discussing support here, lets do so.

Your point #5 - What do you mean 1.05 is not the "good" patch? And where can I find the announcement you mentioned?

Thanks (for your reply, as well as reading the frustrations of a fellow gamer)
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It is at the top of the forums in the main lobby:-

http://www.europa-universalis.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38074
 
Ahh I see. Well thats not too helpful is it.

I do have to point out one thing... your comment "the game is playable with 1.04" is (after reading this thread, which I'm sure you have) totally incorrect.

I will patch my game to the "bad" 1.05 and let you know my experience after this weekend. Of course when a "good" 1.05 comes out I will repatch.

You may also be interested to know that Ozisoft still has the "bad" 1.05 patch up on their webpage http://gnforums.planet.net.au/Patches/EU2_105.EXE .. is that out of malicious intent or just laziness?
 
Oh and I won't do anything like gloat about how this is yet another prime example of these companies rushing to get things on the shelf so fast that it ends up being complete junk.

The only reason I am not returning the game to the software shop I bought it from is because I do not have the stamina to discuss this problem in detail with some snotty store clerk who will just go "ummm so whats wrong with the game sir?"
 
Originally posted by DisgruntledUser
Oh and I won't do anything like gloat about how this is yet another prime example of these companies rushing to get things on the shelf so fast that it ends up being complete junk.

The only reason I am not returning the game to the software shop I bought it from is because I do not have the stamina to discuss this problem in detail with some snotty store clerk who will just go "ummm so whats wrong with the game sir?"
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the game is playabe with 1.04 currently for American users. For Australian, we expected Ozisoft to place a correct 1.04 patch on their site :( Unfortunately for you are left with playing 1.00 with your version :( there is nothing I can do for you except telling you to be patient.

if you want to return the game, I would suggest copying and pasting your previous message and e-mailing it to Ozisoft and ask for a refund. I do not know if they will answer you however.

I do not know why Ozisoft still has the link on their page, but I have removed it from here following UD announcement. The official patch is scheduled for May 28th as I've heard but I know nothing more :( And I still don't understand why Ozisoft and Strategy First released the game on 1.00 when 1.04 was available for them. And I cannot answer this :D However, you can complain on Strategy First's web site about this and point to Uglyduck's thread about the wrong patch.
 
DisgruntledUser, cut Viper a little slack. This problem was not caused by Paradox who have an outstanding record in supporting their product. The cause of the problem, which has yet to be explained, appears to lie between Strategy First in the US & Ozisoft in Australia in someone sending or someone using an obsolete version as the ANZAC gold disc.

We all agree that it would have been nice if Ozisoft had promptly corrected the problem, as they ought to. But blaming someone who has no control over the process, ie Paradox who produced but did not publish the game, does not advance matters.

BTW the ersatz ANZAC patch 1.05 is working fine on my game and I will continue to enjoy using it until the proper patch arrives at which time, I will take the 5 minutes to remove the old version, install the new version and get on with life.
 
Originally posted by Davout
The cause of the problem, which has yet to be explained, appears to lie between Strategy First in the US & Ozisoft in Australia in someone sending or someone using an obsolete version as the ANZAC gold disc.
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Strategy First is in Montreal, Quebec (Canada), not the US! :D
 
Originally posted by Davout


This problem was not caused by Paradox who have an outstanding record in supporting their product. The cause of the problem, which has yet to be explained, appears to lie between Strategy First in the US & Ozisoft in Australia in someone sending or someone using an obsolete version as the ANZAC gold disc.

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Well to be quite honest this is an EU2 problem and I am a user of EU2. Apportioning blame for a product is not really appropriate, IMO. ie saying "this has nothing to do with Paradox, its an Ozisoft problem and we dont want to hear about it" is not really in the spirit of good customer relations. The fact is these companies should have been working together a lot more and I refuse to isolate one single company and blame them. The blame for this problem lies with all of them. You only have to follow the whole 1.05 saga to realise how badly this whole thing has been managed.

As for "enjoying" the current 1.05 patch... well we don't have much choice do we? We either enjoy that one (labeled as "bad" by the company that released it), or we enjoy the hopelessly inadequate 1.00, or else we enjoy the non-operational (for Aussies) 1.04. Hope you are getting as much enjoyment as me!
 
Right - let us get things right.
This Forum is for Technical support.
Viper isnt a member of Paradox (neither am I) but an unpaid volunteer. He does a great job with this forum and had helped many people.
Unfortunately he is never going to satisfy you. Your Nickname says it all. There is no point in him trying to to talk to you or explain anything as you have your mind already set.
Therefore this thread is closed.
You might want to contact Paradox and Ozisoft directly yourself and explain your problems and observations. They may have more information than we have :)
Thank you sorry we could not help.
 
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