WW2 Europe, no US involvement, post fall of France.

[Grandpa Maur]

No, I am comparing the volume of deliveries with the volume of tanks used in that battle. 4-5 divisions worth of tanks in fact is a huge number. So either those delivered tanks sit in a warehouse and are not used, or they are used somewhere and have influence of some kind. If those tanks are not used, then 1000

Yes...

tanks have to be found from somewhere else.

No. For example, these could be used in forming new units/training recruits and it could be something that did not happen or a worse substitute could be found (and it would have effect only later).

 

[DupplinMuir]

Not to mention the British counted a target as 'hit' if the bombs landed somewhere in a 30 mile circle drawn around the target. While we all know the Norden bombsight wasn't half as good as advertised but the USAAF still had better results than the British.

That's a falsehood often repeated by Americans, but in reality both the USSBS and the USAF historian Richard G Davis agree that the RAF was significantly more accurate at night than the Americans were during the day, and the margin of British superiority increased throughout the war as the RAF perfected its technology and tactics, while the USAAF flew higher and higher (and became less and less accurate) to try to avoid flak.

Additionally, the heavy bombs dropped by the RAF were the only weapons capable of doing serious damage; the light bombs dropped by the USAAF could damage buildings but not knock-out machinery or oil refineries. As a result the British were responsible for the overwhelming amount of damage done to the German economy, particularly oil and transportation.

 

[Andre Bolkonsky]

The US Strategic Bombing Campaign was designed for one very particular purpose: to occupy and pin down the German fighter force in such numbers they could not be deployed to other fronts.

And, as such, the Strategic Bomber Command was bled white while constantly evolving defensive tactics, but kept up daylight operations regardless; until the P-51D arrived in overwhelming numbers and leveled the playing field dramatically. When they arrived over Berlin, Hermann Goering famously changed his name to Meyer.

Once air supremacy was established, under that umbrella her tactical airforces wreaked holy havoc on the railyards and logistical infrastructure of occupied France, and decimating any German military formations that came into their grasp once their armored columns began open field running.

Ask those King Tigers about the Tactical XIX Air Force during the battle of the Bulge when they integrated with Third Army forward spotters when the weather cleared. They didn't fare well, I think is a good way to put it.

So, when you look at that bombing record, I invite you to keep this in mind.

 

[Baron Jukaga]

That's a falsehood often repeated by Americans, but in reality both the USSBS and the USAF historian Richard G Davis agree that the RAF was significantly more accurate at night than the Americans were during the day, and the margin of British superiority increased throughout the war as the RAF perfected its technology and tactics, while the USAAF flew higher and higher (and became less and less accurate) to try to avoid flak.

Additionally, the heavy bombs dropped by the RAF were the only weapons capable of doing serious damage; the light bombs dropped by the USAAF could damage buildings but not knock-out machinery or oil refineries. As a result the British were responsible for the overwhelming amount of damage done to the German economy, particularly oil and transportation.

I'd be curious to read any material you might recommend on the subject that advances your assertion. What I've read regarding the accuracy claim of the 30 mile circle came from British sources.

 

[Easy-Kill]

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No. For example, these could be used in forming new units/training recruits and it could be something that did not happen or a worse substitute could be found (and it would have effect only later).

Those 1000 tanks were about 20-25% of Soviet production in 1941. While your suggestions are plausible, they are not probable and there are substantial reports of the valentine tanks being used in the battle of Moscow to justify the claim that they had an effect.

 

[Easy-Kill]

The US Strategic Bombing Campaign was designed for one very particular purpose: to occupy and pin down the German fighter force in such numbers they could not be deployed to other fronts.

And, as such, the Strategic Bomber Command was bled white while constantly evolving defensive tactics, but kept up daylight operations regardless; until the P-51D arrived in overwhelming numbers and leveled the playing field dramatically. When they arrived over Berlin, Hermann Goering famously changed his name to Meyer.

Once air supremacy was established, under that umbrella her tactical airforces wreaked holy havoc on the railyards and logistical infrastructure of occupied France, and decimating any German military formations that came into their grasp once their armored columns began open field running.

Ask those King Tigers about the Tactical XIX Air Force during the battle of the Bulge when they integrated with Third Army forward spotters when the weather cleared. They didn't fare well, I think is a good way to put it.

So, when you look at that bombing record, I invite you to keep this in mind.

This is a wholly I ports t point in that the. US strategic bombardment campaign was aiming to achieve a wholly different set of objectives to the British (albeit with the same goal). This is particularly true in the 1942-43 period where the ISA had far more limited numbers to the UK and then again in 1944 onwards where again the objectives changed for both bombing commands.