According to the awoiaf.westeros page for the battle of Qohor it was. The Unsullied were arrayed before (ie in front of) the city gates, the Dothraki charged them eighteen times yet they didn't break (that in itself would be impressive for any medieval force).
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According to the awoiaf.westeros page for the battle of Qohor it was. The Unsullied were arrayed before (ie in front of) the city gates, the Dothraki charged them eighteen times yet they didn't break (that in itself would be impressive for any medieval force).
Looking up the description for the Unsullied, they wore quilted armor, shields, spears, short sword and fought in a phalanx. A shield is one of the biggest deal breakers in warfare..it cancels out a good many things. Especially with a long spear and a tight formation, making it almost invulnerable to frontal attack which is what the Dothraki did at Qohor because according to the source material, they made no effort to outflank the Unsullied out of sheer contempt for the infantry. (shades of Agincourt !) The fact that only 600 Unsullied survived out of 3000 at Qohor says something about their morale, not to mention the Dothraki who lost almost all of their horsemen. So..you could say Daernys has two of the most fanatical groups of troops in all of Westeros and Essos.
In historical terms, the Unsullied come closest to Alexander's sarissa armed phalanx except that the Unsullied had shields and shorter spears. Unlike their successors, the Alexandrian sarissa armed phalanxes were remarkably flexible and mobile - the Successors armed them more heavily and with less mobility.
The Unsullied quilted armor also comes close to being similar to the linothorax armor worn by most of Alexander's troops. They were the ancient version of kevlar armor. Tests have shown that 16 to 24 layer linen armor glued together with animal glue was VERY effective in stopping ancient missile weapons and up to a point, even spears. In fact, Greek Age arrow fire couldn't even penetrate 20 and 25 layer linothorax armor.
In historical terms, the Unsullied come closest to Alexander's sarissa armed phalanx except that the Unsullied had shields and shorter spears. Unlike their successors, the Alexandrian sarissa armed phalanxes were remarkably flexible and mobile - the Successors armed them more heavily and with less mobility.
The Unsullied quilted armor also comes close to being similar to the linothorax armor worn by most of Alexander's troops. They were the ancient version of kevlar armor. Tests have shown that 16 to 24 layer linen armor glued together with animal glue was VERY effective in stopping ancient missile weapons and up to a point, even spears. In fact, Greek Age arrow fire couldn't even penetrate 20 and 25 layer linothorax armor.
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I wonder what effect the religions on Westeros would have on this conflict. Would the red priesthood be able to rally more soldiers behind Dany. Does anyone know how many soldiers the warriors' sons and poor fellows have because they could change things.
The quilted tunic they come with could also be a gambeson, which also is quite effective against arrows, especially the lower force ones of horse archers. Anyway, when Daenerys "buys" the Unsullied the Masters tell her that they will wear any other armour she is willing to provide for them.
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It's ultimately pitting what is an army, vs what is only one element of the army. The Unsullied spirit is commendable but beyond that they are largely overhyped.
With that in mind, the Golden Company would defeat an Unsullied force that was 1:1 let alone Dany's 6000. They've got experience and better commanders (who aren't going to repeat the stupidity of the Dothraki at Qohor). Not only that, their force is diverse; they don't just have infantry, they've got westerosi knights, elephants, a large compliment of archers (incl crossbows etc).
The question becomes more interesting when it becomes Golden Company vs a mix of Unsullied, Dothraki and one (or more) of Dany's merc companies IMO.
Over 100 knights have pledged to the Warrior's Sons. No idea on the poor fellows but you'd have to think surely that they'd have quite a bit more than their counterpart if nothing else.
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Well Dany wins because she has dragons. I remember Arumba's lets play of this Mod where after finishing the story events he conquers the world by clicking on the various characters, declaring war and saying "I have dragons".
I expect the books will operate on a similar logic.
"Aegon won the Throne by force and a masterstroke of diplomacy and intrigue and tactical ingenuity"
"Thats Nice, I have dragons"
Unsullied v GC dont really come into the equation.
I expect the books will operate on a similar logic.
"Aegon won the Throne by force and a masterstroke of diplomacy and intrigue and tactical ingenuity"
"Thats Nice, I have dragons"
Unsullied v GC dont really come into the equation.