Anniversary Maintenance Patch - 2.0.4 (Open Beta)

[Gratak]

I think I found one change. Unless I'm mistaken the capitalization of the executable was fixed (for Linux and Mac, probably won't even show in Windows).

 

[Herennius]

Maybe my mind is playing tricks on me...but has the name of IR's Steam entry changed in the last couple of days? I'm pretty sure it said "beta" behind the 2.04 - and that now is gone...?

That could indeed hint towards a silent go-live. OTOH, opting out of the Beta still pushes you back to 2.03 - however, it would not be the first time in PC games history that such a final (semi?)-official patch remains in a state that requires actively opting-in to get it... Anyway, some official clarification is welcome (but not pressing, vacation should take precedence)

 

[olivenkranz]

At least my Mac can't load the beta; 2.0.3 has no issues however. Pic is with beta enabled.

 

[Gratak]

At least my Mac can't load the beta; 2.0.3 has no issues however. Pic is with beta enabled.View attachment 1011752

Same as on Linux, yeah. You most likely can start it though by launching the executable outside of Steam

 

[Dementive]

Can confirm the launcher does not work on Linux but the game is functioning fine if you launch it from the executable.

 

[Fungi]

Thanks for the great work!
If i may request one feature that players really wanted for ages: Let your leaders (Kings/Emperors/Consuls/Co-Kings/etc) lead legions. It's one of the things modders can't fix and would make so many people that keep returning to this game happy.

 

[Mayor_S]

It´s kinda hard to find any news on the current process of the 2.0.4 update. The beta branch itself had some iterations afaik but what is new and what is the newest and what has been fixed since the 2.0.4 beta was introduced isnt mentioned anywhere. I want to jump into the 2.0.4 branch but I dont know if the beforementioned problems (site 1-5 ff) are still unfixed in its current state or not. Anyone got a guidance for me?

 

[olivenkranz]

It´s kinda hard to find any news on the current process of the 2.0.4 update. The beta branch itself had some iterations afaik but what is new and what is the newest and what has been fixed since the 2.0.4 beta was introduced isnt mentioned anywhere. I want to jump into the 2.0.4 branch but I dont know if the beforementioned problems (site 1-5 ff) are still unfixed in its current state or not. Anyone got a guidance for me?

If you use a windows, I recommend using the beta. If you do not, you cannot use the beta (unless you do some shenanigans...)

 

[maxk94]

Johan: no it will not change

Who is Johan?

 

[SAS]

Who is Johan?

Been with Paradox Dev Studio for like 20+ years.

 

[28680:GhoulDiamond]

Imo, this game should be revived, i've seen so many people talk about this game recently and 2.0 is a really good product only things it really needs imo is more historical flavor(roman expansion start of Christianity, etc) maybe even extend the end date to a later date idk what that'd be maybe like to the division of the roman empire. Add dlcs for more flavor and mechanics for important nations and eras. Many mods add historical ideas and historical events all the way to the division of the roman empire so you could use those ideas and expand them! These are just ideas though.

 

[jrdndaniels]

Something is wrong with the way Central Delta calculates trade routes in the beta. No matter how many improvements I make nothing changes. Playing the live version I can boost trade easily.

 

[ZombiVoziKombi]

Thank you for doing this! There's an annoying bug I kept running into that I don't see in the patch release notes. It doesn't seem like it would require a major intervention so I hope it gets fixed.

Bug: when one is improving opinion with another nation, saving and reloading will cancel the process if one has improved relations more than the base cap (50 or 100), even when one's Improve Opinion Maximum is boosted by tech, national ideas etc.

Please see the screenshot for details. (I can't post the whole message because it's "spam-like or contains inappropriate elements" ?!)

 

[Lord Shrapnaks]

Hey, I was wondering if there was anything you could do to change these things, they're small, but having them improved would purely be a good thing. I have numbered them from most to least important in my eyes. But what you do is entirely up to you.

1. OVERHAUL ESPIONAGE: I was informed recently that Espionage is an abandoned system, and I think that's unfair! However, I believe that much good can be done were the "commit Espionage" act updated up a bit, and even with new traits that reduce the bad side effects of performing commiting espionage, that could be called "Spy!" or something. Would it be a good idea to make commiting Espionage something you could do in the beginning of the game and make the technology merely nerf its negative health effects? And if this isn't done already, then I think the "Perform Espionage" action's success should be based on Finesse, and given a positive percentage modifier based on the character's Charisma level.
2. SOW SENSE INTO THE CIVIL WARS AND LAND GRABS: I just aided my ally in their own civil war, and thought it was going well, until the territories that Dardania should've been occupying were going to me. Then Dardania peaced out...now I own Dardania. What. The. Hell? There is so much wrong with this, for starters, the civil war itself? Why could I not pick a side? I was unable to choose one Dardania over the other, but that is not the worst thing, I wouldn't particularly care if you didn't fix this issue so long as the rest of what I'm going to speak of here is addressed. Namely, this is the biggest problem, if you're the leader of a war, any territories taken by your allies automatically goes to you, this isn't really a problem until you combine it with another flaw: Any land taken cannot be given to your allies and subjects. What this means is that after Dardania won the war, I owned the land and could not do a thing to resist recieving the ungodly amount of aggressive expansion that resulted from me being unable to return it to my ally, if I was able to do this for the defending side of a civil war, and have it reduce my aggressive expansion, that would be awesome but you cannot return your allies land in peace treaties, nor make them stronger by giving them your conquests. PLEASE DO SOMETHING TO FIX THIS!
3. MEND THE TERRITORY MARKET: For the love of God, I beg you, please consider repairing and overhauling the "sell territory" and "sell province" function, I am just utterly lose on how to sell a province, and actually get money for it! Like, it always starts at zero, I accepted that much, and there are buttons on either side to add and subtract 100 money, cool, but the buttons don't function! No matter what I do, how many provinces I add to the list, the price always remains at zero and it cannot go any higher or lower! It doesn't make sense! It's supposed to be the "SELL PROVINCE/TERRITORY" function, not donate province! This system is utterly broken, and it needs an upgrade, more-over, it also needs expansion, for I see no option to BUY provinces/territories either! And to that matter: why are nations utterly unwilling to buy back their own homeland from you? I mean come on! that is literally their capital city! Their home! The fact that they apparently have zero attachment to it is so stupid, why are the AI nations completely unwilling to buy back their own territories for any amount more than zero?!
4. POLISH THE PRISONER SYSTEM: One of the more annoying things I encounter is that when I win a war, and take the land of the enemy nation that say, took my admiral prisoner, despite him no longer being a prisoner because his captors no longer exist, the notification keeps coming on that I have a prisoner abroad. This is annoying, but I think there should be another option for prisoners: "Post Ransom." In simplest terms, if the prisoner's home nation still exists, this would be the ability to demand a ransom from said nation either during or after you're at war with them. Next up, a peace demand should be for them to release your prisoners, or send them one of your people as a hostage to sweeten that peace deal with Rome you so desperately need, so I think important prisoners should count towards war score. And lastly, this final action would tie in with the proposed espionage overhaul in that one of the things you can get a spy to do is to rescue your imprisoned character abroad which has a chance to spawn a unique spy trait that has positive effects.
5. SMOOTH THE SIEGES: Sieges are great in game, however, besieged fortresses are a little too weak, you can't lose them! I think the scale should be tipped a tiny bit in the defender's favor. If the besieged faction owns lands adjacent to their fortress, then those lands would increase the defender's odds, but if the besiegers have land adjacent to them, and it gets occupied, then their attrition rate should increase due to their supply lines being cut off, and the besieged fortress having ships sailing in the ocean beyond it would straight up give positive dice rolls due to the ships being able to supply the defenders: "Reinforcements." "Resupply" "civilians evacuated." Of course none of these bonuses should be too strong, I don't want fortresses to be impenetrable without needing to build 6 of them in the same location, so do what you want with these ideas, lol!
6. REDUCE CERTAIN SCHEME'S MONEY COSTS TO REASONABLE LEVELS: Like, realistically, it should absolutely not cost two hundred money to "seek treatment," that price is merciless and this action is the worst offender, I think "Seek Treatment" should cost 30, 60 at most. There are other examples but that one comes to mind the most.

 

[mhvg1994]

At least my Mac can't load the beta; 2.0.3 has no issues however. Pic is with beta enabled.View attachment 1011752

The original message literally says the patch is for windows only…

 

[Gratak]

The original message literally says the patch is for windows only…

The later message said that this is supposed to be the final version and included mac and linux.

 

[mhvg1994]

The later message said that this is supposed to be the final version and included mac and linux.

Oops, I didn’t check the messages that far back… sorry

 

[Herennius]

Hey, I was wondering if there was anything you could do to change these things, they're small, but having them improved would purely be a good thing. I have numbered them from most to least important in my eyes. But what you do is entirely up to you.

1. OVERHAUL ESPIONAGE: I was informed recently that Espionage is an abandoned system, and I think that's unfair! However, I believe that much good can be done were the "commit Espionage" act updated up a bit, and even with new traits that reduce the bad side effects of performing commiting espionage, that could be called "Spy!" or something. Would it be a good idea to make commiting Espionage something you could do in the beginning of the game and make the technology merely nerf its negative health effects? And if this isn't done already, then I think the "Perform Espionage" action's success should be based on Finesse, and given a positive percentage modifier based on the character's Charisma level.
2. SOW SENSE INTO THE CIVIL WARS AND LAND GRABS: I just aided my ally in their own civil war, and thought it was going well, until the territories that Dardania should've been occupying were going to me. Then Dardania peaced out...now I own Dardania. What. The. Hell? There is so much wrong with this, for starters, the civil war itself? Why could I not pick a side? I was unable to choose one Dardania over the other, but that is not the worst thing, I wouldn't particularly care if you didn't fix this issue so long as the rest of what I'm going to speak of here is addressed. Namely, this is the biggest problem, if you're the leader of a war, any territories taken by your allies automatically goes to you, this isn't really a problem until you combine it with another flaw: Any land taken cannot be given to your allies and subjects. What this means is that after Dardania won the war, I owned the land and could not do a thing to resist recieving the ungodly amount of aggressive expansion that resulted from me being unable to return it to my ally, if I was able to do this for the defending side of a civil war, and have it reduce my aggressive expansion, that would be awesome but you cannot return your allies land in peace treaties, nor make them stronger by giving them your conquests. PLEASE DO SOMETHING TO FIX THIS!
3. MEND THE TERRITORY MARKET: For the love of God, I beg you, please consider repairing and overhauling the "sell territory" and "sell province" function, I am just utterly lose on how to sell a province, and actually get money for it! Like, it always starts at zero, I accepted that much, and there are buttons on either side to add and subtract 100 money, cool, but the buttons don't function! No matter what I do, how many provinces I add to the list, the price always remains at zero and it cannot go any higher or lower! It doesn't make sense! It's supposed to be the "SELL PROVINCE/TERRITORY" function, not donate province! This system is utterly broken, and it needs an upgrade, more-over, it also needs expansion, for I see no option to BUY provinces/territories either! And to that matter: why are nations utterly unwilling to buy back their own homeland from you? I mean come on! that is literally their capital city! Their home! The fact that they apparently have zero attachment to it is so stupid, why are the AI nations completely unwilling to buy back their own territories for any amount more than zero?!
4. POLISH THE PRISONER SYSTEM: One of the more annoying things I encounter is that when I win a war, and take the land of the enemy nation that say, took my admiral prisoner, despite him no longer being a prisoner because his captors no longer exist, the notification keeps coming on that I have a prisoner abroad. This is annoying, but I think there should be another option for prisoners: "Post Ransom." In simplest terms, if the prisoner's home nation still exists, this would be the ability to demand a ransom from said nation either during or after you're at war with them. Next up, a peace demand should be for them to release your prisoners, or send them one of your people as a hostage to sweeten that peace deal with Rome you so desperately need, so I think important prisoners should count towards war score. And lastly, this final action would tie in with the proposed espionage overhaul in that one of the things you can get a spy to do is to rescue your imprisoned character abroad which has a chance to spawn a unique spy trait that has positive effects.
5. SMOOTH THE SIEGES: Sieges are great in game, however, besieged fortresses are a little too weak, you can't lose them! I think the scale should be tipped a tiny bit in the defender's favor. If the besieged faction owns lands adjacent to their fortress, then those lands would increase the defender's odds, but if the besiegers have land adjacent to them, and it gets occupied, then their attrition rate should increase due to their supply lines being cut off, and the besieged fortress having ships sailing in the ocean beyond it would straight up give positive dice rolls due to the ships being able to supply the defenders: "Reinforcements." "Resupply" "civilians evacuated." Of course none of these bonuses should be too strong, I don't want fortresses to be impenetrable without needing to build 6 of them in the same location, so do what you want with these ideas, lol!
6. REDUCE CERTAIN SCHEME'S MONEY COSTS TO REASONABLE LEVELS: Like, realistically, it should absolutely not cost two hundred money to "seek treatment," that price is merciless and this action is the worst offender, I think "Seek Treatment" should cost 30, 60 at most. There are other examples but that one comes to mind the most.

You have several points for sure, but aside from this being very surely way outside the scope for 2.04 (and further development isn't going to happen) - are you playing vanilla or with mods? AFAIK, selling entire provinces isn't something the main game has, but a mod-added functionality.

 

[Lord Shrapnaks]

You have several points for sure, but aside from this being very surely way outside the scope for 2.04 (and further development isn't going to happen) - are you playing vanilla or with mods? AFAIK, selling entire provinces isn't something the main game has, but a mod-added functionality.

Mods, I sort of figured it was a necessity with a game like this. Though one can hope that at least some of this gets implemented.

 

[Lord Shrapnaks]

One thing I want to get implemented no matter what is that whenever a man marries into the royal family, there is automatically an event where you can choose to bring the man into your family fully, earning loyalty with him, or marry your girl off to the groom, giving her to his family and earning a smaller amount of loyalty with all of them. And if the man refuses to join your family, an option will then trigger that will allow you to accept the marriage or call it off.