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CK2 Dev Diary #104 - Forging a Bloodline

Greetings.

Before we jump into the dev diary proper we have an exciting announcement. Pagan Fury the official band of Crusader Kings have released their first single that can be found below! Have a listen, let us know what you think and make sure to follow the band on spotify to find out what is coming next.

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We have already covered the topic of Bloodlines, and more specifically historical Bloodlines, in a past Dev Diary, yet marrying into a famous family is not the only way to gain a Bloodline in Holy Fury.

There are quite a few custom Bloodlines that you can found with your own ruler by several different means. Some can be gained through special actions, such as by building a Legend as a Warrior Lodge Hero, others can be unlocked by performing impressive feats, such as being an extraordinarily dedicated Viking raider or restoring Israel.

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Finally, if your ruler has very high Prestige (5000 points or higher) and is Duke-tier or above, you will have access to the new Forge Bloodline ambition.

By picking this ambition you will be provided with several paths to create your own custom Bloodline, tailoring it to whichever kind of ruler you wish to be remembered as.

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Each path will lead you to unlock a different bloodline, each coming in different variants (for example pursuing the Murder path will lead you to gain one of four different Murder-related Bloodlines). Additionally, if you pursue more than a single path at the same time, you have a chance of unlocking a hybridized Bloodline, with its own unique perks.

And finally, if you take too long to complete any of the initial paths, having the ambition will trigger a special event chain that will allow you to invest resources and select from yet another pool of potential bloodlines, whose pick will be determined by the choices that you make during the event chain itself.

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Some of these Bloodlines grant a static bonus, decreasing the chance of vassals joining factions against you, increasing your plot power, or unlocking special buildings for your realms, others grant more dynamic perks, such as special events to facilitate murder or decisions to meddle in your relatives’ private affairs.

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This is it for now, though there's still going to be some news coming today. Do not forget to tune in for our very special stream at 17:00 CEST (https://www.twitch.tv/paradoxinteractive).
 
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Is anyone else concerned that the -100 to 100 opinion range is insufficient to handle the addition of bloodline on top of all the other opinion boosts? I have seen a large number of +5's to general, vassal and dynasty opinion etc in the screenshots shown so far.

I have seen this problem in multiple mods adding extra traits or other bonuses where it just because to easy to stack passive opinion bonuses and you can get away with ridiculous thing. Really they could do with maybe changing it to -1000 to +1000 or higher to allow more granularity.
 
if you take too long to complete any of the initial paths

How long? Does it just has a long mean_time_to_happen?
And what if I am aiming for "Rule at peace for 30 years"?
 
Is anyone else concerned that the -100 to 100 opinion range is insufficient to handle the addition of bloodline on top of all the other opinion boosts? I have seen a large number of +5's to general, vassal and dynasty opinion etc in the screenshots shown so far.

I have seen this problem in multiple mods adding extra traits or other bonuses where it just because to easy to stack passive opinion bonuses and you can get away with ridiculous thing. Really they could do with maybe changing it to -1000 to +1000 or higher to allow more granularity.

I think 1000 is a bit big. 200 or 150 is a bit more reasonable
 
How long? Does it just has a long mean_time_to_happen?
And what if I am aiming for "Rule at peace for 30 years"?
It is an event fired with a delay after you pick the ambition. It's not necessary to go through it, though, you can just dismiss it if you wish to pursue another path.
 
Can special bloodlines be gained even after founding a bloodline?

Eg: I'm aiming to restore Rome. I found a bloodline meanwhile via ambition. If my great grandkids manage to form Rome, would they get the new bloodline additionally? Or the 'slot' has been used?
 
Can special bloodlines be gained even after founding a bloodline?

Eg: I'm aiming to restore Rome. I found a bloodline meanwhile via ambition. If my great grandkids manage to form Rome, would they get the new bloodline additionally? Or the 'slot' has been used?
As far as I can tell, you can only forge a bloodline if you don't already hold a forged bloodline, but there aren't any other restrictions on gaining bloodlines other than that it's intrinsically quite difficult.
 
Can the founder of a forged bloidline also be eligible for Sainthood, pious conditions being met of course?
Yes, Sainthood is a separate kind of Bloodline.

Can special bloodlines be gained even after founding a bloodline?

Eg: I'm aiming to restore Rome. I found a bloodline meanwhile via ambition. If my great grandkids manage to form Rome, would they get the new bloodline additionally? Or the 'slot' has been used?
It depends; in your specific case, they should still get the new Roman Bloodline, because we are talking about a very special event. They will not be able to create any bloodline related to the Forge Bloodline ambition.
 
you caracters may have more than one bloodline?
 
Is there an expiration date on the Bloodlines, say after 200 years they no longer stay valid or lose a huge part of their benefits? Or is a limitation to how long it can pass through female descendants, before it is redeemed as too thinned out, to have an effect?

Otherwise, I would imagine the world would be full of descendants of the same bloodlines within too long...
 
Can modders use bloodlines to have permanent claims to certain titles?
It should be possible to mod something like this, yes.
Do the cities built from converting to feudal or republic from tribal count as building cities for the purpose of the forging of a bloodline?
If I recall correctly, it only counts when you successfully build a new holding, not when converting an existing one.