CK2 Dev Diary #112 - Wonderful News

[King_of_Spain]

If we’re listing stuff to be considered for inclusion at different start dates, then definitely Qutb Minar and the minaret of Jam should be there. Kailasa temple, too.

 

[MonzUn]

Will they be in the province view?

Wonders will at least be accessible in the province view and we have some plans on making them visible and using them as a bit of visual candy in the province view to make the provinces that have wonders feel more special. Plans are just plans until they make it in though!

 

[Tuscany]

I want to build a great palace.
I've united Arabia, Cumania and Persia, and have tens of thousands of gold.
And my seat of power is something called Keep VI.
How lame is that?
I want something beautiful and extraordinary.
Can I have it?

Palaces are likely going in, some of these we might need to cut but currently we plan on having them.

 

[Caspian Mortis]

Pyramids? Kemet expansion confirmed?

Also, Egyptian pyramids were actually white (not brownish) when they were constructed, the white limestone crumbled slowly away and was used for other construction projects over time.

If we can build pyramids, they should at least look historically accurate.

 

[Tuscany]

Pyramids? Kemet expansion confirmed?

Also, Egyptian pyramids were actually white (not brownish) when they were constructed, the white limestone crumbled slowly away and was used for other construction projects over time.

If we can build pyramids, they should at least look historically accurate.

We're keeping this in mind

 

[JohnnyDepressio]

So do we get a new 3000 bc startdate or are the Pyramids already build at game start?

 

[ruzen]

I really much hope not all wonders give some modifier bonuses but adding different types of gameplay features as well.
E.G.

• Increasing the max province prosperity level to 4.
• Adding another reformation slot.
• Creating a location to pilgrimage. etc..

 

[pacja]

Adding canals is possible, however changing the map after the game has started is pretty difficult, so not sure we would do them justice.

Well, the "ancient Suez" was the less fascinating one anyway, bringing back to life deserted ruins is much more exciting. Thanks for your answer, I'm looking forward for this very interesting feature, hope these legendary deeds will be tied to special titles too.

 

[Tuscany]

So do we get a new 3000 bc startdate ore are the Pyramids already buld at game start?

3000 BC is not currently planned.

 

[Bearjuden]

We've been thinking about this but unsure what it will do, maybe unlock a special upgrade?

I'm not 100% sure, really. Possible ideas occur to me as:

• Event to all members of that religion celebrating the accomplishment
• Small boost to moral authority/large boost to piety
• More events for pilgrimages to that site (including enabling pilgrimages to that site if you were not previously able to), I don't remember if non-christians can do pilgrimages though

I'm not sure I've got something really good and fitting though, so I'll keep thinking on it. I mostly had down the idea that it should be acknowledged. There's also the issue that if you do this, there should probably be special acknowledgement if the Pope controls a cathedral, or any of his corollaries.

What will the format of the wonder be in the UI? It'll have it's own UI space I assume, like how forts are not buildings in the regular build menu?

 

[Jia Xu]

How about being able to spend a huge amount of grace to get the Chinese emperor to send an engineer who will help you construct a special Chinese looking wonder?

 

[fr-rein]

Will Jerusalem, Mecca, Rome and such as sites become "wonders" and receive events (and income) related to pilgrimage? At least potentially!
It could also be used for Holy Sites and religion authority too.

 

[alexlock]

Does that mean, that some kind of holdings economy rework is on the way, since it's pretty bland now?

 

[Andrzej I]

3000 BC is not currently planned.

Too busy working on Vicky 3 to plan the 3000 BC start date? Don't worry, you don't have to confirm

 

[Kumicho]

Hey, if we're talking about new buildings and upgrades, can we PLEASE have some upgrades to our current Forts? During the viking raids they were built to actually protect the wealth of the counties from raiders, but in-game they do virtually nothing to protect wealth since most of it is still unprotected. Upgrading Forts to protect all of the wealth of a county would be a huge benefit for anyone ruling along the English channel.

 

[Tuscany]

I really much hope not all wonders give some modifier bonuses but adding different types of gameplay features as well.
E.G.

• Increasing the max province prosperity level to 4.
• Adding another reformation slot.
• Creating a location to pilgrimage. etc..

I'll give you an example of one upgrade bonus:
Sacrificial Altar: Gives you an extra option when sacrificing characters.

 

[Tuscany]

How about being able to spend a huge amount of grace to get the Chinese emperor to send an engineer who will help you construct a special Chinese looking wonder?

Already possible to request Chinese Engineers, maybe this is a requirement for some upgrades.

 

[Tuscany]

Does that mean, that some kind of holdings economy rework is on the way, since it's pretty bland now?

We're not reworking holdings, the wonders will exist in their own space and each province will have space for one wonder.

 

[Andrzej I]

We're not reworking holdings, the wonders will exist in their own space and each province will have space for one wonder.

Curious how that will work with Constantinople, though, since you have the Hagia Sophia... and there has been talk about having the Theodosian Walls as another 'wonder' as well.

 

[ruzen]

I'll give you an example of one upgrade bonus:
Sacrificial Altar: Gives you an extra option when sacrificing characters.

Very intriguing.