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CK2 Dev Diary #63: In the Emperor's Good Graces

Greetings!

Today I would like to talk to you about some of the ways you can gain the Grace of the Emperor, and ways in which you can use it to your advantage! To interact with China you must be within their diplomatic range - which extends throughout the entire Silk Road, and through the influence of the Western Protectorate and any Tributaries China might have. When you are within diplomatic range you have the options to Pay Tribute and Ask for Boons.

Paying Tribute to the Emperor will get you in their good Graces, giving you the option of asking for Boons. While the first thing that comes to mind would be to become an actual Tributary State to China, there are more ways to earn Grace. Of course, being a Tributary State is one of the most effective ways to earn the Emperors good Grace - having the Emperor like you more for each month you stay a Tributary State - though you have to give up a significant portion of your Wealth and Levy Regain rate. As China prefers their Tributaries to keep paying Tribute to them, they are willing to defend their Tributaries from outside threats - Tributary States will have the option of summoning a regiment of Chinese forces when they are under attack. When playing as a small realm in the Tarim Basin, for example, it is very prudent to become a Chinese Tributary as they will help you fend off ravenous Nomads and expansionist Tibetans alike.
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Not everyone will have the opportunity (or want to give up their sovereignty) to become a Tributary State though, in that case there are other things you can do to earn the Emperor’s good Grace. The two most common things the Emperor requires are more Concubines for the harem and more Eunuchs for the administration. If you are able to find characters that suit either role, you will be able to send them off as Tribute. These characters will most often have to be your close relatives, making the choice whether to send them away or not more tactical (perhaps you’d rather keep your daughter for forming a local alliance, or keep your third son as a backup in case your first two sons bite the dust). Note that you won’t be able to send off characters that stand to inherit titles. The selection of a suitable character is made by executing a new type of ‘third party character’ decision, as can be seen in this screenshot:
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There are also other things you can do to gain the Grace of the Emperor, I won’t go into too much detail, but they include things such as: Offering a Court Physician when China is suffering a Plague, sending Relief while China is suffering a Famine, sending Artifacts or Gold, and more.

Any Grace you’ve earned will persist as long as the same Dynasty sits on the throne in China - Civil Wars and Invasions might result in a new Dynasty taking the Dragon Throne, making you lose any grace you’ve accumulated. Fortunately the Dynasty changes seldomly, and you get ample warning before it happens (so that you get a chance to leverage the Grace you’ve accumulated with the current Dynasty).

Emperors, like most characters in CK2, have their own personalities. This is characterized through the Emperor’s likes and dislikes - if the Emperor favors Buddhists you will find it more rewarding to both be a Buddhist yourself, and to send the Emperor Buddhists as tribute. The opposite is true for being disliked by the Emperor - with the additional threat that they might, just might, treat you as a priority target should they become expansionist!

Now on to using Grace - if you’ve sent enough Tribute to the Emperor you will be able to request Boons. Boons are generally very powerful, and come in many flavors - I won’t go through all of them in this DD, but here are a select few:

Request Peace Deal - The most basic of all Boons, having an active Peace Deal will prevent China from ever targeting you with wars. It is very cheap to get one and, unless you’re taking a risk by saving up for something costly, you should usually be able to afford one. A Peace Deal lasts for a long time, and also persists through multiple characters should the one who requested it die. In addition to preventing the wrath of China, it also gives quite a bit of passive prestige. Do note that if China is in an Expansionist phase they might not want to hand out any Peace Deals, so get them while you can…

Request Strategist - This Boon has a character trained in Chinese Strategy join your court. This character is both a competent commander by himself, but will given time also train your existing commanders in the art of Chinese warfare. This is represented by special Commander Traits with very powerful bonuses.

Request Master Engineer - This Boon has a masterful Chinese Engineer join your court. For as long as this character stays employed, he will improve your demesne with powerful province modifiers - Blast Furnaces, Paper Mills, Fireworks Guilds and other wondrous things. These modifiers tend to help you advance in Military and Economic technology.

Request Imperial Marriage - The Emperor has many daughters (and in the case of female rulers, cousins and kinsmen) and if you stand in their good Graces you might be allowed to have you or one of your children marry one of them! Such a marriage is not only very prestigious, because a princess doesn’t leave China alone - along with her she will bring a regiment of Honor Guards that you can call upon at will. Unlike the troops you can call upon from being a Chinese Tributary State these Honor Guards can also be used in offensive wars - giving you an edge in warfare. An Imperial Marriage also sets a Peace Deal in place.
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Request Invasion - This is the most costly Boon of them all, and will be a challenge just to gain enough Grace for - if there is a realm that has grown too large and powerful for their own good, you can suggest that China invades them with the sole purpose of dismantling their realm. Of course, it might not be very likely that China would succeed in taking down a distant Empire (i.e. Byzantium) and there is no absolute guarantee that they will win regardless. If you are independent you can choose to join in the war yourself, which is especially useful if you really want the war to succeed. Having Peace Deals with China will protect characters from Requested Invasions and normal invasions alike.

There are plenty of other things you can request; Scholar-Bureaucrats, Siege Engineers, Chinese Artifacts, Silk Road Trade Contracts and more - but I won’t go into more detail in this DD!

Finally I’d like to say that many of these features will be controllable by Game Rules. If you want to disable the Diplomatic Range of China and gain Grace as a count in Ireland you will be able to do so - the same if you do not wish to have China launch any invasions, along with many other things. And as always, if you have any ideas/questions/concerns for Game Rules relating to the features presented in the DD, feel free to suggest them here!
 
I have to say I was quite sceptical of adding China at the start, but this seems to be a great feature so far. Also amazing is that we can use it to create offmap empires without the DLC, so many modding possibilities! I imagine the favours are fully moddable as well?
 
Oh shoot! This is awesome! When I saw that all you need to do to is be on the Silk Road my first thought is "Ooo! This definitely could make a Jerusalem playthrough easier." My favorite and most commonly played start is as Guy de Lusignan in the 3rd Crusade start (1187 I believe is the date). And, as all you need to do to be within diplomatic range of China is holy war the Hashashins for Archa (the CB says Antioch), you should have full access to the Chinese emperor. I, for example, was thinking about how you could, with an army of your levies, retinues, Templars, Hospitalliers, and Chinese Honor Guards as well as any mercs you need/can afford, you can kick the Ayyubid's teeth in. I also want to be a totally charismatic ruler of diplomacy - having both the Pope in my pocket as well as the good graces of the Chinese emperor.

One question I have though is how big and/or strong is this regiment of Chinese troops one can raise if they are a tributary? Because another idea I had is, as the province of Antioch is also on the silk road, maybe becoming a tributary of China as the Principality of Antioch (starting in 1187 of course) to deter the Ayyubids from invading. Maybe even throw in a few really powerful alliances and you're in a good spot for defense.
 
I definitely have to question China's ability to project power into the Levant in this time period.

Assuming there hasn't already been a mass expansion of the Governorate and the tributaries, Antioch and Byzantium's relations with China should be more-or-less limited to sending courtiers and gifts eastward and getting the same westward. A tributary Antioch shouldn't be able to summon an effective anti-Ayyubid army from China. That's what plundering the Jews is for!
 
Erm, since when did the Chinese Emperor collect foreign nobles as imperial eunuchs? Defeated families maybe, peasant eunuchs demanded as tribute maybe, but foreign nobles? As a diplomatic act? WTF?

I mean I can understand if an Emperor specifically fancies your 3rd son as a "boy toy", but those are rare cases. What use would your random relative serve as a eunuch that a random peasant eunuch can't?

Or... is this Paradox's attempt to "Politically Correct" the concubines thing so it doesn't appear sexist... hmm... (again, did nobles really send their daughters to serve as the Emperor's concubines?)
right, this part is more believable to be honest. Nobles-as-eununchs though, I don't know. Considering that by the Ming dynasty anyone who castrates himself is considered "unfilial to his family" and not to be employed in the Imperial Court, as well as subject to punishment*, I find it very hard to believe the Emperor, of all people, would accept the use of foreign nobles as eunuchs. It would spark off a frenzy of lowborn peasants castrating themselves in hopes of serving in the Imperial palace.

*Source: The Eunuchs in the Ming Dynasty
By Shih-shan Henry Tsai

Of course, I could be wrong, and Ming is after CK2 events anyway. But I'm smelling a bit of Political-Correctness in this one...
What the hell? Why are people downvoting these?
From the Yuan to Qing dynasties emperors of China did have foreign "nobles" as concubines, but this was mainly due to influence from nomadic traditions, and was limited to certain tributary states/peoples like the Uyghurs or Koreans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imperial_Chinese_harem_system

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fragrant_Concubine
Concubines are not eunuchs.
 
Also incidentally Tocharians are not a Iranian people, unlike Sogdians and Saka. They are an Indo-European people, but they have just been lumped into the Iranian culture group in game.

Weren't they Indo-Europeans initially but after such a long period of time they became more "Iranian" due to influence of other cultures around
 
IIRC some Persian Zoroastrian rulers really disliked impostors, maybe Mazdan characters who make an imperial marriage should have a chance to get special events where they discover their heqin isn't a "real" princess and have to make a hard choice.
Heqin princesses are generally the real deal after the Han Dynasty in the sense that they are part of the imperial family,but often a cousin or niece of the emperor(possibly even a distant one) rather than his own daughter or sister.
 
Great work with these interactions around China! Looks like there will be a lot to do and that it is well integrated into the rest of the game, even though it is off-map.
 
I have to say I was quite sceptical of adding China at the start, but this seems to be a great feature so far. Also amazing is that we can use it to create offmap empires without the DLC, so many modding possibilities! I imagine the favours are fully moddable as well?
If by favours you mean the tribute and boons, then yes they are entirely open to modding as well.
 
Of course, I could be wrong, and Ming is after CK2 events anyway. But I'm smelling a bit of Political-Correctness in this one...

Political correctness in a game were you can rape, forcefully take concubines, bannish the Jews from your realm, pillage and burn down the world, worship Satan and sacrifice people in his name...

Why would they be politically correct in this topic out of all the strange things in CK?
 
Political correctness in a game were you can rape, forcefully take concubines, bannish the Jews from your realm, pillage and burn down the world, worship Satan and sacrifice people in his name...

Why would they be politically correct in this topic out of all the strange things in CK?
it was clearly base on game play reason
one can sell their children even when only have sons or daughters
but anti politically correct people see politically correctness in everything
 
Weren't they Indo-Europeans initially but after such a long period of time they became more "Iranian" due to influence of other cultures around

Actually I was more thinking of culture in linguistic terms. It does seem there was influence culturally from Iranian peoples. I assume you realise Iranian languages are Indo-European languages. Just a lack of better terms to distinguish them.

but anti politically correct people see politically correctness in everything

The term PC is the bane of this world. A much abused term. Used to demonise a point of view or person without actually addressing the argument. Not that it doesn't actually describe something. Just it is never used accurately or with much evidence to back it up. I would define it as stating or doing something that maintains or advances an individual or groups position in a society. Like being pro-nazi in Nazi Germany would be the PC thing to do.

But me addressing your comment could seriously make this thread go south. So won't say anything more.
 
Okay, I´m personally not sold, but mostly I am not very interested in the East, so I´m happy that for the whole "Chinese Faction" finally get what they were pleading for so long. When we get somewhat similar mechanics for the pope however, we are golden!
 
Do officials in the Chinese Govt get a trait like Muslims who have memorized the Quran do, with their Four Books of Confucianism?
Actually, it appears that the Chinese scholar-bureaucrats looked down on people who get their jobs just because they can recite books, as seen in the numerous attempts to revise the system to include more practical subjects. Hence I don't think we need a trait for that.

Also, rather ironically, the Four Books only became the center of the Imperial Examination when it was revived during the late Yuan Dynasty.